I Spy Hindutva
In between 'nok jhok' of insomniac Aussies..
what change in your view mean to You? .how does it differ .Change is time period specific .All change in both side mean the same.
In terms of physics when a point is moved from A to b it is change in any context.
U dont mean to say Hinduism is still in the period of Sati ,Polytheism ,And plans to remain castist, misogynist, dowry ,imbalance inheritence ridden remnents of 'jahilya'
Posted by
Shah2
May 12, 2008 08:42 am
Re: # 85In between 'nok jhok' of insomniac Aussies..
what change in your view mean to You? .how does it differ .Change is time period specific .All change in both side mean the same.
In terms of physics when a point is moved from A to b it is change in any context.
U dont mean to say Hinduism is still in the period of Sati ,Polytheism ,And plans to remain castist, misogynist, dowry ,imbalance inheritence ridden remnents of 'jahilya'
I Spy Hindutva
#65
Many things can be said about change
1}rolling stone gathers no moss
2]A change is as good as fiesta
Even often misunderstood by hindus Allama Iqbal warned
3)
Na sambhlo ge aiye hindustan wallon
Tumhare dastan tak na hogi dastanon maine
Somthing like my country men ( at that time undivided India)if you dont correct yourself
You will perish so completely that no signof you will remain even stories
It is important to note that ijtihad is an accepted concept in Islam( Not static ,dynamic ,changing like in adaptation.) No one, not even most orthodox 'alim, can deny its legitimacy.
This tradition clearly brings out the significance of ijtihad in Islam. It must be borne in mind that Islam itself came into existence in a Meccan society which was undergoing basic socio-economic 'changes'. The pre-Islamic or jahiliyah laws not only were becoming obsolete but downright obstacles for further moral, spiritual and material growth of society.Islam needs some serious IJTEHAD
Islam and its laws thus were not the product of a stagnant society but a society which felt a need for transcendence. Islam catered to the spiritual, moral and material needs of this newly emerging society. It gave new principles and laws acutely needed by the people. The Islamic response to the changing needs of the Meccan society was not only material but also moral and spiritual. Since Islam came into existence in a changing society it emphasised the need for dynamism and the principle of ijtihad embodied its spirit of dynamism.
It was the later generation of 'Ulama who while accepting the principle of ijtihad in theory de-emphasised it in practice. They evolved the concept of taqlid (unthinking imitation) in its place though they cannot quote any hadith from the Prophet in its favour. Taqlid, in a stagnant Islamic societies, thus became a widely accepted principle, as pointed out above. However, today all Islamic societies are experiencing fundamental social changes and rethinking on many issues has become very vital
Posted by
Shah2
May 11, 2008 09:17 pm
#65
Many things can be said about change
1}rolling stone gathers no moss
2]A change is as good as fiesta
Even often misunderstood by hindus Allama Iqbal warned
3)
Na sambhlo ge aiye hindustan wallon
Tumhare dastan tak na hogi dastanon maine
Somthing like my country men ( at that time undivided India)if you dont correct yourself
You will perish so completely that no signof you will remain even stories
It is important to note that ijtihad is an accepted concept in Islam( Not static ,dynamic ,changing like in adaptation.) No one, not even most orthodox 'alim, can deny its legitimacy.
This tradition clearly brings out the significance of ijtihad in Islam. It must be borne in mind that Islam itself came into existence in a Meccan society which was undergoing basic socio-economic 'changes'. The pre-Islamic or jahiliyah laws not only were becoming obsolete but downright obstacles for further moral, spiritual and material growth of society.Islam needs some serious IJTEHAD
Islam and its laws thus were not the product of a stagnant society but a society which felt a need for transcendence. Islam catered to the spiritual, moral and material needs of this newly emerging society. It gave new principles and laws acutely needed by the people. The Islamic response to the changing needs of the Meccan society was not only material but also moral and spiritual. Since Islam came into existence in a changing society it emphasised the need for dynamism and the principle of ijtihad embodied its spirit of dynamism.
It was the later generation of 'Ulama who while accepting the principle of ijtihad in theory de-emphasised it in practice. They evolved the concept of taqlid (unthinking imitation) in its place though they cannot quote any hadith from the Prophet in its favour. Taqlid, in a stagnant Islamic societies, thus became a widely accepted principle, as pointed out above. However, today all Islamic societies are experiencing fundamental social changes and rethinking on many issues has become very vital
I Spy Hindutva
You mean Hindu architecture never knew in lay work before mohamud ghori started to kill us?
I did not say (or believe that)t Indian tourism map site
http://india.mapsofindia.com/culture/monuments/hawa-mahal.html
Its common sensense not to think that Moghul / muslim brought EVERYTHING or India was not great prior to that.Let us celebrate now after independence EVERYTHING within the LAND of hindusthan .England Muslim , Ancient Indus valley civilisation The greek ,China ,India, Arabs when europe was in dark ages.
Posted by
Shah2
May 11, 2008 05:59 am
Re: # 56You mean Hindu architecture never knew in lay work before mohamud ghori started to kill us?
I did not say (or believe that)t Indian tourism map site
http://india.mapsofindia.com/culture/monuments/hawa-mahal.html
Its common sensense not to think that Moghul / muslim brought EVERYTHING or India was not great prior to that.Let us celebrate now after independence EVERYTHING within the LAND of hindusthan .England Muslim , Ancient Indus valley civilisation The greek ,China ,India, Arabs when europe was in dark ages.
I Spy Hindutva
Laddu ko itna gussa kyon ata hai ..
It may be b/c your families collective memory from too far a distance in the southern india was too overwhelming.
If tejo mahal was indeed so why no such 'mahal' in the south??????????.After all u guys did not even have to face any army....socho
The invading Moslem came 1000yrs ago so about 800 t0 1000A.D. ago ..theek
is taj mahal more than 1000yrs old ...haan ke na
Rajput built Hawa Mahal in Jaipur around 1800 'influenced by Moghul architecture '.How could taj be tejo mahal when muslim had already been in rule for 600 to 800yrs inconsolidated rule...theek
Hawa mahal of Jaipur was built in 1799!!!!!!!!!!!!
A study of Rajput monuments shows that it was strongly influenced by Mughal architecture. However, the Rajputs adapted and used Mughals styles so tastefully in their buildings that it led to the development of a distinct architectural style of great sophistication and imaginative invention. The Rajput style, on one hand, has traditional Hindu elements like the chhatris (small domed canopies, supported by pillars), fluted pillars, lotus and floral patterns, etc., and, on the other hand, it has elements like stone inlay work and arches, which are reflective of the Islamic style of architecture
Posted by
Shah2
May 10, 2008 01:22 pm
#49Laddu ko itna gussa kyon ata hai ..
It may be b/c your families collective memory from too far a distance in the southern india was too overwhelming.
If tejo mahal was indeed so why no such 'mahal' in the south??????????.After all u guys did not even have to face any army....socho
The invading Moslem came 1000yrs ago so about 800 t0 1000A.D. ago ..theek
is taj mahal more than 1000yrs old ...haan ke na
Rajput built Hawa Mahal in Jaipur around 1800 'influenced by Moghul architecture '.How could taj be tejo mahal when muslim had already been in rule for 600 to 800yrs inconsolidated rule...theek
Hawa mahal of Jaipur was built in 1799!!!!!!!!!!!!
A study of Rajput monuments shows that it was strongly influenced by Mughal architecture. However, the Rajputs adapted and used Mughals styles so tastefully in their buildings that it led to the development of a distinct architectural style of great sophistication and imaginative invention. The Rajput style, on one hand, has traditional Hindu elements like the chhatris (small domed canopies, supported by pillars), fluted pillars, lotus and floral patterns, etc., and, on the other hand, it has elements like stone inlay work and arches, which are reflective of the Islamic style of architecture
In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful
Posted by
Shah2
Apr 26, 2008 07:55 am
or the follower is judged by the religion?
In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful
Wonder why ,
cant he refute all the Masadis psychotic 'irrational' behavior of manic depressive syndrome.
I MAY NOT AGREE WITH FEMINISTS OR WOMEN LIB.BUT GOING TO EXTREMISM OF RELIGION IN ORDER TO PRESENT U R ARGUMENT?THERE IS THIS DUAL VIEW CONCERNING IS RELIGION TO BE JUDGED NOT BY ITS FOLLOWER OR RELIGION IS JUDGED BY ITS FOLOWER .
soory the cap was accidently pushed.
Posted by
Shah2
Apr 26, 2008 07:52 am
Studebakers post have disappered.Wonder why ,
cant he refute all the Masadis psychotic 'irrational' behavior of manic depressive syndrome.
I MAY NOT AGREE WITH FEMINISTS OR WOMEN LIB.BUT GOING TO EXTREMISM OF RELIGION IN ORDER TO PRESENT U R ARGUMENT?THERE IS THIS DUAL VIEW CONCERNING IS RELIGION TO BE JUDGED NOT BY ITS FOLLOWER OR RELIGION IS JUDGED BY ITS FOLOWER .
soory the cap was accidently pushed.
Harold and Kumar Escape From Gitmo
but all things cannot be trivialised and sugar coated .
atleast from the victom pov!
B.J. why kumar /or is it Kumhar ;)
Posted by
Shah2
Apr 25, 2008 09:30 pm
Its o.k. to relax and lighten up.but all things cannot be trivialised and sugar coated .
atleast from the victom pov!
B.J. why kumar /or is it Kumhar ;)
Akbar and Alexander
you rat worshipping rat themselves,penis monkey worshipping dark madrasi heng smelling pea brain retard turd is all code coolie is that you can say for your self !
Posted by
Shah2
Apr 21, 2008 01:26 pm
The only way to talk to you 'A gay A' And nkg(gandu )at your putrid level you rat worshipping rat themselves,penis monkey worshipping dark madrasi heng smelling pea brain retard turd is all code coolie is that you can say for your self !
Akbar and Alexander
Govt are known to manufacture reason too
dont be naive just do little more reading universally besides exclusively
In India specifically the power of Govt was instigator in 84 remeber the 'rijivs justificatio" jab bara per gire ga to dhamak hoga hi "
In Gujrat ,Mumbai ,Hashimpura to name few not only govt machiniray was involved in supporting but in most cases perpetrator are not caught or punished just golgle Tehlka report instead of History.
"I am not supporting any blood thirsty be it Akbar, Amar or Anthony" I repeat
You claim to be so innocent then why the warrior class Rajput is placed only second to Brahmin.
Gandhi had never seen Shiv Sena, Ranvir Sena, Rss Modi ,Tytler to name few to theorise Hindus are meek compared to muslim!! Yea they were and are JUSTICE OF PEACE ??Lol
Define collateral damage ? then You are justifying Naxal ,Ltte killing ,Hiroshima,christian Crusade ,
One mans collateral damage is another mans genocide.The killer shoots the target not making sure no one else is hurt .JUST concentrating on his goal.Every killer is CARPET bomber .
Killersare not trained to be surgeons to make surgical incision.All the rest are butchers only Period...
Posted by
Shah2
Apr 20, 2008 02:31 am
What did Jews ,Palestinian do .they are in there house fighting intrusion,what did the Moors to deserve spanish inquisition?Govt are known to manufacture reason too
dont be naive just do little more reading universally besides exclusively
In India specifically the power of Govt was instigator in 84 remeber the 'rijivs justificatio" jab bara per gire ga to dhamak hoga hi "
In Gujrat ,Mumbai ,Hashimpura to name few not only govt machiniray was involved in supporting but in most cases perpetrator are not caught or punished just golgle Tehlka report instead of History.
"I am not supporting any blood thirsty be it Akbar, Amar or Anthony" I repeat
You claim to be so innocent then why the warrior class Rajput is placed only second to Brahmin.
Gandhi had never seen Shiv Sena, Ranvir Sena, Rss Modi ,Tytler to name few to theorise Hindus are meek compared to muslim!! Yea they were and are JUSTICE OF PEACE ??Lol
Define collateral damage ? then You are justifying Naxal ,Ltte killing ,Hiroshima,christian Crusade ,
One mans collateral damage is another mans genocide.The killer shoots the target not making sure no one else is hurt .JUST concentrating on his goal.Every killer is CARPET bomber .
Killersare not trained to be surgeons to make surgical incision.All the rest are butchers only Period...
Akbar and Alexander
I dont know if Akbar killed just b/c one was Hindu/innocent civilian.or It is your genious brain making a theory without
proving
1)Muslimalways kill innocent
2/Non muslims NEVER kill Muslims just B/c they are Muslims..Gujrat ,Hashim pura
3/Innocent are never killed by any other except Muslims
either you are blind with rage for whatever reason or fanatic communalist.
"Uncultured, uncivilized barbarian M*****f****** excrement worms had the AUDACITY to kill innocent civilians JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE HINDUS"
How can be unbiasedly prove that no /not even single innocent civilian were not killed in ANY battle including NOT only ASHOKA'S
YOU are are a ridiculous insane theorist like Hitler .
"May 17: U.S. Rep. Jack Murtha accused U.S. Marines Wednesday of killing innocent Iraqi civilians "in cold blood." NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports from the Pentagon.
Nightly News"
I am not supporting any blood thirsty be it Akbar, Amar or Anthony but kiiling some one of OTHER community is rule not exception Not religous different but within same religion among muslim..Shias /Sunnis and
among Hindus be it sate wise Hindu Killing,lingual .. sikh ONLY b/c they are sikhs?
When ppl. get MAD like you are capable of killing just b/c they are muslims too.
Keep your theory to yourself otherwise apply for P.HD in it at Benares Hindu Univ.
If you substitue Akbar with Govt sponsored like Hujrat Mumbai or Govt anywhere and opponent being of oposite of power of gov. this happens.Ranbir sena kill Dalits ONLY b/c they are Dalits .Proleteriate kill Bourgiose only b/c they are so.....
Just remember every thing comunalism ,riots, slaughter massacre are all equal oppertunity employer .
Posted by
Shah2
Apr 19, 2008 04:45 pm
#28AJay AI dont know if Akbar killed just b/c one was Hindu/innocent civilian.or It is your genious brain making a theory without
proving
1)Muslimalways kill innocent
2/Non muslims NEVER kill Muslims just B/c they are Muslims..Gujrat ,Hashim pura
3/Innocent are never killed by any other except Muslims
either you are blind with rage for whatever reason or fanatic communalist.
"Uncultured, uncivilized barbarian M*****f****** excrement worms had the AUDACITY to kill innocent civilians JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE HINDUS"
How can be unbiasedly prove that no /not even single innocent civilian were not killed in ANY battle including NOT only ASHOKA'S
YOU are are a ridiculous insane theorist like Hitler .
"May 17: U.S. Rep. Jack Murtha accused U.S. Marines Wednesday of killing innocent Iraqi civilians "in cold blood." NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports from the Pentagon.
Nightly News"
I am not supporting any blood thirsty be it Akbar, Amar or Anthony but kiiling some one of OTHER community is rule not exception Not religous different but within same religion among muslim..Shias /Sunnis and
among Hindus be it sate wise Hindu Killing,lingual .. sikh ONLY b/c they are sikhs?
When ppl. get MAD like you are capable of killing just b/c they are muslims too.
Keep your theory to yourself otherwise apply for P.HD in it at Benares Hindu Univ.
If you substitue Akbar with Govt sponsored like Hujrat Mumbai or Govt anywhere and opponent being of oposite of power of gov. this happens.Ranbir sena kill Dalits ONLY b/c they are Dalits .Proleteriate kill Bourgiose only b/c they are so.....
Just remember every thing comunalism ,riots, slaughter massacre are all equal oppertunity employer .
Akbar and Alexander
. Chess was only a part of this knowledge, packaged together with earlier mathematical, astronomical, philosophical or medical achievements.
However, we know that while chess flourished in Baghdad in the 9th century, the earliest reliable account of chess-playing in India date only from the 11th century
Posted by
Shah2
Apr 18, 2008 06:00 pm
Muslim writers stated quite frequently that they took the game of "shatranj/sh" from the Iranians, who called it "chatrang". . Chess was only a part of this knowledge, packaged together with earlier mathematical, astronomical, philosophical or medical achievements.
However, we know that while chess flourished in Baghdad in the 9th century, the earliest reliable account of chess-playing in India date only from the 11th century
Akbar and Alexander
You may be right one was not as great or equal to other ,but no body is saying there achievement were identical.Alexander is every bodies historical figure ..europe mideast asia
where as Akbar was just 3 rd in line of Moghul who had already established an empie only Akbar to expanded it .
I know you hate as intensely as Arjun /Laddu etc but i dont blame for what has been done to you
Posted by
Shah2
Apr 18, 2008 11:38 am
Kul is your perspective tainted by the influence of your better half ....or dislike of sunni indo pak now and in the past.???You may be right one was not as great or equal to other ,but no body is saying there achievement were identical.Alexander is every bodies historical figure ..europe mideast asia
where as Akbar was just 3 rd in line of Moghul who had already established an empie only Akbar to expanded it .
I know you hate as intensely as Arjun /Laddu etc but i dont blame for what has been done to you
I thick therefore I am
Husband bola: Aadmi osi ko maarta hai jis se wo pyar
kerta hai!!!!!
Wife ne husband ko 2 thappar mare or boli !
Aap kia samjhate hain mein app se pyar ni kerti
Posted by
Shah2
Dec 3, 2007 04:12 pm
THAPPAR MARNY PAR NARAZ WIFE SE Husband bola: Aadmi osi ko maarta hai jis se wo pyar
kerta hai!!!!!
Wife ne husband ko 2 thappar mare or boli !
Aap kia samjhate hain mein app se pyar ni kerti
Kolkata on Fire
Muslims should not be paid back in Indian coins but American dollars. They are already getting paid back. In USD
.............................
What kind of gibberish is that
Posted by
Shah2
Nov 26, 2007 09:31 am
#63 Posted by einsteinwallah on November 25, 2007 10:06:21 am Muslims should not be paid back in Indian coins but American dollars. They are already getting paid back. In USD
.............................
What kind of gibberish is that
Kolkata on Fire
So did muslims of India.
We are sorry for what Hindu went through in East Pakistan ,& west pakistan
Division of Bengal was not with the consensus of Bengali muslims.Significant number of them Hmayun Kabir, Mohsin of Hoogly Shah nawaz khan,A Ghani Khan Chowdhry ..& dist Muslim significant muslim populatin Murshidabad Nadia Burdwan as well many secular muslims undid bengali partition of bengal in 1930 you prolly too ignorant to know bengal partition has been on again off again event.NOT like west pakistan with you south Indians and BJP s opsessed with.
Do you know how to sing JanaGana Mana ????or if you are hindi walla why dont you sing Sare Jahan Se Acha.
Personaly i have no objection to any national anthem Bande Matram included.For convenience sake you are non bengalis of calcutta and bengals are wrapping youself in national flaglike like a scoundrel being lazy u r self.
Before criticizing any partiticular community speake for your self
is your only contribution is to bring down other community or you can any thing positive about YOURSELF
Posted by
Shah2
Nov 26, 2007 09:29 am
"When India was divided many Hindus stayed back in East Pakistan"So did muslims of India.
We are sorry for what Hindu went through in East Pakistan ,& west pakistan
Division of Bengal was not with the consensus of Bengali muslims.Significant number of them Hmayun Kabir, Mohsin of Hoogly Shah nawaz khan,A Ghani Khan Chowdhry ..& dist Muslim significant muslim populatin Murshidabad Nadia Burdwan as well many secular muslims undid bengali partition of bengal in 1930 you prolly too ignorant to know bengal partition has been on again off again event.NOT like west pakistan with you south Indians and BJP s opsessed with.
Do you know how to sing JanaGana Mana ????or if you are hindi walla why dont you sing Sare Jahan Se Acha.
Personaly i have no objection to any national anthem Bande Matram included.For convenience sake you are non bengalis of calcutta and bengals are wrapping youself in national flaglike like a scoundrel being lazy u r self.
Before criticizing any partiticular community speake for your self
is your only contribution is to bring down other community or you can any thing positive about YOURSELF
Kolkata on Fire
You know the actually hit man those who act so 0r drive one to voluntary klll oneself is held 'less' culpable than his financier
Posted by
Shah2
Nov 26, 2007 09:05 am
Todi a non bengali is 100% responsible from cantacting sauravs brother for access to i.G. spending lakhs of his 200 Crores to let it be known to dozen of criminal miscreants with lure of money to do the 'Necessary'You know the actually hit man those who act so 0r drive one to voluntary klll oneself is held 'less' culpable than his financier
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