We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! #359 Posted by masadi on September 26, 2008 9:37:49 pm
{"har eik baat pey kehtey ho tum key too kya hai?
khudhee kaho key ye indaaz e guftagoo kya hai? "}

Humaray aaNgan men tashreef laaye to achcha
Kehtay hen Hamidum takleef se jaaye ga bachcha

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Pinku #351 {"I think you are wrongly blaming Army then, eventually you arrived at the same conclusion? The Pak army is trying to get that Lalkila back. FATA is just for kids, their focus is always on lal-Quila..."}

Abey Pinku yaar,
All we want is Chandni Chowk and if the Lal Quila comes with it, we won't complain. :)

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Urstruly #350.

Finally a post by someone who is heeding the topic of discussion. Thank you bro. I think that we are both in violent agreement about the universal national service. That's good. Please reconsider the optional female and non-Muslim caveat. I would make it compulsory, especially for women, and of course, non-Muslims too. This will allow us to have exposure to each other, different provinces, different culture, different genders, and different religions all interacting in one selfless spirit of Pakistani "come to Jesus" kumbaaya hug your neighbor to the right, hug your neighbor to the left - ASSALAMOALAIKUM WA RAHMATULLAH, ASSALAMOALAIKUM WA RAHMATULLAH.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Afat #333 {"aap kay shaista andaz ka aik bar phir shukria. "}

Afat Sahib (or shayad Sahiba, kiyunke ummeed rakhney men koi harj nahin),

Hum kissi Shaista Waista dosheeza se muwafiq nahin, hazrat. Lehaaza, humara shukriya ata farmaana aapka intihaai purkhuloos rawaayya or naqaabil-e-barabri ka inkishaaf he.
janab, qabl iske ke hummari nazuk zabaan ka mazaaqiya khamyaaza banaayajai, behter he ke hum iss guftagu se subuk andosh hojaaen. LOL

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Mohar #341 {"Nobody have to love you pakis, the Idea is to get along... we got along pretty well until 1965, when you pakis had your usual 7-years itch to get your asses kicked... ha ha...

before that, there was no visa required for travel across borders - or so people tell us... So yes, sans terrorism, things will be much better between us...

but if you are looking for "love", then check unplugged, I have a "message" for you... ;) "}

Mohar Bhayya,
You are dead wrong on both counts #1 results of '65 war and #2 visa to visit prior to '65.

Having seen you down for the count of two, I dare not visit UP to see what other lies you have cooked up.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Jang #344 {"when mughal hegemony was established with support from rajputs and other indian forces, the afgans were kept at bay. when it collapsed, abdali and nadir shah happened."}

Jang,
I totally agree with you. Let's restore the Sultanat-e-Mughlaya and put a Pisser-e-ya Dukhtar-e-Timur in the Red Fort and get on with it. Lahore, Islamabad, and Srinagar could be their summer capitals. Great idea - I am ready to support the huge money of Hindustan.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! #336 Murgh-e-humsheera-e-fasaadi-e-chowk al portugaali - Miguel DeSouza Fernandez Pinto DaSilva Herrera Parerra Jones.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! arjun #335 {"the pakiwhackers are doing a great job."}

Arjun,
It's Friday afternoon in Tysons. Did you check Atif's plans? He said something about his Paki tallywhacker against your Tail's Pakiwhacker.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Dear Friends,
Thank you for taking the time to read this article and offer your meaningful and thoughtful comments and feedback. One thing is for sure, you people can, and should, be accused of all sorts of crimes, but being boring and uninteresting are not two of them.

Now that we have discussed the Pak Army, Indian intentions, Hindu superiority, the curse of Islam, and the need for "Pakiwhackers," I suggest we move on to the next item on the agenda.

Please offer concrete and precise suggestions to alter the makeup of the Pak military, the various approaches, their advantages, and downsides. Also, please note and identify who should be responsible for carrying out the tasks. Lastly, how do we ensure that the Pak military never intervenes in the executive, legislative, and judicial aspects of Pakistani government? Thank you for your cooperation. Be polite with each other, because today's enema is tomorrow's fiend.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Pinku,
I am very angry at your frivolous red-flagging of my very innocent post. I hope that you don't post your own opinions with such cavalier nonchalance.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! #271 Posted by anil on September 25, 2008 3:58:01 pm
Re: # 268
Salim sahib:
Kahin aap aur unchaa audhaa tou nahin de rahe hain?
I am vey happy that you and Clifton are almost back on the same side. "}

Anil Sahib,
I have the utmost respect and affection for your beti. My only desire is that she stick with her own mainly brilliant observations and viewpoints and not allow them to be tainted by some obscure obligation to please a friend, an associate, or an ally.

She is very effective when she thinks independently. As far as unchaa Auda is concerned - I neither seek office nor am I in a position to hand one out. We Sufis have only love to offer mankind.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! #274 Posted by atif2 on September 25, 2008 4:54:03 pm
{"Salim, this is a well reasoned and well balanced article. I feel your pain regarding chowk staff cutting out the last para of your article. ...
Nevertheless, its heartening to see that people are beginning to think about the "root causes"...two words that were made to be taboo in the last 8 years. The ideology of "good vs evil" and "with us or against us" will now be relegated, along with Bush, to the trash bin of history.
Good riddance! "}

Atif,
Thank you for reading my article, and more importantly, reading the missing paragraph. I have made repeated requests for Chowk to rectify the "mistake" (wink, wink) and so far no success. I just hope that it's a matter of neglect and lethargy and not some insidious Injun attempt to sabotage another Pakistani for just being a peaceful neighbor. :) I agree with you about "root causes," and "good riddance." Wise people should always dig deeper and avoid a Texas Two Step - simple as it may be.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! #278 Posted by hamidm2 on September 25, 2008 7:12:06 pm
{"chowk staff,
.... please ban all indian interactors (hindoos and house moslems) from this site - they are getting to be pain in the butt ..... how do you expect good pakis like me, salim mian and hp mian to solve our country's problems when these ... these ... dhoti wearing, veggie eating, sideways head wagging code coolies and bride burners keep on distracting us ........ let's purify this site "}

Hamidumdum Sahib,
Not only was this request justified, it was also very funny. As we solve Pakistan's problems, these "conseeeqwently and subseeeqwently mutter of fakt Indians vill naat staap unlass anda until vee remind them of their place on the taatum pull."

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! #279 Posted by ijaz_gul on September 25, 2008 7:31:53 pm
{"Salim,
SHABAASH!!!!!!!!! "}

Ijaz Sahib,
Shukriya, aap ki Inaayat he. HP Sain, once reminded of his own not so insignificant military prowess, has decided that the military is a big part of the problem. He is so convinced that he wants to dismantle it.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! #280 Posted by akcheema on September 25, 2008 8:07:01 pm
Re: # 278; hamidm sahib

{"I'd second that sir ... it is amazing that every article about Pakistan attracts so much Indian interest! .... lately there were some articles about India and you'd hardly notice any Pakistani presence there"}

Cheema Sahib,
I would have to agree with both you and Hamidumdum Sahib. Indians are not very interested in the misery, death, poverty, and injustice that are common place in India. We had a renowned journalist on UP named Daily News or some nick like that. That person researched and posted three articles about India every day and guess what? Indians avoided Daily News like most Indians avoid all mirrors as they pass by - they already know what's there so why spoil their day?

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! HP #288 {"You would have loved Pakistan had there been no terrorists? Did you love Pakistan before the terrorism."}

HP,
Finally, you are back to the basic question and a good one. Perhaps nkg can tell us how much he loved Pakistan and Pakistanis before he ran into the terrorism of Mohd Hanif, Fazal Mahmood, Intikhab Alam, Khan Mohammed, and Imtiaz - not to mention Inzimam, Imran, Zahir, Wasim Akram, and Shoaib Akhtar, and how could I forget Javaid Miandad.