Deadly Earthquake
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Cadbury
Oct 10, 2005 05:15 am
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Will Pakistanis Listen and Act?
the money is spent on ISLAMIC EDUCATION incase u didn`t get it and JIHAD is not the main subject in it. U might not want ppl to read and learn Bhagwat Geeta but we like our people to learn and read it as much as they can for reasons your faith also appreciates
Posted by
Cadbury
Jul 23, 2005 11:59 am
Re: # 38the money is spent on ISLAMIC EDUCATION incase u didn`t get it and JIHAD is not the main subject in it. U might not want ppl to read and learn Bhagwat Geeta but we like our people to learn and read it as much as they can for reasons your faith also appreciates
Will Pakistanis Listen and Act?
Not All Mullas are fanatics and not all madrasas are terrorist camps just like not all swami`s went to bring down the Babri mosque and not all Hindus (unlike u) beleive in ridiculing other religions
Posted by
Cadbury
Jul 23, 2005 08:03 am
Re: # 19Not All Mullas are fanatics and not all madrasas are terrorist camps just like not all swami`s went to bring down the Babri mosque and not all Hindus (unlike u) beleive in ridiculing other religions
Will Pakistanis Listen and Act?
Is that the best u can do ? no reasons no justifications just hiding behind sarcasm
Posted by
Cadbury
Jul 23, 2005 08:00 am
Re: # 18Is that the best u can do ? no reasons no justifications just hiding behind sarcasm
Will Pakistanis Listen and Act?
Don`t confuse understanding of reasons for becoming a terrorist with empathy for the bombers and NO Koran does not teach us to empathize with such elements either.
We do get profiled like alot of other nationalities so what ? We are people who stand straight in the eye of authority and they have the right to ensure they can protect their land from fanatics but then being searched is better then bowing in front of others like you guys do and strip search tht might just happen to indies not us sweety.
Yes we do stop people when they go against the teachings of Koran and give wrong preceptions and understanding of the most forgiving religion a very good example is the condemnation by Musharraf in the article above just incase you missed it, banning Lashkar - i - Taiba and arrest of the computer geek Mr. Khan to name a few which bought in vital intelligence on future terrorist targets.
Yes, homeland security department is not the place we would call if we want to report a possible bomber as we have our own departments for that incase you have missed Pakistan has given alot of intelligence about possible bombing attacks in US and UK through various means.
Like you i can go on and on but then did u really read what i wrote i guess not or maybe u didn`t let it sink in hiding behind your shell of preceptions about muslims created by your Saffron Brigade.
And no we don`t just pray to Allah to stop the suicide bombers and the Hindis like yourself from going about your daily business of defaming our religion and country but we do catch them (like we did to several Al Qaida operatives in the recent past), try to give you a better understanding of our thoughts and beliefs while keeping our language under control however misbehaving yours is (like i just did).
Kaalchakra, Yes please do consider me dangerous as just like you when someone tries to tarnish my religion or countries image i will do anything in my power to first calm him down and if not then yes crushing an argument is something we learned from you in 1948. Nobody empathizes, sympathizes with killers but you have to understand the reason y anyone would go so ballistic to stop it from happening again.
MS. Cadbury
Posted by
Cadbury
Jul 23, 2005 06:52 am
Re: # 12Don`t confuse understanding of reasons for becoming a terrorist with empathy for the bombers and NO Koran does not teach us to empathize with such elements either.
We do get profiled like alot of other nationalities so what ? We are people who stand straight in the eye of authority and they have the right to ensure they can protect their land from fanatics but then being searched is better then bowing in front of others like you guys do and strip search tht might just happen to indies not us sweety.
Yes we do stop people when they go against the teachings of Koran and give wrong preceptions and understanding of the most forgiving religion a very good example is the condemnation by Musharraf in the article above just incase you missed it, banning Lashkar - i - Taiba and arrest of the computer geek Mr. Khan to name a few which bought in vital intelligence on future terrorist targets.
Yes, homeland security department is not the place we would call if we want to report a possible bomber as we have our own departments for that incase you have missed Pakistan has given alot of intelligence about possible bombing attacks in US and UK through various means.
Like you i can go on and on but then did u really read what i wrote i guess not or maybe u didn`t let it sink in hiding behind your shell of preceptions about muslims created by your Saffron Brigade.
And no we don`t just pray to Allah to stop the suicide bombers and the Hindis like yourself from going about your daily business of defaming our religion and country but we do catch them (like we did to several Al Qaida operatives in the recent past), try to give you a better understanding of our thoughts and beliefs while keeping our language under control however misbehaving yours is (like i just did).
Kaalchakra, Yes please do consider me dangerous as just like you when someone tries to tarnish my religion or countries image i will do anything in my power to first calm him down and if not then yes crushing an argument is something we learned from you in 1948. Nobody empathizes, sympathizes with killers but you have to understand the reason y anyone would go so ballistic to stop it from happening again.
MS. Cadbury
Will Pakistanis Listen and Act?
It would be stupid to say Pakistgan should kill / arresrt all terrorists or stop beleiving in quran or that islam is a religion of voilence cause all of these have been proven otherwise a million times already yet people still sight them as reasons.
The main reason a terrorist is born is the feeling of depreviation of their rights which for muslims urfortunately is happening all over the world exmples incase you ae wondering would be:
Palastine (A country broken and distorted in decades of voilence so they agree to giving all of their homeland to someone else, although after killing alot of people the occupying forces are now kind enought to let them live on cordoned blocks of their own land),
Bosnia (remember the mass graves, the slashed kids and raped girls ??? now where did muslims really do tht sort of massacres being such voilent ppl as we are depicted to be),
Afghanistan (all the bombs but no dead Bin Ladin, killing 10s of thousands of people as compared to those killed in the unfortunate 9/11 makes sense to only the insane logically),
Iraq (Oh the start of a democracy by occupying a free land even if ruled by a dictator funded by the old pal US of A until he went cuckoo nuts too)
and how can one forget after the drum roll mention the beautiful and blood bathed Kashmir( Yes the indo - pak own breeding ground for fanatics).
Now do you see why alot of muslims would be against Jews, christians and yes the poor hindus.
Yes we have a majority of moderates who wouldn`t go sporting a bomb dress killing innocent lives but like everyother socity we have our stock of nuts and they would because some people give them really good valid reasons.
Now that you know why terrorists are born coming up with a solution is simple, (incase you didn`t fugure it out earlier) live and let live. How does the christian or lets be on a broder scale western community feel when they have bombs exploding in their backyards. Has there been retaliatry attacks on muslims and mosques in UK after the london bombs and the unforgettable 9/11? Yes (please read the news reports if u must question this) so y do u think muslims would act any different?
Don`t get me wrong i am NOT justifying terrorism here its wrong carried out by anyone muslim or non muslim and Paki or non Paki, but please don`t drill these allegations on a religion, country or ethnicity as each of your countries have a fair share of wackos who you try to control and often fail, might i remind you of the Babri Mosque incident OR the IRA bombings OR the school shootings in US. It doesn`t make you a lesser country or religious community in our eyes and we expect to be treated likewise.
Posted by
Cadbury
Jul 23, 2005 04:32 am
The guy just panned out what steps Pakistan has taken and will take to erradicate terrorism, what more do you want ??? Its not something anyone can acheive overnight (and by that we are not inviting anyone to contest on how soon they can acheive the task on our soil) or something that can be acheived by one country on its own or for that matter one religion on its own. In this world we need to coexist with not pointing fingers at each other.It would be stupid to say Pakistgan should kill / arresrt all terrorists or stop beleiving in quran or that islam is a religion of voilence cause all of these have been proven otherwise a million times already yet people still sight them as reasons.
The main reason a terrorist is born is the feeling of depreviation of their rights which for muslims urfortunately is happening all over the world exmples incase you ae wondering would be:
Palastine (A country broken and distorted in decades of voilence so they agree to giving all of their homeland to someone else, although after killing alot of people the occupying forces are now kind enought to let them live on cordoned blocks of their own land),
Bosnia (remember the mass graves, the slashed kids and raped girls ??? now where did muslims really do tht sort of massacres being such voilent ppl as we are depicted to be),
Afghanistan (all the bombs but no dead Bin Ladin, killing 10s of thousands of people as compared to those killed in the unfortunate 9/11 makes sense to only the insane logically),
Iraq (Oh the start of a democracy by occupying a free land even if ruled by a dictator funded by the old pal US of A until he went cuckoo nuts too)
and how can one forget after the drum roll mention the beautiful and blood bathed Kashmir( Yes the indo - pak own breeding ground for fanatics).
Now do you see why alot of muslims would be against Jews, christians and yes the poor hindus.
Yes we have a majority of moderates who wouldn`t go sporting a bomb dress killing innocent lives but like everyother socity we have our stock of nuts and they would because some people give them really good valid reasons.
Now that you know why terrorists are born coming up with a solution is simple, (incase you didn`t fugure it out earlier) live and let live. How does the christian or lets be on a broder scale western community feel when they have bombs exploding in their backyards. Has there been retaliatry attacks on muslims and mosques in UK after the london bombs and the unforgettable 9/11? Yes (please read the news reports if u must question this) so y do u think muslims would act any different?
Don`t get me wrong i am NOT justifying terrorism here its wrong carried out by anyone muslim or non muslim and Paki or non Paki, but please don`t drill these allegations on a religion, country or ethnicity as each of your countries have a fair share of wackos who you try to control and often fail, might i remind you of the Babri Mosque incident OR the IRA bombings OR the school shootings in US. It doesn`t make you a lesser country or religious community in our eyes and we expect to be treated likewise.
Getting Hooked
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Cadbury
Jul 15, 2005 11:28 am
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Ayodhya Back On Top
Keep on pretending, you seem to have forgotten beggers don`t give threats do they ???
About Jihadis well find out first wht it means and then tlk about it i am not event gonna waste my time teaching u tht. We don`t really call the killers of gujrat roits, 1992 roits or the ones who bought down a mosque sadhus and pandits either although thats what they dress as don`t they and unlike you i do know what Sadhus and Pandit mean
Posted by
Cadbury
Jul 6, 2005 02:07 pm
Re: # 65Keep on pretending, you seem to have forgotten beggers don`t give threats do they ???
About Jihadis well find out first wht it means and then tlk about it i am not event gonna waste my time teaching u tht. We don`t really call the killers of gujrat roits, 1992 roits or the ones who bought down a mosque sadhus and pandits either although thats what they dress as don`t they and unlike you i do know what Sadhus and Pandit mean
Ayodhya Back On Top
Sorry sweets didn`t see ur answer. So wht was the banter about same resources ? well lets see we have the same sun and the moon (they do give us their blessings everyday u know) same patch of land as well and we also have the same skin colour almost, same social problems but since you are not like normal human being these similarities dont mean enough so listen lady, the atom bomb just like yours, soldiers just like yours (most of ours are actually better), tanks like yours, ships like yours, ordinace factories like your, planes like yours etc etc etc.
What more are you looking for ??? how hard is it for you guys to move on from 1947 ??? and buying stuff frm you well incase you haven`t NOTICED we have the MONEY too to spend and you know the best reason YOU ARE CHEAP. When was the last time India became SOOO independant that it stopped buying stuff from abroad. I don`t wanna waste my time researching the net on whtever u buy frm whereever in detail but i guess you know those already don`t you.
Smarten up lady wake up to reality the world really is what you make it and your kinda attitude will only make it worse. And please dont come back crying about me having double standards and talking about kicking your ass cuz i ve said that from the start we will do it IF you provoke and you know smthing just like bombs in temples hurt you explotions and rifle bursts in Mosque hurt us too its not like we will just sit and let you walk over us ever
and yeh tht posty about being ahead of us just incase you`ve forgotten we are always 24 hours earlier than you in our freedon from brits and ofcourse how can i forget YOU.
Again breaking mosques and temples is not the way to move forward but then even after smone specifically mentioning it to you, you wana go over it again and again and again
Posted by
Cadbury
Jul 6, 2005 02:01 pm
Re: # 60Sorry sweets didn`t see ur answer. So wht was the banter about same resources ? well lets see we have the same sun and the moon (they do give us their blessings everyday u know) same patch of land as well and we also have the same skin colour almost, same social problems but since you are not like normal human being these similarities dont mean enough so listen lady, the atom bomb just like yours, soldiers just like yours (most of ours are actually better), tanks like yours, ships like yours, ordinace factories like your, planes like yours etc etc etc.
What more are you looking for ??? how hard is it for you guys to move on from 1947 ??? and buying stuff frm you well incase you haven`t NOTICED we have the MONEY too to spend and you know the best reason YOU ARE CHEAP. When was the last time India became SOOO independant that it stopped buying stuff from abroad. I don`t wanna waste my time researching the net on whtever u buy frm whereever in detail but i guess you know those already don`t you.
Smarten up lady wake up to reality the world really is what you make it and your kinda attitude will only make it worse. And please dont come back crying about me having double standards and talking about kicking your ass cuz i ve said that from the start we will do it IF you provoke and you know smthing just like bombs in temples hurt you explotions and rifle bursts in Mosque hurt us too its not like we will just sit and let you walk over us ever
and yeh tht posty about being ahead of us just incase you`ve forgotten we are always 24 hours earlier than you in our freedon from brits and ofcourse how can i forget YOU.
Again breaking mosques and temples is not the way to move forward but then even after smone specifically mentioning it to you, you wana go over it again and again and again
Ayodhya Back On Top
Don`t get me wrong I will still stand by my beating ur ass claims but unlike u thats not everything my world revolves around. Respecting each other is the eventual conclusion anyone with BRAINS will come to but then how would you ever understand it ??? God is great isn`t he ?
Posted by
Cadbury
Jul 6, 2005 01:40 pm
Re: # 65Don`t get me wrong I will still stand by my beating ur ass claims but unlike u thats not everything my world revolves around. Respecting each other is the eventual conclusion anyone with BRAINS will come to but then how would you ever understand it ???
Ayodhya Back On Top
What did u say we lost 4 wars with u??? God ur government really does raise historically illiterate civilians i guess.
We lost 1948 with u and you know why cuz oh my God !!! the ripping partition the biggest injustice to Hindus gave pakistan only trains full of corpses and eyes full of tears, when we lost the war it was because your oh so great nation behaved like vultures and tried to take whatever they could of those corpses. Which includes the ever debated Kashmir that is oh so yours (yeah right as if!!!)
1965, we lets see i can really teach u history but then just check which was the biggest war of tanks, how many were yours and how many were ours and who won there since u did have the time to comment u can find the time to look for the REAL truth but then thts only if u can take ur blinkers off. We won it only cuz of our brains and sheer courage of our people.
1971, those would have been civil roit if u guys didn`t INTRUDE and help the militias there. We lost to our brothers not u so please !!!!
whts the fourth one Kargil ? Siachen ? just check which side had treason inquiries against there own people weapon scandals against their own leaders. I don`t remember that happening in Pakistan and unlike you my memory isn`t bad at all.
Another evidence for our brains and might is your ever increasin defence budgets, we justify our budget increases on the basis that we are fighting a big nation and have accepted the fact that we have a big hostile neighbour next door you on the other hand are afraid of what then ????? why the fences on the borders sweetheart ? what are you guys of scared off if you are oh so great and better than us.
And our friendship with China ??? now why does that bother you so much when you have all access to Israel, Russia, America ??? Scaredy Cat ??
All said and done guys seriously we can go on and on on who is better forever and ever and ever and since we all love our respective countries we will probably never stop that just how love is. So why can`t we just respect our neighbours and their citizen`s feelings. Nobody asks indians to love pakis and vice versa but u can atleast show respect. I agree we temporal again we cannot choose our geographical neighbours so just accept the facts and move on distorting them is not gonna help at all. I have lost relatives in partitions and the wars in b/w and i m sure ppl from both sides lost their loved ones for thats the nature of wars so why do you want to repeat it again and fill your future generations with the same misconceptions ?
Posted by
Cadbury
Jul 6, 2005 12:29 pm
Re: # 43What did u say we lost 4 wars with u??? God ur government really does raise historically illiterate civilians i guess.
We lost 1948 with u and you know why cuz oh my God !!! the ripping partition the biggest injustice to Hindus gave pakistan only trains full of corpses and eyes full of tears, when we lost the war it was because your oh so great nation behaved like vultures and tried to take whatever they could of those corpses. Which includes the ever debated Kashmir that is oh so yours (yeah right as if!!!)
1965, we lets see i can really teach u history but then just check which was the biggest war of tanks, how many were yours and how many were ours and who won there since u did have the time to comment u can find the time to look for the REAL truth but then thts only if u can take ur blinkers off. We won it only cuz of our brains and sheer courage of our people.
1971, those would have been civil roit if u guys didn`t INTRUDE and help the militias there. We lost to our brothers not u so please !!!!
whts the fourth one Kargil ? Siachen ? just check which side had treason inquiries against there own people weapon scandals against their own leaders. I don`t remember that happening in Pakistan and unlike you my memory isn`t bad at all.
Another evidence for our brains and might is your ever increasin defence budgets, we justify our budget increases on the basis that we are fighting a big nation and have accepted the fact that we have a big hostile neighbour next door you on the other hand are afraid of what then ????? why the fences on the borders sweetheart ? what are you guys of scared off if you are oh so great and better than us.
And our friendship with China ??? now why does that bother you so much when you have all access to Israel, Russia, America ??? Scaredy Cat ??
All said and done guys seriously we can go on and on on who is better forever and ever and ever and since we all love our respective countries we will probably never stop that just how love is. So why can`t we just respect our neighbours and their citizen`s feelings. Nobody asks indians to love pakis and vice versa but u can atleast show respect. I agree we temporal again we cannot choose our geographical neighbours so just accept the facts and move on distorting them is not gonna help at all. I have lost relatives in partitions and the wars in b/w and i m sure ppl from both sides lost their loved ones for thats the nature of wars so why do you want to repeat it again and fill your future generations with the same misconceptions ?
Ayodhya Back On Top
Hi Cayenne,
About your last comment, if my history serves me right, didn`t one of your very prominent leaders at the time of independence made similar claims of us Pikes not being able to survive on our own, a country that came into being with a capital of only 700 million rupees and atleast double the mouths to feed???
Now if you count aren`t we like 68 yrs old almost as old as your oh so great and rich and not to forget secular and tolerant country (which by the way still owes us 50 million of our due share from 1947`s finance split in Reserve Bank of India)
I ve seen the media propaganda against us in your internal media, we aren`t a country of cavemens darling moving our bodies to your music. If you think the partition of your Akhand Bharat was unjust, just remeber that we`ve acheived that with all the sanctions and poverty 68 yrs ago with all of you and the british ombined and you expect to conquer us now? when we`ve fed on our own lush food and have all the same resources as you on hand, we may not have tons of money, armour or human count but can still beat your asses if you even pick on us cuz we have the brains.
Temporal along with everyone who shares his veiws which ofcourse includes me on the subject are very fair and right in hoping for peace with you guys but then just remember we are peaceful as we follow a peaceful religion put please stop bagering on our national esteem otherwise all i can say is that whatever you blame us of will only be remembered as trailers to what you will see on a full fledged war.
Posted by
Cadbury
Jul 6, 2005 08:04 am
Re: # 37Hi Cayenne,
About your last comment, if my history serves me right, didn`t one of your very prominent leaders at the time of independence made similar claims of us Pikes not being able to survive on our own, a country that came into being with a capital of only 700 million rupees and atleast double the mouths to feed???
Now if you count aren`t we like 68 yrs old almost as old as your oh so great and rich and not to forget secular and tolerant country (which by the way still owes us 50 million of our due share from 1947`s finance split in Reserve Bank of India)
I ve seen the media propaganda against us in your internal media, we aren`t a country of cavemens darling moving our bodies to your music. If you think the partition of your Akhand Bharat was unjust, just remeber that we`ve acheived that with all the sanctions and poverty 68 yrs ago with all of you and the british ombined and you expect to conquer us now? when we`ve fed on our own lush food and have all the same resources as you on hand, we may not have tons of money, armour or human count but can still beat your asses if you even pick on us cuz we have the brains.
Temporal along with everyone who shares his veiws which ofcourse includes me on the subject are very fair and right in hoping for peace with you guys but then just remember we are peaceful as we follow a peaceful religion put please stop bagering on our national esteem otherwise all i can say is that whatever you blame us of will only be remembered as trailers to what you will see on a full fledged war.
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