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I have no problem in the religious or cultural groups fighting the casteism, once they start doing it the so called progressives would keep quite. Happy now?
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 13, 2008 02:38 am
"it has to be done by religous or cultural groups and not by so-called progressives."I have no problem in the religious or cultural groups fighting the casteism, once they start doing it the so called progressives would keep quite. Happy now?
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Posted by
vengatramanan
May 13, 2008 02:31 am
Thevar side suffered most of the casualties and many don't openly admit to the truth.
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"I believe in caste but not caste pride and esp not one that is detrimental to any other caste"
Sanatani,
I think I share this.We need the caste system but not the vertical arrangement and no caste should equate to any particular profession.
Vanniyars and Thevars are glorified inappropriately. I think in todays Tamilnadu, nobody would dare to prick the dalit pride. Dalits have nothing to lose vis-a-vis thevars and vanniyars. Tamil dalits cannot be subjugated by violence like their 'rest-of-india' counterparts. Its been quite some time since the last major caste violence took place. It was between the dalits and the rest of the castes with thevars leading in front. Thevars' side suffered most of the casualties and many don't openly admits to the truth.
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 13, 2008 02:29 am
Re: # 107"I believe in caste but not caste pride and esp not one that is detrimental to any other caste"
Sanatani,
I think I share this.We need the caste system but not the vertical arrangement and no caste should equate to any particular profession.
Vanniyars and Thevars are glorified inappropriately. I think in todays Tamilnadu, nobody would dare to prick the dalit pride. Dalits have nothing to lose vis-a-vis thevars and vanniyars. Tamil dalits cannot be subjugated by violence like their 'rest-of-india' counterparts. Its been quite some time since the last major caste violence took place. It was between the dalits and the rest of the castes with thevars leading in front. Thevars' side suffered most of the casualties and many don't openly admits to the truth.
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Selim Saab,
Thanks for your delving on atheists. Do tell us Saab if you have come across carnages in the name of atheism.
Atheist is actually a wrong label, an atheist is born out of love for the fellow human beings whereas people becoming pious after coming to hate all things human.
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 12, 2008 10:17 pm
Re: # 95Selim Saab,
Thanks for your delving on atheists. Do tell us Saab if you have come across carnages in the name of atheism.
Atheist is actually a wrong label, an atheist is born out of love for the fellow human beings whereas people becoming pious after coming to hate all things human.
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Salim Bhai,
Angrez aren't that bad. Yesterday, on NDTV, a show with Shane Warne, McGrath and a few Indians was on air. You know the amount of effort the Indians took to make the whites feel loved, these shameless creatures would abhor if the shadows of low castes happen to touch theirs.
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 12, 2008 10:13 pm
Re: # 92Salim Bhai,
Angrez aren't that bad. Yesterday, on NDTV, a show with Shane Warne, McGrath and a few Indians was on air. You know the amount of effort the Indians took to make the whites feel loved, these shameless creatures would abhor if the shadows of low castes happen to touch theirs.
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"looks like a lot of people got banned which isn't fair "
Cheer up...they will all come back with a new nic...
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 12, 2008 05:50 am
Re: # 75; akcheema"looks like a lot of people got banned which isn't fair "
Cheer up...they will all come back with a new nic...
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Visit unplugged...peon Saab says you are a Kafr :D...okie...no more rumours from me ...hahah
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 12, 2008 05:45 am
Re: # 75Visit unplugged...peon Saab says you are a Kafr :D...okie...no more rumours from me ...hahah
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akcheema Saab,
There's very little activity on the site...Everybody must have had the sanity potion a little bit too much yesterday. Btw isn't it time you aussies say 'goodnite'...
I was wondering where you were. There is a post that has you as its protoganist...See be a Hindu atheist or a Muslim atheist, the result is the same...
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 12, 2008 05:36 am
Re: # 73akcheema Saab,
There's very little activity on the site...Everybody must have had the sanity potion a little bit too much yesterday. Btw isn't it time you aussies say 'goodnite'...
I was wondering where you were. There is a post that has you as its protoganist...See be a Hindu atheist or a Muslim atheist, the result is the same...
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nb,
akcheema is stalking you. I have been observing him on UP too...Tell him it looks obvious :)...
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 12, 2008 05:19 am
Re: # 69nb,
akcheema is stalking you. I have been observing him on UP too...Tell him it looks obvious :)...
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Salim Bhai,
"A lot of people see success in today's India - I see nothing short of an oligarchy deliberately manufactured for the self-interests of a few high-caste hedonists at the top. This unfair monstrosity will definitely come tumbling down in good time - hopefully with as little violence as possible."
Don't tell me you hate India...You have so much love for this country...
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 12, 2008 02:13 am
Re: # 64Salim Bhai,
"A lot of people see success in today's India - I see nothing short of an oligarchy deliberately manufactured for the self-interests of a few high-caste hedonists at the top. This unfair monstrosity will definitely come tumbling down in good time - hopefully with as little violence as possible."
Don't tell me you hate India...You have so much love for this country...
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
Majumdar,
We have/had a huge proleteriat population outnumbering peasants . The land holding of most of the peasants is miniscule. A proleteriat coolie earns as much the small farmer can. Agri is for losers.
You speak what is served by the government and the media.
There is no way these
losers would have hated socialism. Where do you get the government to write-off the loand?
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 9, 2008 01:45 am
Re: # 222Majumdar,
We have/had a huge proleteriat population outnumbering peasants . The land holding of most of the peasants is miniscule. A proleteriat coolie earns as much the small farmer can. Agri is for losers.
You speak what is served by the government and the media.
There is no way these
losers would have hated socialism. Where do you get the government to write-off the loand?
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
oxymoronic
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 8, 2008 05:33 am
Re: # 210oxymoronic
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
Stalinists would have shown knowledgible Indians, who knew the religion they belonged to, the rapid strides Soviet Union had made. At that point of time, it did appear to be a grand success. The notion of everything owned by everyone would have appealed to the Indian bent of mine and that would not have needed distortion of facts...
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 8, 2008 05:31 am
Majumdar,Stalinists would have shown knowledgible Indians, who knew the religion they belonged to, the rapid strides Soviet Union had made. At that point of time, it did appear to be a grand success. The notion of everything owned by everyone would have appealed to the Indian bent of mine and that would not have needed distortion of facts...
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
It is a fact that Vaishnavites and Shaivites could not tolerate each other. The patronizing kings were used as pawns by the proponents of the respective faiths to decimate the opponent.
I will refer you to some books soon. And please don't bring in the rightist hallucinations here...
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 8, 2008 05:28 am
Majumdar,It is a fact that Vaishnavites and Shaivites could not tolerate each other. The patronizing kings were used as pawns by the proponents of the respective faiths to decimate the opponent.
I will refer you to some books soon. And please don't bring in the rightist hallucinations here...
Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul
Majumdar Dada,
That is preposterous...LOL...
Posted by
vengatramanan
May 8, 2008 05:22 am
Re: # 204Majumdar Dada,
That is preposterous...LOL...
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