We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Viqarm #289 {"Hopefully, if the democratic process can endure, the people will, in time, elect representative who can get on with the task of fixing things.That is, if the elite does not first destroy completely the edific of Pakistan before any of this can clean up can take place.

A far more likely outcome is the violent upheavel, that Urstruly keeps alluding to, if things continue the way they have thus far. "}

Viqar Bhai,
Thank you for your kind praise and further comment. Yes, as in most issues, the Pak Army is not the ONLY plague infecting Pakistan. I agree that the Mullah, the feudals, the corrupt bureacracy, the terrorist militants, and of course the superset called "THE ELITE," are all heavy hitters and collectively THE WHOLE PROBLEM. The reason I picked on the military first is because, since they wear a uniform, they are the easiest to identify. Their supremely arrogant behavior is the other dead give away.

I agree with all of your points. Let's hope a repititive experience with good democracy ousting bad leaders will get us the changes we need and Urstruly's bloody vision will remain a mirage.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! masanamuthu {" think the real problem lies in the mindset of Pakistani Muslims thinking that they are REAL Muslims like the bloodthirsty crowd under the prophet and other Arab/Turk Muslims who can wage wars and subjugate other groups.

I think almost all of Pakistani Muslims are Hindu converts who bend their backs at the sight of the first aggressor. you see, genes do play a role.. :-)"}

Dear Mithu Mian,
I noticed that you took my chagrin regarding Pak Army rule and elevated it to divine heights. :) As one with both REAL "bloodthirsty" Muslim and cowardly Hindu renegade genes, I represent your remarks. I don't think the fat Indian lady (take your pick) has sung her song yet.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Dear Chowk Editor/Staff,
You still have not corrected the mistakes I have pointed out in my e-mails to you and several posts in this forum.

In this article there are two mistakes:

1. In the first paragrapsh, line 4, there should be a space between "Palestinians" and "and" - it reads Palestiniansand right now.

2. The last paragraph of my article is missing - please insert the following paragraph at the end:

Before it's too late we need to save the house from the Chowkidar. Unlike India, Pakistan harbors no hegemonic ambitions. We really have no territorial quest other than reuniting with our brethren in Kashmir. A well-functioning, stable, and economically successful Pakistan will be a more attractive magnet for Kashmir. A national army, based on universal national service, for young men and women is a tempting solution. Reinforced with tactical nuclear weapons, an army, commensurate with our resources, needs, and vision, should lead us to a more secure and prosperous future.

Pakistan Zindabad.


Thank you for your cooperation in rectifying these two mistakes.

Sincerely,

Salim Ahmed Chauhan

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Hamidumdum Sahib #312 {"we have the militants, we have the nuclear bomb, and the West wouldn't want the militants to have that bomb." "}

Hamidumdum Sahib,
LOL - as one famous relationship consultant opined - "When you have them by the tentacles, their hearts and minds are sure to follow."

BTW, your request to Chowk Staff to ban all Injun interactors was downright funny. I laughed out loud while reading it.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! nkg #314 {"Don't be surprised to see India made Boeing F-18s pounding Pakiland within another 5 years."}

nkg yaar,
I think you have the Boeing fighter plane confused with the "Boing Boing rickshaw on a pogo stick" that was recently announced by India for completion within 5 years.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! HP #262 {"Salim,
Okay this is wee bit better but still no dismantling part."}

HP,
Gradual replacement by a national service corps is a polite way of dismantling. Don't worry about their economic futures - most of the existing soldiers, airmen, and sailors are astute businessmen.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Anil #265 {"Would not that be Mr. 10%?"}
Anil Sahib,
Touche - applause applause. :)
I was actually referring to someone much dumber.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! HP #264 {"Reportedly Less than 300 Pundit died in Kashmir in 1989-90."}

HP,
Too bad a fat, buck-toothed one with percentage-deficiency and an ego the size of his own posterior was not one of the 300.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Chowk Staff,
Please expedite the corrections that I requested in my e-mail to you and in my post #22 in this forum.

Specifically, please restore the last paragraph in my article. Without this paragraph, the article does lose its conclusion. Here is that last paragraph:

Before it's too late we need to save the house from the Chowkidar. Unlike India, Pakistan harbors no hegemonic ambitions. We really have no territorial quest other than reuniting with our brethren in Kashmir. A well-functioning, stable, and economically successful Pakistan will be a more attractive magnet for Kashmir. A national army, based on universal national service, for young men and women is a tempting solution. Reinforced with tactical nuclear weapons, an army, commensurate with our resources, needs, and vision, should lead us to a more secure and prosperous future.

Pakistan Zindabad.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! HP #253 {"We are about the same age and you forgot what you wrote in the article. It is a rant against the army you never called for its destruction.
In fact, We can't have this army to thwart any attack. Only a re-educated or re-constituted army can be trusted with that task."}

Dear HP,
Thank you for the honor of making me Hum-Umr. :) That's the nicest thing you have said to me in two days.

Chowk Staff, in their rush to print my article made a "mistake" (wink, wink) and left out my last paragraph, which called for a military based on a national service model. Here is my last paragraph for your enjoyment:

Before it's too late we need to save the house from the Chowkidar. Unlike India, Pakistan harbors no hegemonic ambitions. We really have no territorial quest other than reuniting with our brethren in Kashmir. A well-functioning, stable, and economically successful Pakistan will be a more attractive magnet for Kashmir. A national army, based on universal national service, for young men and women is a tempting solution. Reinforced with tactical nuclear weapons, an army, commensurate with our resources, needs, and vision, should lead us to a more secure and prosperous future.

Pakistan Zindabad.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! HP #230 {"I also think that you article does not make the case based on the overall role of the Pakistan army in Pakistani politics. Zia was not the first Army General to take over, the sickness started in the army way before him. "}

HP,
Forget term limits, I think that there should be an age limit after which people should not be allowed to post on Chowk or do grocery shopping.

Please read the issues again. Zia was not the focal point. It was the military of which Zia was a member and a leader. Of course he wasn't the first military man to usurp the throne, he was merely the third one. I never based the case on Zia alone. In fact, your posts have validated my claim. We are quite similar except that one side of you is very different.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! #223 Posted by _arjun24 on September 25, 2008 11:16:47 am
{"retard..I know you're taking being dumped very badly but the article clearly says that 50% of pakis support suicide bombing elsewhere while 15% support it everywhere..."}

Arjun,
I am long from being retired. Did you know that 93% of Pakistanis want to see 100% of your nonsense dumped 85% up your rotunda. The other 7% are holding out for 100%.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! #218 Posted by mohar11 on September 25, 2008 11:05:30 am
salim,
from I understood from the poll -
50% karachi pakis support suicide bombs 'outside' pakiland... 15% support the bombs 'inside' pakiland... "}

Mohar,
So what do the other 35% think?

or

in Chaltahai's jargon, 50% + 15% better equal to 90% otherwise the ointment will hit the rotator blades and Atif is going to make me look like a fool again.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! ajeya #211 {"Considering the fact that it was Indians who invented the decimal numbering system."}

Ajeya,
...and the johnny on the spot near the railroad tracks, the portable, inflatable, Siva accessory, and the human rickshaw.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! #209 Posted by cliftonbridge on September 25, 2008 10:44:52 am

{"lol....salim are you saying arjuna has been cooking the books this whole time? daymn that crooked banya. This is why our peeps wanted a seperate continent and settled for a country."}

Cliffy,
LOL - I wish it was as simple as cooking. This guy is copying the Wall St. whiz bang kid and using percentages to mask his own lack of precision. As long as it adds up to a full and complete grand total of 90% Chalta will bless it.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! cliftonbridge #208 {"So why are pakis still supporting bombings, even if it's done outside"

Very good question. Right up there with why do poor people vote republican, why do women stay in abusive relationships, why do people have unprotected sex with strangers, why do lower castes stay hindu instead of converting ..."}

Cliftonbridge,
Now there's my Bath Island girl. :)
You are immersing them totally - but that is a good thing for Hindus. :)