Dhokha and Being a Muslim in India
No doubt there are scores of Indian Muslim living in poverty but there is also a much bigger Hindu population in poverty. Denial of self-esteem is not a problem for Indaian Muslims alone but also for poor lower caste, middle caste and upper caste people too.
What I am trying to say is that your categorization does not depict the exact picture. If somebody from xyz caste/religion says that there are lots of poverty stricken people of my caste/religion in India, it will always turn out to be true.
Why dont you visit India to clear out the misgivings?
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 24, 2008 02:45 am
Masadi,No doubt there are scores of Indian Muslim living in poverty but there is also a much bigger Hindu population in poverty. Denial of self-esteem is not a problem for Indaian Muslims alone but also for poor lower caste, middle caste and upper caste people too.
What I am trying to say is that your categorization does not depict the exact picture. If somebody from xyz caste/religion says that there are lots of poverty stricken people of my caste/religion in India, it will always turn out to be true.
Why dont you visit India to clear out the misgivings?
Dhokha and Being a Muslim in India
HP,
"History teaches many lessons….I guess Hindutva followers need to look at the German fascist history very closely. The mirror will surprise them."
If History is going to repeat itself again and again then theres no History...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 24, 2008 02:18 am
Re: # 204HP,
"History teaches many lessons….I guess Hindutva followers need to look at the German fascist history very closely. The mirror will surprise them."
If History is going to repeat itself again and again then theres no History...
Dhokha and Being a Muslim in India
Muslim chowkies are intelligent enough to understand that. Afterall we have several things in common, especially the survival problems...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 22, 2008 11:50 pm
Maju Anna,Muslim chowkies are intelligent enough to understand that. Afterall we have several things in common, especially the survival problems...
Dhokha and Being a Muslim in India
"The part regarding Americanism and Hinduism- translated through the current right wing Hindu mind it might hold true as these Hindus try to kiss the behind of their masters but not otherwise"
You are right, theres no single point agenda for Hinduism and also there is no singular description for Hindus and their aspirations...
There are more Hindus who are worried about the right onset of monsoons than their religion/country making inroads into other's territory...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 22, 2008 11:43 pm
Masadi,"The part regarding Americanism and Hinduism- translated through the current right wing Hindu mind it might hold true as these Hindus try to kiss the behind of their masters but not otherwise"
You are right, theres no single point agenda for Hinduism and also there is no singular description for Hindus and their aspirations...
There are more Hindus who are worried about the right onset of monsoons than their religion/country making inroads into other's territory...
Dhokha and Being a Muslim in India
Saima's post is not a parody...She has tried her best to express the underlying ideas of Hinduism, which again is her own understanding.
I am not sure if she is right when she speaks about Hindu's attachment to the land...I've been thinking the contrary...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 22, 2008 11:28 pm
HP,Saima's post is not a parody...She has tried her best to express the underlying ideas of Hinduism, which again is her own understanding.
I am not sure if she is right when she speaks about Hindu's attachment to the land...I've been thinking the contrary...
Dhokha and Being a Muslim in India
Your thoughts and intelligence are much valued but not your temper...Your ascerbic language distracts people from seeing what your thoughts are...
Please go cool....(thumbs up icon)
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 22, 2008 11:00 pm
Masadi,Your thoughts and intelligence are much valued but not your temper...Your ascerbic language distracts people from seeing what your thoughts are...
Please go cool....(thumbs up icon)
Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance
Theres a rumour that WHO or some western agency(ies) is/are administering a drug, in the guise of polio vaccine, that would cause sterility...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 17, 2008 11:00 pm
nb,Theres a rumour that WHO or some western agency(ies) is/are administering a drug, in the guise of polio vaccine, that would cause sterility...
A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations
lol...Majumdar is trying to retribute for being anti-Masadi for a long time...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 17, 2008 10:57 pm
nb,lol...Majumdar is trying to retribute for being anti-Masadi for a long time...
A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations
Vision for the next 20/40/60 years...Still people believe in this stuff...Society is not a plastic toy to morph into something that a leader wants it to be...Society has a mind of its own..
Nkg the next time when somebody says this to you, you can safely assume he doesnt know what he is talking about.
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 16, 2008 10:45 pm
Re: # 76Vision for the next 20/40/60 years...Still people believe in this stuff...Society is not a plastic toy to morph into something that a leader wants it to be...Society has a mind of its own..
Nkg the next time when somebody says this to you, you can safely assume he doesnt know what he is talking about.
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
Harimau,
Sounds difficult but still exciting...I am not the least surprised about the Mech guy...A couple of batch-mates are running a Subway shop there in the US. They have got good grades but dunno why...
But the serious question is, why are we Indians bad in stamina? Theres something seriously wrong...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 14, 2008 07:48 am
Re: # 203Harimau,
Sounds difficult but still exciting...I am not the least surprised about the Mech guy...A couple of batch-mates are running a Subway shop there in the US. They have got good grades but dunno why...
But the serious question is, why are we Indians bad in stamina? Theres something seriously wrong...
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
nb;proly Maju Anna is trying to be irreverential...
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 14, 2008 04:29 am
Re: # 192nb;proly Maju Anna is trying to be irreverential...
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
How did your cycling expedition go?
Happy to see you back Sir...:)
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 14, 2008 04:25 am
Harimau,How did your cycling expedition go?
Happy to see you back Sir...:)
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
Are you trying to say that West Bengal can produce more intellects only in a certain controlled environment? Are you trying to say that if all of the problems you are talking about for Bengal's woes could be solved, Bengal will be back to its glory days?
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 14, 2008 01:38 am
Nkg,Are you trying to say that West Bengal can produce more intellects only in a certain controlled environment? Are you trying to say that if all of the problems you are talking about for Bengal's woes could be solved, Bengal will be back to its glory days?
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
"(Kerala economy is 50% Gulf money. )
So why cant Bongs work as workers elsewhere?"
Thumbs up icon....If Nkg considers these professions lowly then where is the relevance of CPM to Bengal and Bengalis...Pity he doesn't know about Kerala's intellectuals. It is just that nkg knows no more than a few villages of Bengal.
FYI rural TN is far developed than any part of Bengal
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 14, 2008 01:30 am
Maju Anna,"(Kerala economy is 50% Gulf money. )
So why cant Bongs work as workers elsewhere?"
Thumbs up icon....If Nkg considers these professions lowly then where is the relevance of CPM to Bengal and Bengalis...Pity he doesn't know about Kerala's intellectuals. It is just that nkg knows no more than a few villages of Bengal.
FYI rural TN is far developed than any part of Bengal
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
"There are stark difference between a village in Karnataka and a village in West Bengal. That will tell you the story."
Can you elaborate on this?
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 14, 2008 12:18 am
nkg,"There are stark difference between a village in Karnataka and a village in West Bengal. That will tell you the story."
Can you elaborate on this?
A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey
nkg thinks absolutism is possible. He thinks a short period past is the only yardstick to judge Muslims and cow belt people. I don't see a difference between the 'Thanksday Giving' turkey's mindset before the D day and nkg's. I dont blame him rather I blame the 'problem of induction'.
Posted by
vengatramanan
Jul 13, 2008 11:47 pm
West Bengal's glory can exist only in the minds of people like nkg. Everybody in this country has been witnessing CPM massacres during elections and the latest Singur et al...nkg thinks absolutism is possible. He thinks a short period past is the only yardstick to judge Muslims and cow belt people. I don't see a difference between the 'Thanksday Giving' turkey's mindset before the D day and nkg's. I dont blame him rather I blame the 'problem of induction'.
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