Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays
I hope to experience uplifting feeling to see the pouring of common grief for the trauma experienced by four children in the age group of two to nine. The youngest was Vipin Kumar, 2, while the other three are Kajal, 4, Ishant, 6 and Sheetal, 9. I hope to see show of shared reverence, and joining of hands for prayers at this sad occasion of shahadat of Shantic milkman, Hindu rikshawala, Havildar Vijay Kumar and a JCO Naik Subedar V V K Paarkashan.
I hope your Kavi hearts bleed for these lives cut short so early. Your heart felt poems are most welcome. This will be the best sraddhanjali you might give to Ahmed Faraz. His soul will have SadGati because of your these acts. But you should not stop here, you could fund education of dhoodhwala and rikshawwalas children's education. That would be better living poem.
Posted by
guru
Aug 27, 2008 01:56 pm
First good news from Jammu: Security forces have killed all the three militants who were holding three woman and four children hostage in Jammu's Chinore area.I hope to experience uplifting feeling to see the pouring of common grief for the trauma experienced by four children in the age group of two to nine. The youngest was Vipin Kumar, 2, while the other three are Kajal, 4, Ishant, 6 and Sheetal, 9. I hope to see show of shared reverence, and joining of hands for prayers at this sad occasion of shahadat of Shantic milkman, Hindu rikshawala, Havildar Vijay Kumar and a JCO Naik Subedar V V K Paarkashan.
I hope your Kavi hearts bleed for these lives cut short so early. Your heart felt poems are most welcome. This will be the best sraddhanjali you might give to Ahmed Faraz. His soul will have SadGati because of your these acts. But you should not stop here, you could fund education of dhoodhwala and rikshawwalas children's education. That would be better living poem.
Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays
"Behind most religious conflicts is the fight for control over resources. Islam took control over the southern Arabian peninsula because it allowed one Arab group to defeat the Jewish kingdoms in the Yemen. Religion is nothing but the tool of control.
The Orthodox and Catholic supposedly split over three words in the creed "and the Son". The split was really controlling the wealth of the Church and maintaining political control over religion."
Let's get rid of these legions and be spiritual.
Posted by
guru
Aug 27, 2008 12:35 pm
Nasaband,"Behind most religious conflicts is the fight for control over resources. Islam took control over the southern Arabian peninsula because it allowed one Arab group to defeat the Jewish kingdoms in the Yemen. Religion is nothing but the tool of control.
The Orthodox and Catholic supposedly split over three words in the creed "and the Son". The split was really controlling the wealth of the Church and maintaining political control over religion."
Let's get rid of these legions and be spiritual.
Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays
In my hurried glance at Pt. mandarji posts I found a gem
""We continue to know more and more about modern society, but we find the centers of political initiative less and less accessible. This generates a personal malady which is particularly acute in the intellectual who has labored under the illusion that his thinking makes a difference. In the world of today the more his knowledge of affairs grows, the less effective the impact of his thinking seems to become ... He feels helpless in the fundamental sense that he cannot control what he is able to foresee."
(The Powerless People, by C. Wright Mills, Politics, April, 1944)"
First, did he acquire/digest the knowledge? He thought he possesses the knowledge because he can express in words. He could recite the words. But his life did not express it as Mahatma Gandhi or Phule's did. Similarly so called poets thought penning and publishing their emotions is end all. This is the problem when we judge people by their words. I would judge Guru Govind Singhji's poetry by how it built Khalasa and organization to raise human consciousness and protect Dharma.
Emotion is a very tiny part of mind. I have not read any poem of Faraz but from Nasaband's quote it seems he is yet another hukka-pani Kotha pimp poet talking about girl's. Shantic Arabic imperialism worked through this gudgudi culture. The local kshatriyas esp Rajputs were addicted to this gudgudi Sheb Bibi and Gulam culture utterly exploitive culture. It also emasculated the locals. Just as British sold and made Chines addicted to Ganja, Shantic exploitive folks used this mushayara type culture. At best it produced Bahadur Shah Zafar type nimcompoop so called poets who suffered from heavy melancholy. Indian Mollywood wasted two generations of Indian youth by this G..giri of melancholic songs. There were hardly songs such as Chodo Kal Ki Bante.
Since the words started getting printed a weird thing happened. Words became very cheap. A class of durbari Gs in the form of Bhaats and Sycophants came on the horizon. .............
I do not have so much time now ....later when time permits.
Those who attended his mushiara or whatever need to be lined up at LOC & Jammu border and made sing his poetry. Let's see if the Jihadis can be stopped. This way atleast poor innocent rikshawwala and helpless kids can be saved.
Yes I would like Arabic imperialism aka Islam needs to vanish, so also Paulism (look at what it has done in Orissa). That is why I asked Pt. Mandarji and testicularji to explain the core spirituality of Shant aka Islam.
We should all become spiritual and not re-legion-ous.
Posted by
guru
Aug 27, 2008 11:49 am
ana and nasaband,In my hurried glance at Pt. mandarji posts I found a gem
""We continue to know more and more about modern society, but we find the centers of political initiative less and less accessible. This generates a personal malady which is particularly acute in the intellectual who has labored under the illusion that his thinking makes a difference. In the world of today the more his knowledge of affairs grows, the less effective the impact of his thinking seems to become ... He feels helpless in the fundamental sense that he cannot control what he is able to foresee."
(The Powerless People, by C. Wright Mills, Politics, April, 1944)"
First, did he acquire/digest the knowledge? He thought he possesses the knowledge because he can express in words. He could recite the words. But his life did not express it as Mahatma Gandhi or Phule's did. Similarly so called poets thought penning and publishing their emotions is end all. This is the problem when we judge people by their words. I would judge Guru Govind Singhji's poetry by how it built Khalasa and organization to raise human consciousness and protect Dharma.
Emotion is a very tiny part of mind. I have not read any poem of Faraz but from Nasaband's quote it seems he is yet another hukka-pani Kotha pimp poet talking about girl's. Shantic Arabic imperialism worked through this gudgudi culture. The local kshatriyas esp Rajputs were addicted to this gudgudi Sheb Bibi and Gulam culture utterly exploitive culture. It also emasculated the locals. Just as British sold and made Chines addicted to Ganja, Shantic exploitive folks used this mushayara type culture. At best it produced Bahadur Shah Zafar type nimcompoop so called poets who suffered from heavy melancholy. Indian Mollywood wasted two generations of Indian youth by this G..giri of melancholic songs. There were hardly songs such as Chodo Kal Ki Bante.
Since the words started getting printed a weird thing happened. Words became very cheap. A class of durbari Gs in the form of Bhaats and Sycophants came on the horizon. .............
I do not have so much time now ....later when time permits.
Those who attended his mushiara or whatever need to be lined up at LOC & Jammu border and made sing his poetry. Let's see if the Jihadis can be stopped. This way atleast poor innocent rikshawwala and helpless kids can be saved.
Yes I would like Arabic imperialism aka Islam needs to vanish, so also Paulism (look at what it has done in Orissa). That is why I asked Pt. Mandarji and testicularji to explain the core spirituality of Shant aka Islam.
We should all become spiritual and not re-legion-ous.
Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays
I can go on, but it's kind of too late.
Words which are not matched with action are injurious to oneself and the universe.
These Islamic drunkard and addict Ghalib type so called poets have destroyed real meaning of Kavi.
Sage Walmiki was Kavi, sage Ved Vyas was Kavi, Dnyneshwar Mauli was Kavi, Sant Tukaram and Samarth Ramdas were Kavis.
Rest are just emasculating Hizdas.
Posted by
guru
Aug 27, 2008 02:19 am
Ana,I can go on, but it's kind of too late.
Words which are not matched with action are injurious to oneself and the universe.
These Islamic drunkard and addict Ghalib type so called poets have destroyed real meaning of Kavi.
Sage Walmiki was Kavi, sage Ved Vyas was Kavi, Dnyneshwar Mauli was Kavi, Sant Tukaram and Samarth Ramdas were Kavis.
Rest are just emasculating Hizdas.
Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays
Till Bakiland dumps alien language and shades the Abrahmic coat on the local human spirituality it will not have peace or soulful poetry. The road to human soul is blocked by Abrahm. Real poetry has to be from the bottom of the soul.
Posted by
guru
Aug 27, 2008 02:10 am
Urdoo is an imposed imperialistic language which destroys local language and culture. Give me Sanskrit to solve to Understand Sulbha Sutra, Patanjali Yoga Sutra and Vedic Maths. It will help me in implementing algorithm for square rooting a number efficiently in digital and also biological computers.Till Bakiland dumps alien language and shades the Abrahmic coat on the local human spirituality it will not have peace or soulful poetry. The road to human soul is blocked by Abrahm. Real poetry has to be from the bottom of the soul.
Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays
"it's rather ignorant to write maliciously of a language just because it does not have the letter "p""
We know Bakistan does not have peace because the imposed durbari language does not have letter "p."
Those who attended his mushiara or whatever need to be lined up at LOC & Jammu border and made sing his poetry. Let's see if the Jihadis can be stopped. This way atleast poor innocent rikshawwala and helpless kids can be saved.
These fake poets and the printing industry breeds a class of parasitic Gs who are as much diversion used by the establishment. In Islamic society it's the mo's Islamic pyramid scheme which is establishment. Most of their poetry is emasculating "Khiza Ke Phool Pe Sathi" type girlish stinking farts, which pollutes generations.
Posted by
guru
Aug 27, 2008 02:01 am
Ana,"it's rather ignorant to write maliciously of a language just because it does not have the letter "p""
We know Bakistan does not have peace because the imposed durbari language does not have letter "p."
Those who attended his mushiara or whatever need to be lined up at LOC & Jammu border and made sing his poetry. Let's see if the Jihadis can be stopped. This way atleast poor innocent rikshawwala and helpless kids can be saved.
These fake poets and the printing industry breeds a class of parasitic Gs who are as much diversion used by the establishment. In Islamic society it's the mo's Islamic pyramid scheme which is establishment. Most of their poetry is emasculating "Khiza Ke Phool Pe Sathi" type girlish stinking farts, which pollutes generations.
Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays
"Do you understand what the word exile means"
I understand by example. Dracula was in exile from 31-35, so also BB, AZ, NS, SA etc etc.
"He was imprisoned for what he wrote against the establishment"
Did he write about the plight of innocents in bangladesh or Hindu harris? Did he write about abduction of Hindu Sindhi girls and forced conversion & marriage?
Posted by
guru
Aug 27, 2008 01:43 am
Ana,"Do you understand what the word exile means"
I understand by example. Dracula was in exile from 31-35, so also BB, AZ, NS, SA etc etc.
"He was imprisoned for what he wrote against the establishment"
Did he write about the plight of innocents in bangladesh or Hindu harris? Did he write about abduction of Hindu Sindhi girls and forced conversion & marriage?
Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays
Mulla Omar who lives his words is probably better consciousness than Allaha-Ki-maa type poets.
Tell us more about folks who are building schools, play grounds and temples for Pakistani Hindus who are mostly Harijans.
Posted by
guru
Aug 27, 2008 12:18 am
Most of the literary world is filled with "you scratch my back I scratch yours" types Gs.Mulla Omar who lives his words is probably better consciousness than Allaha-Ki-maa type poets.
Tell us more about folks who are building schools, play grounds and temples for Pakistani Hindus who are mostly Harijans.
Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays
One Kavi Allaha Ki Maa heleped in breaking millions of homes.
The poetic words he uttered were actually not from his soul but it was the Abrahmic ghost which is torturing human mind for last 1700 years.
Kavi (from a root kū "to cry out") is a Sanskrit term for thinker, intelligent man, man of understanding, leader; a wise man, sage, seer, prophet; a singer, bard, poet.
People who have lost their roots, their tongue, and are not in tune with soul's vibrations which occurs by being in tune with the nature around them and by owning the the language of the bhumi, ancestors and local culture,
will utter only words which can turn into poison for them and others. Their words cause more harm. They are never empowering. Their words are enslaving. Urdoo an imposed language can only produce scenes of drunkard Yahaa enjoying singing of Noor Jahan when millions were being killed, lakhs of ma-behene were being raped at the same time in other parts of the country. Show us poems of Allha-Ki Maa type poets penning pain of these unfortunate folks. Most of the urdoo poets could only pen hi.da dance of "Choli Ke Piche Kya Hain" for durbari lifafa or mujara at feudal's kothi.
Last I checked this gentleman also like all Baki leaders lived outside Bakiland. It's hopeless when the PMs, presidents and poets of a land come from outside.
Posted by
guru
Aug 27, 2008 12:08 am
Why casticism of written word?One Kavi Allaha Ki Maa heleped in breaking millions of homes.
The poetic words he uttered were actually not from his soul but it was the Abrahmic ghost which is torturing human mind for last 1700 years.
Kavi (from a root kū "to cry out") is a Sanskrit term for thinker, intelligent man, man of understanding, leader; a wise man, sage, seer, prophet; a singer, bard, poet.
People who have lost their roots, their tongue, and are not in tune with soul's vibrations which occurs by being in tune with the nature around them and by owning the the language of the bhumi, ancestors and local culture,
will utter only words which can turn into poison for them and others. Their words cause more harm. They are never empowering. Their words are enslaving. Urdoo an imposed language can only produce scenes of drunkard Yahaa enjoying singing of Noor Jahan when millions were being killed, lakhs of ma-behene were being raped at the same time in other parts of the country. Show us poems of Allha-Ki Maa type poets penning pain of these unfortunate folks. Most of the urdoo poets could only pen hi.da dance of "Choli Ke Piche Kya Hain" for durbari lifafa or mujara at feudal's kothi.
Last I checked this gentleman also like all Baki leaders lived outside Bakiland. It's hopeless when the PMs, presidents and poets of a land come from outside.
Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays
Separatism is unacceptable
Claude Arpi
In the past fortnight, several senior commentators have decided it is time to accept the separatists' demand for self-determination in the Kashmir Valley. One commentator has written, "As a liberal, I dislike ruling people against their will... Let Kashmiris decide the outcome, not the politicians and Armies of India and Pakistan... The parallels between British rule in India and Indian rule in Kashmir have become too close for my comfort."
Such reasoning is fallacious. To "dislike ruling people against their will" is not reason enough to let parts of India secede. Don't you think that the people of Arunachal Pradesh often feel neglected by the rulers in Delhi who decide their future without consulting them and 'against their will'? Any 'liberal' (if he/she is honest) will apply the same reasoning to the entire North-East. Should these States also secede? In the 1980s, the Khalistanis in Punjab also felt that Delhi was ruling them 'against their will'. Should Punjab have become independent?
As for the 'promised' plebiscite, which is being resurrected by 'liberal' commentators, the UN resolutions of August 1948 and January 1949 were clear and specific. The proposed plebiscite was for all the regions of Jammu & Kashmir. Further it was conditional to the Pakistani troops withdrawing from all the areas it had occupied in the State; and, second, Pakistan withdrawing its tribesmen and nationals not ordinarily resident in these areas from the entire State.
For the UN, there was no question of first changing the demography of the occupied areas. To hold a plebiscite after the Kashmir Valley has been cleansed of its Hindu population will only encourage secessionists and terrorists to use similar tactics in other parts of India.
Another eminent columnist has written, "If you believe in democracy, then giving Kashmiris the right to self-determination is the correct thing to do... This is India's century. We have the world to conquer -- and the means to do it. Kashmir is a 20th century problem. We cannot let it drag us down and bleed us as we assume our rightful place in the world." This merits only one comment: If India is further dismembered, it is doubtful that the 21st century will be India's century. Allowing Kashmiris to secede is certain to become a precedent for others in India to 'democratically' ask for their right to self-determination.
Similar to the position taken by our 'liberals' has been that of the foreign media which has reacted to the recent troubles with its old prediction that 'Kashmir will soon be lost for India". DIE?} Le Monde quotes Ahmed, a young Kashmiri, as saying, "I prefer to die in the streets shouting 'Long Live Free Kashmir' than in an isolated confinement after being tortured (by the Indian Army)." Ahmed's friends, says Le Monde, threw stones at security forces while screaming, "Indians are dogs." Then, referring to Abhinav Bindra's gold medal, Ahmed says, "But it is in Kashmir that Indians are the best shooters."
Le Figaro, in an article headlined "Kashmir bye-bye?", its correspondent spoke of the "beauty of the Valley which nobody questions, though some in India have nonetheless begun to ask themselves if the future of their great democracy is to keep four million Kashmiris against their will. It is a new tune!" The correspondent, however, asked a relevant question: "Why has the Government in New Delhi kept silent and inactive for so long when the tension had already started mounting in July?"
The problem is not only the poor leadership of the rulers in Delhi, though nobody can deny that the present crisis has been created by the inept handling of the situation, but also the wily leadership in the Kashmir Valley.
If one looks at the history of Jammu & Kashmir, one realises that whenever the Valley has been stricken by famine, war or invasion, it was due to the poor leadership and despotism of its kings, sultans and maharajas. The Chinese pilgrim Hsuan-tsang has described Kashmiris thus: "They are volatile and timid; they are good-looking, but deceitful."
The history of Kashmir is a succession of alternating periods when just and fair rulers made the Valley a 'Paradise on Earth' and times when "people were treated as grass", to quote the historian Srivara, one of the authors of Rajatarangini. He describes one of these periods during the 15th century when "accepting bribes was considered by the officers as virtue, oppressing the subjects was regarded as wisdom and the addiction to wine and women was reckoned as happiness".
Take the more recent example of Sheikh Abdullah, described by historian S Gopal as "Nehru's old friend, colleague and blood-brother." Sheikh Abdullah was chosen by Jawaharlal Nehru in January 1948 to plead India's case in the UN. Though a member of the official Indian delegation to Lake Success, Abdullah had a secret meeting with US Ambassador Austin, who reported to the US Secretary of State, "It is possible that the principal purpose of Abdullah's visit was to make clear to US that there is a third alternative, namely independence... He made quite a long and impassioned statement on the subject. He said in effect that whether Kashmir went to Pakistan or India, the other dominion would always be against a solution... (Kashmir) is a rich country. He did not want his people torn by dissension between Pakistan and India. It would be much better if Kashmir were independent and could seek American and British aid for development of the country" Thus was the seed 'azadi' planted by Nehru's 'blood-brother'.
Adlai Stevenson came to Srinagar to meet Abdullah in May 1953. The creation of an independent 'Sheikdom of Kashmir' was the purpose of the visit. This would perfectly suit American interests by checking the advances of the Chinese in Xinjiang and the Russians in Afghanistan. A 'non-aligned' Nehru could not be considered a reliable ally. At that time, The New York Times published a map hinting at an independent status for the Valley and a few days later, Abdullah asserted in a speech, "It is not necessary that our State should become an appendage of either India or Pakistan."
This habit of saying something one day and doing the opposite the next has been characteristic of most of the leaders of Jammu & Kashmir for the past 60 years. Sheikh Abdullah's grandson, Mr Omar Abdullah, recently said in Parliament, "We fought for our land and will continue to fight for our land till our last breath." This same person shamelessly sides with those who say that Hindus are trying to change the demography of the Kashmir Valley by erecting some temporary structures for pilgrims.
With a vacillating Centre, a weak Governor, a father-and-daughter duo always ready to pull the carpet from under their partner's feet and the secessionists back in the news after several years, the State of Jammu & Kashmir seems doomed. But not if India were to stand firm and resist those who wish to see the country disintegrate.
Posted by
guru
Aug 26, 2008 10:51 pm
I would trust this IAS qualified Tibetan/Buddhist more:Separatism is unacceptable
Claude Arpi
In the past fortnight, several senior commentators have decided it is time to accept the separatists' demand for self-determination in the Kashmir Valley. One commentator has written, "As a liberal, I dislike ruling people against their will... Let Kashmiris decide the outcome, not the politicians and Armies of India and Pakistan... The parallels between British rule in India and Indian rule in Kashmir have become too close for my comfort."
Such reasoning is fallacious. To "dislike ruling people against their will" is not reason enough to let parts of India secede. Don't you think that the people of Arunachal Pradesh often feel neglected by the rulers in Delhi who decide their future without consulting them and 'against their will'? Any 'liberal' (if he/she is honest) will apply the same reasoning to the entire North-East. Should these States also secede? In the 1980s, the Khalistanis in Punjab also felt that Delhi was ruling them 'against their will'. Should Punjab have become independent?
As for the 'promised' plebiscite, which is being resurrected by 'liberal' commentators, the UN resolutions of August 1948 and January 1949 were clear and specific. The proposed plebiscite was for all the regions of Jammu & Kashmir. Further it was conditional to the Pakistani troops withdrawing from all the areas it had occupied in the State; and, second, Pakistan withdrawing its tribesmen and nationals not ordinarily resident in these areas from the entire State.
For the UN, there was no question of first changing the demography of the occupied areas. To hold a plebiscite after the Kashmir Valley has been cleansed of its Hindu population will only encourage secessionists and terrorists to use similar tactics in other parts of India.
Another eminent columnist has written, "If you believe in democracy, then giving Kashmiris the right to self-determination is the correct thing to do... This is India's century. We have the world to conquer -- and the means to do it. Kashmir is a 20th century problem. We cannot let it drag us down and bleed us as we assume our rightful place in the world." This merits only one comment: If India is further dismembered, it is doubtful that the 21st century will be India's century. Allowing Kashmiris to secede is certain to become a precedent for others in India to 'democratically' ask for their right to self-determination.
Similar to the position taken by our 'liberals' has been that of the foreign media which has reacted to the recent troubles with its old prediction that 'Kashmir will soon be lost for India". DIE?} Le Monde quotes Ahmed, a young Kashmiri, as saying, "I prefer to die in the streets shouting 'Long Live Free Kashmir' than in an isolated confinement after being tortured (by the Indian Army)." Ahmed's friends, says Le Monde, threw stones at security forces while screaming, "Indians are dogs." Then, referring to Abhinav Bindra's gold medal, Ahmed says, "But it is in Kashmir that Indians are the best shooters."
Le Figaro, in an article headlined "Kashmir bye-bye?", its correspondent spoke of the "beauty of the Valley which nobody questions, though some in India have nonetheless begun to ask themselves if the future of their great democracy is to keep four million Kashmiris against their will. It is a new tune!" The correspondent, however, asked a relevant question: "Why has the Government in New Delhi kept silent and inactive for so long when the tension had already started mounting in July?"
The problem is not only the poor leadership of the rulers in Delhi, though nobody can deny that the present crisis has been created by the inept handling of the situation, but also the wily leadership in the Kashmir Valley.
If one looks at the history of Jammu & Kashmir, one realises that whenever the Valley has been stricken by famine, war or invasion, it was due to the poor leadership and despotism of its kings, sultans and maharajas. The Chinese pilgrim Hsuan-tsang has described Kashmiris thus: "They are volatile and timid; they are good-looking, but deceitful."
The history of Kashmir is a succession of alternating periods when just and fair rulers made the Valley a 'Paradise on Earth' and times when "people were treated as grass", to quote the historian Srivara, one of the authors of Rajatarangini. He describes one of these periods during the 15th century when "accepting bribes was considered by the officers as virtue, oppressing the subjects was regarded as wisdom and the addiction to wine and women was reckoned as happiness".
Take the more recent example of Sheikh Abdullah, described by historian S Gopal as "Nehru's old friend, colleague and blood-brother." Sheikh Abdullah was chosen by Jawaharlal Nehru in January 1948 to plead India's case in the UN. Though a member of the official Indian delegation to Lake Success, Abdullah had a secret meeting with US Ambassador Austin, who reported to the US Secretary of State, "It is possible that the principal purpose of Abdullah's visit was to make clear to US that there is a third alternative, namely independence... He made quite a long and impassioned statement on the subject. He said in effect that whether Kashmir went to Pakistan or India, the other dominion would always be against a solution... (Kashmir) is a rich country. He did not want his people torn by dissension between Pakistan and India. It would be much better if Kashmir were independent and could seek American and British aid for development of the country" Thus was the seed 'azadi' planted by Nehru's 'blood-brother'.
Adlai Stevenson came to Srinagar to meet Abdullah in May 1953. The creation of an independent 'Sheikdom of Kashmir' was the purpose of the visit. This would perfectly suit American interests by checking the advances of the Chinese in Xinjiang and the Russians in Afghanistan. A 'non-aligned' Nehru could not be considered a reliable ally. At that time, The New York Times published a map hinting at an independent status for the Valley and a few days later, Abdullah asserted in a speech, "It is not necessary that our State should become an appendage of either India or Pakistan."
This habit of saying something one day and doing the opposite the next has been characteristic of most of the leaders of Jammu & Kashmir for the past 60 years. Sheikh Abdullah's grandson, Mr Omar Abdullah, recently said in Parliament, "We fought for our land and will continue to fight for our land till our last breath." This same person shamelessly sides with those who say that Hindus are trying to change the demography of the Kashmir Valley by erecting some temporary structures for pilgrims.
With a vacillating Centre, a weak Governor, a father-and-daughter duo always ready to pull the carpet from under their partner's feet and the secessionists back in the news after several years, the State of Jammu & Kashmir seems doomed. But not if India were to stand firm and resist those who wish to see the country disintegrate.
Ahmed Faraz: The Light Stays
These darbari Gs such as tahmed and Pt Mandarji will take you around the world showing and talking Mao, Tao, Lenin's goaty, Sophia Loren's zanty etc etc. If you look little deeper in their ancestry and the reason for conversion of Allah Ki Maaa and dracula you would know how these Gs think. They want phukatka. HKs!
But the poor common Abdul and Salma are not like them. Visit them and their masjids even if they are in Dharavi. Attend their Namazs and Khutba prayers. Take their kids to your Satsangs and discourses of Swamis and saints. Help them in celebrating ShivJayantis. Few months back when on visit to India because of arguments with a bevda daintier-painter I had to visit for 15-20 minutes nearby mosque in a poor neighborhood. Because I only had 15 -20 minutes to make point that you "Arabic Rs" need to come on the street protesting Jaipur bombings and run a blood donation drive,
and since I am not that diplomatic or erudite like you guys in the heat of intensity in Masjid I said Sala Kuraan in my speech. Then one bevada started shouting Touba Touba, then I blurted out Oye Mullaji why do you allow Allah ki G maraowing in this place of worship. That F Allaha is in these kids ..look at those sparky eyes....for Allaha sake dont kill that F allaha with hate for local heroes, culture and Dharma.... you Gs need to own the local culture, language and history. Almost all of the 35-30 men agreed. They took my tel numbers and most of them are dear friends. They want small favors for jobs. Twice I was invited for mutton biryani but when we went my driver and I gave rest to the ladies and took control of cooking to make mast shooji halawa of organic cut wheat, organic gud and pure desi cow ghee which we brought with us. The kids and the folks relished it so much.
anyway ...2 paisa worth. We can save India and make the leading nation which will show the right way to the world by small actions of embracing our poor and fallen.
Posted by
guru
Aug 26, 2008 10:49 pm
Pinkuji, Ladduji, Sanatani & NKG,These darbari Gs such as tahmed and Pt Mandarji will take you around the world showing and talking Mao, Tao, Lenin's goaty, Sophia Loren's zanty etc etc. If you look little deeper in their ancestry and the reason for conversion of Allah Ki Maaa and dracula you would know how these Gs think. They want phukatka. HKs!
But the poor common Abdul and Salma are not like them. Visit them and their masjids even if they are in Dharavi. Attend their Namazs and Khutba prayers. Take their kids to your Satsangs and discourses of Swamis and saints. Help them in celebrating ShivJayantis. Few months back when on visit to India because of arguments with a bevda daintier-painter I had to visit for 15-20 minutes nearby mosque in a poor neighborhood. Because I only had 15 -20 minutes to make point that you "Arabic Rs" need to come on the street protesting Jaipur bombings and run a blood donation drive,
and since I am not that diplomatic or erudite like you guys in the heat of intensity in Masjid I said Sala Kuraan in my speech. Then one bevada started shouting Touba Touba, then I blurted out Oye Mullaji why do you allow Allah ki G maraowing in this place of worship. That F Allaha is in these kids ..look at those sparky eyes....for Allaha sake dont kill that F allaha with hate for local heroes, culture and Dharma.... you Gs need to own the local culture, language and history. Almost all of the 35-30 men agreed. They took my tel numbers and most of them are dear friends. They want small favors for jobs. Twice I was invited for mutton biryani but when we went my driver and I gave rest to the ladies and took control of cooking to make mast shooji halawa of organic cut wheat, organic gud and pure desi cow ghee which we brought with us. The kids and the folks relished it so much.
anyway ...2 paisa worth. We can save India and make the leading nation which will show the right way to the world by small actions of embracing our poor and fallen.
Remembering the Jallianwala Bagh, Gandhi, Churchill and Jinnah
you are right that i learned abuses in childhood. Not from my mother but because to survive in the neighborhood and in the town I had to use abuses and wear a mask of angry demeanor. My father woke up at 4 AM and went to his work returning at 11 PM. My mother was angry mostly because he did not make a dime Haramka as rest of his colleagues. But she also had pride in her husband even though we all suffered. My father grew up in the company of Sane Guruji and other Gandhians. I am probably little wasted unworthy son.
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guru
Aug 25, 2008 09:18 am
tahmed,you are right that i learned abuses in childhood. Not from my mother but because to survive in the neighborhood and in the town I had to use abuses and wear a mask of angry demeanor. My father woke up at 4 AM and went to his work returning at 11 PM. My mother was angry mostly because he did not make a dime Haramka as rest of his colleagues. But she also had pride in her husband even though we all suffered. My father grew up in the company of Sane Guruji and other Gandhians. I am probably little wasted unworthy son.
Remembering the Jallianwala Bagh, Gandhi, Churchill and Jinnah
Mad Sad I aka Pandit Mandar Multankar aka Masadi in Arabic,
Would you please show that the Abrahmic desert LEGION you follow
is NOT local "culture/language/Itihas/pride in ancestors etc" DESTROYING armed legion
TO enslave, rape, murder, and plunder "OTHER" people
by THE NEW IMPROVED biz card which announces THE NEW IMPROVED name
Pandit Mandar Multankar.
If you do this then we will believe all what you say about Shanti aka Islam in Arabic.
Otherwise we know all this is for desi recently converted ga..du singing after drinking Arabic piss:
"Sala Main to Tan Gaya Yeh Book Mera Dheko
Yeh Zoot mera Soono"
Posted by
guru
Aug 25, 2008 07:54 am
Re #106:Mad Sad I aka Pandit Mandar Multankar aka Masadi in Arabic,
Would you please show that the Abrahmic desert LEGION you follow
is NOT local "culture/language/Itihas/pride in ancestors etc" DESTROYING armed legion
TO enslave, rape, murder, and plunder "OTHER" people
by THE NEW IMPROVED biz card which announces THE NEW IMPROVED name
Pandit Mandar Multankar.
If you do this then we will believe all what you say about Shanti aka Islam in Arabic.
Otherwise we know all this is for desi recently converted ga..du singing after drinking Arabic piss:
"Sala Main to Tan Gaya Yeh Book Mera Dheko
Yeh Zoot mera Soono"
Remembering the Jallianwala Bagh, Gandhi, Churchill and Jinnah
"Churchill, the British Prime Minister during WW2, one time Chancellor Of The Exchequer, had his views on Arabs, Indians, Aborigines, Red Indians - “I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race has come in and taken their place.“
Churchill similarly had highly enlightened views on Arabs - “The Arabs are a backwards people who eat nothing but Camel dung.”
One of the main causes of deaths was public health. In India, in the early 19th century, an estimated 25 million died due the cholera epidemic - as the colonial Government did not bother (to give them the benefit of any doubt). In Northern Ireland, during the Irish Famine, the then British Prime Minster with held supplies and essential aid from starving Irishmen. In USA, the Government delayed allocations to fight small pox, 20 years after similar actions for the whites. Similarly from the Australian aborigines.
"
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guru
Aug 24, 2008 01:07 pm
have not read the article so do not know what it talks about Church-ill and dracula. Here is Church-ill:"Churchill, the British Prime Minister during WW2, one time Chancellor Of The Exchequer, had his views on Arabs, Indians, Aborigines, Red Indians - “I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race has come in and taken their place.“
Churchill similarly had highly enlightened views on Arabs - “The Arabs are a backwards people who eat nothing but Camel dung.”
One of the main causes of deaths was public health. In India, in the early 19th century, an estimated 25 million died due the cholera epidemic - as the colonial Government did not bother (to give them the benefit of any doubt). In Northern Ireland, during the Irish Famine, the then British Prime Minster with held supplies and essential aid from starving Irishmen. In USA, the Government delayed allocations to fight small pox, 20 years after similar actions for the whites. Similarly from the Australian aborigines.
"
Remembering the Jallianwala Bagh, Gandhi, Churchill and Jinnah
Sulabh Sauchalayas and an improvement over it is being promoted by much despised RSS and ShivSena.
Posted by
guru
Aug 24, 2008 07:53 am
"Lets utilize Ancient Math Skills of your people and build sanitation infrastructure in your neighborhood."Sulabh Sauchalayas and an improvement over it is being promoted by much despised RSS and ShivSena.
Remembering the Jallianwala Bagh, Gandhi, Churchill and Jinnah
I believe this is an extremely thoughtful observation. All true.
Posted by
guru
Aug 24, 2008 07:07 am
..."Abrahmic ghost is sitting on world's neck for last 1700 years."I believe this is an extremely thoughtful observation. All true.
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