Aamir - A Film Review #50 dost_mittar

[Yes, islam is a common factor in all these and I have never said that Islam is a religion of peace. In fact, I have said elsewhere that the virus of jihad is present in almost all muslims but it is dormant most of the time unless triggered by a sense of injustice. ]

Yes. And this sense of injustice is imaginary, and in some cases self-fulfilling, and mullah/jihadi types use it to the maximum effect to control their flock as well as to further spread the seeds of this insidious ideology.

Aamir - A Film Review #36 dost_mittar

[Different places, different factors. In India, it was triggered by Ayodhya, etc. Same in Palestine. But in UK and Europe, it is a combination of the sense of injustice fuelled by the concept of Umma. ]

That's right - there's a different explanation for every other country - feudal/communist China, Thailand, Myanmar, Indonesia, Malayasia, India, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Turkey, Greece, Cyprus, Yugoslavia, Russia, Germany, Sweden, France, England, Netherlands, England, USA, Sudan, Somalia and so on....

Everybody else is responsible. And the common thread of Islam is just a coincidence that applies in a tangential way only sometimes.

So Islamic anti-hindu activities in India started by Hindus destroying a mosque that was built after destroying a temple to one of their most revered religious icons (though not killing any Muslims). Hmmm.... Now where did I read that Muslims have been butchering hindus and destroying their temples for many centuries? Must be something I smoked.

Muslim Ghettoisation And the most likely origin of the jalebi is in India, in Punjab.

Muslim Ghettoisation #329 dost_mittar

[How about the Taj Mahal, Ghazal, Urdu, Qawaali, Kurta Pajamas, tandoori cooking, Jalebi. Do you want more?]

No, we don't want more of these wonderful inventions/contributions.

The Taj Mahal was built on the misery of thousands of Hindus, using indigenous materials and labour.

Ghazals oroginated as a means for seducing (and later sodomizing) little boys - read up on the history of Ghazal.

Urdu is a bastardized language that is grammatically Sanskrit-derived, with foreign words thrown in.

Tandoor: from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tandoori

"The tandoor is also known by another name of 'Bhatti' in India. The Bhatti tribe of the Thar Desert of Northwestern India and Eastern Pakistan developed the Bhatti in their desert abode, and thus it gained the name of Bhatti. It is thought to have travelled to Central Asia and the Middle East (from India) along with the Roma, who originated amongst the Thar Desert tribes."

Jalebi is just ONE of millions of Indian sweets.

And yes, we could do without ALL of those, and Islam too.

Muslim Ghettoisation #349 tahmed32

[truth: "do nnot even talk about castes."

exactly!! all ugly truths of india should be carefully ignored. that is truth (as Made in India)]


Caste system in India is NO BUSINESS of Muslims, you bloody idiot. It does not apply to Muslims. And Hindus are not trying to convert Muslims.

So keep your damn trap shut about what is none of your damn business.

Anti-Americanism in Pakistan and the Taliban Menace #39 hamidm2

[..... eklavya is a true hindoo nationalist who wants the pakistani people to destroy themselves - that is why he is always encouraging the lunatic fringe of the crazy paki society .... he is like the man who stands on the street encouraging the suicidal fool to jump ......i wouldn't be surprised if he was on thackery's payroll ..... ]

hamidm,

The fringe might be lunatic, but the rest of the society, while not lunatic, is infected with Islam, and acts as the breeders of future lunatics that keep popping up here and there from WITHIN the non-lunatic mainstream.

Therein lies the problem.

Over the centuries some Muslims have struggled to get out of the "system". Maybe Ahmediism is a way out. Or that Persian Bahai thing. While all are equally idiotic, at least these are less violent, and less dangerous alternatives.

Anti-Americanism in Pakistan and the Taliban Menace #38 chaltahai

[he means to say, there are actually minorities in India of note. not a random traffic cop sardar...actually never mind..he is not a traffic cop no longer :) ]

I realize that he is possibly being sarcastic. but my point was that sarcasm is only effective when people get it. If they don't, then what you are saying is being construed as the literal truth - and has the same effect as if you are NOT being sarcastic.

So therefore, he is assisting in propagating a lie. No matter what his motivation might be. He should be smart enough to realize this.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation #936 TOLKININ

[Ajeya your bet is wrong .i just returned back co incidently .]

Let's see if you survive to complete the debate.

[There is religion wise reatriction Can a dalit marry Brahmin?]

You are trying to miss the point. A dalit not being able to marry a brahmin has NOTHING to do with preventing people from leaving a religion. So it is not a relevant comparison. However, if you are a Dalistan.org fanatic, then all roads lead to this argument.

Also, this custom is the same for men AND women. For Muslims it is not. BECAUSE Islam is trying to PREVENT conversion to another religion.

In Hinduism the motivation is something like social injustice WITHIN the religion. In Islam, it is trying to GROW the religion, and PREVENT anyone from leaving the religion.

There lies the difference.

But of course, you'll never get this. Muslims have been brainwashed from birth.

[Can a brahmin woman marry lower caste Man ?]

It is interesting - that as a lower caste man you posed this question instead of "Can a Brahmin man marry a lower-caste woman?". Shows your true Dalistan.org colours.

[If a Hindu male wants to marry Muslim Girl he can in multi cultural country like in India.]

He can, but he will live in constant threat to his life. Because of this ever-present threat from the adherents of the "religion of peace", the Hindu man almost always converts to Islam, in India.

Anti-Americanism in Pakistan and the Taliban Menace #32 Eklavya

[Speaking of minorities, SupersizeMe, ignoring all advese propaganda, Islamic system provides among the best environments for them (not sure which would be better).
If you feel apologetic, you should compare minorities in Pakistan, with say, minorities in India.]

This is why I say that a lot of times, instead of using a clever choice of words to get your point across, you are actually being two-faced.

So tell me, WHY do you think that minorities are better treated in Pakiland as compared to India.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation #931 by Eklavya

And further, the reason I feel optimistic is because of the internet. The nemesis of any kind of totalitarian thought is open discussion and dissent. Totalitarian thought requires "submission" - complete and total obedience. With dissent punished by measures that we have seen for 1400 years. The internet allows for a platform where people can dissect the various evils of Islam without the adherents of this peaceful religion trying to hack them to pieces (the other 80% of the adherents of this peaceful religion usually cheer from the sidelines).

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation #931 by Eklavya

Completely agree. Except that I think (or rather hope) that humanity, or the non-Islamic interpretation of it, will prevail in the end. Maybe I am being irrationally sentimental. It is true that listening to Indians, Americans, Europeans etc. around me, I see little hope of that. But then hope springs eternal in the "human" breast.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation #928 TOLKININ

[DM sb I undersand you point from past .But isnt there is similar restriction among practicing Hindu not be able to marry Any one .]

No there is not. Also, the rules are the same for men and women. In Islam it is different rules for men and women - to prevent anyone from converting OUT of the "religion".

I can bet that at this point of the discussion, like all good muslims, you will quietly disappear, because you realize that are wrong, but as a Muslim, cannot admit it.

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth #52 by pappu

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Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth Ummm...sorry to interrupt this learned conversation amongst Muslims. But there will NEVER be any true democracy in any Islamic-majority country for any length of time.

People who are used to "submitting" can never truly be mentally free.

Thank you.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation re: tahmed's Islamic Defense # 983563

Subject: The Godhra Riots

tahmed: ...two wrongs don't make a right...you hindus are the worst...blah blah blah....

hindu: um..so what about muhammad beheading the 700 civilians?

tahmed: I have a VERY good answer to this question. However, because it's OBVIOUS that you are bigoted, irrational, and have absolutely NO logic, therefore you are not even worth answering......So there!!

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation RE: tahmed32

I cannot find the interact here, but in an earlier interact Tahmed was explaining (as he often does) how Islam was a revolutionary idea of a casteless society yada yada yada...

This is a theme much loved by Islamic apologists all over the world. With the overwhelming preponderance of the evidence weighed against Islam - whether it is muhammad's character, or actual deeds, or whether it is the actual writings of the hadiths and the koran, or whether it is the history of blood and gore and violence right from the time muhammad came into power until the present day, Islamic apologists are always struggling with an impossible task. But with the whole casteless thingy, Islamists feel that they have a winning argument, if not against Christianity or Buddhism etc., then at least against Hinduism.

Alas, here too the Islamists have their work cut out for them. When muhammad was tricking the illiterate bedouins with his "revelations" of recycled Abrahamic mumbo-jumbo, the population of Saudi Arabia was minisclule compared to the size of its huge barren desertlands, and the population was homogeneous. The only differences were of tribes, and religions, with the notable exception of slaves, who were the lowest of the low on the social ladder.

And boy, did mo exploit these differences! There were two kinds of people - us and them. And they were to be treated far worse than the corrupted caste system ever treated the "untouchables". And as for slaves - they were to be raped at will, or sold like cattle - men, women, children - it didn't matter who. And he not only set it down in his manual, he also led by example.

That makes it even more sickening to hear the Islamists tout Islam as a religion of equality.

Your bullshit will not be bought by any intelligent people, tahmed, IF the facts were discussed out in the open, and theworld population was not threated with murder and mayhem by the goons of the "reliogion of peace".

Luckily, the internet has arrived, and this anonymity will allow for the facts to be discussed, and will hopefully eventually lead to the death of the cult of Islam.

Maybe Ahmedism is the option that will enable "Muslims" to escape the curse of muhammad, and start following a more benign "prophet". While it is as much of bullshit as Islam, at least the example of this new "prophet" will be of a less inhuman person.