Men\'s Liberation...Better Late Than Never
in other words, you are too embarrassed to admit that you were corrected for your eggregious stereotype. perhaps dr. sohail can delineate this aspect of male pathology-the inability to admit one is wrong.
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neembu
Feb 29, 2008 03:20 pm
Re: # 37in other words, you are too embarrassed to admit that you were corrected for your eggregious stereotype. perhaps dr. sohail can delineate this aspect of male pathology-the inability to admit one is wrong.
Men\'s Liberation...Better Late Than Never
Excuse me-but you made claims in your last post. Kindly review these claims in light of the Catal Huyuk settlements, ukp.
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neembu
Feb 29, 2008 10:14 am
Re: # 35Excuse me-but you made claims in your last post. Kindly review these claims in light of the Catal Huyuk settlements, ukp.
Men\'s Liberation...Better Late Than Never
The "interactor" "Hurricane" has been challenged on his stupid and ill informed notion that female deities had not existed in the Near East and in researching the Catal Huyuk settlements, will be shown for the charlatan he is. Thank you.
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neembu
Feb 29, 2008 03:11 am
To reiterate:The "interactor" "Hurricane" has been challenged on his stupid and ill informed notion that female deities had not existed in the Near East and in researching the Catal Huyuk settlements, will be shown for the charlatan he is. Thank you.
Men\'s Liberation...Better Late Than Never
Actually, it might serve your own clearly considerable educational background (*) to learn about the Catal Huyuk settlements. Pray tell google them and report back to us their significance in the Near East, thanks!
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neembu
Feb 29, 2008 03:03 am
Re: # 27Actually, it might serve your own clearly considerable educational background (*) to learn about the Catal Huyuk settlements. Pray tell google them and report back to us their significance in the Near East, thanks!
Men\'s Liberation...Better Late Than Never
this is as laughable as ranger's grievances against dalit exam candidates who scored higher than him and were accepted into post grad programs.
It is a gross, incredibly base act to imply that violence caused to men by women is equal to the violence caused to men by women. As with any institution, each charge needs to be investigated. But only a total faakir would claim that laws that protect women against dometic violence are illegal and used for illegal purposes.
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neembu
Feb 28, 2008 06:42 am
Re: # 11this is as laughable as ranger's grievances against dalit exam candidates who scored higher than him and were accepted into post grad programs.
It is a gross, incredibly base act to imply that violence caused to men by women is equal to the violence caused to men by women. As with any institution, each charge needs to be investigated. But only a total faakir would claim that laws that protect women against dometic violence are illegal and used for illegal purposes.
Men\'s Liberation...Better Late Than Never
really? how do women in Pakistani urban societies "dominate" men? are the nation's laws somehow not applicable in cities?
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neembu
Feb 28, 2008 03:54 am
Re: # 6really? how do women in Pakistani urban societies "dominate" men? are the nation's laws somehow not applicable in cities?
Men\'s Liberation...Better Late Than Never
Feminist scholars like Dr. Leila Ahmed and Dr. Amina Wadud have pointed out that certain periods of Islamic empire like the Abbasid period codified the marginalization of women. This interpretation was a departure from the First Muslim societies in which men and women were each other's clothes. The Abbasid Empire, absorbing all the most conservative and self serving cultural practices of several Meditterean civillizations preceding it (including Byzantium, Mesopotamia, Greek Hellenism), arguably made women minorities within their own birth religion.
You touched upon this why many men refuse to question this curious interpretation, and that is their refusal to relinquish share holding of the power accorded to them by societal dominant voice. In other words, why would a man refute or dissent with interpretation (as wrongful as that interpretation may be) that codified his own patriarchical position within his marriage, household, community, country?
Patriarchy, like any unequal system, must be maintained through constant psychological as well as institutional vigilance.
Thus, the very action of a man breaking with this psychological (and literal) hegemony is to threaten the hegemony itself. As an example, a male relative was talking to a white colleague at work. During this conversation, the colleague casually referred to an African American colleague as a "n*****". This relative told the colleague that he could not continue the conversation and walked away. The relative in discussing this later was angered that the white colleague asked him to participate in, accept and approve of his racist speech. No doubt, the relative continued, in the future, he would be considered a "n***** lover" by the white colleague and those who agreed with the white colleague.
My observation is to point out how entrenched these pathologies can be and how they are policed by members of the dominating society. Any comments?
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neembu
Feb 28, 2008 03:40 am
Dr. Sahib,Feminist scholars like Dr. Leila Ahmed and Dr. Amina Wadud have pointed out that certain periods of Islamic empire like the Abbasid period codified the marginalization of women. This interpretation was a departure from the First Muslim societies in which men and women were each other's clothes. The Abbasid Empire, absorbing all the most conservative and self serving cultural practices of several Meditterean civillizations preceding it (including Byzantium, Mesopotamia, Greek Hellenism), arguably made women minorities within their own birth religion.
You touched upon this why many men refuse to question this curious interpretation, and that is their refusal to relinquish share holding of the power accorded to them by societal dominant voice. In other words, why would a man refute or dissent with interpretation (as wrongful as that interpretation may be) that codified his own patriarchical position within his marriage, household, community, country?
Patriarchy, like any unequal system, must be maintained through constant psychological as well as institutional vigilance.
Thus, the very action of a man breaking with this psychological (and literal) hegemony is to threaten the hegemony itself. As an example, a male relative was talking to a white colleague at work. During this conversation, the colleague casually referred to an African American colleague as a "n*****". This relative told the colleague that he could not continue the conversation and walked away. The relative in discussing this later was angered that the white colleague asked him to participate in, accept and approve of his racist speech. No doubt, the relative continued, in the future, he would be considered a "n***** lover" by the white colleague and those who agreed with the white colleague.
My observation is to point out how entrenched these pathologies can be and how they are policed by members of the dominating society. Any comments?
Men\'s Liberation...Better Late Than Never
Posted by
neembu
Feb 27, 2008 12:26 pm
Thanks for this article-it's always so good to hear from feminist South Asian men!
Inside you
not necessarily a lesson, just a reminder to consider versions that are radically revised, shook up, read backwards, side wise, etc.
Posted by
neembu
Feb 22, 2008 07:06 am
Re: # 2not necessarily a lesson, just a reminder to consider versions that are radically revised, shook up, read backwards, side wise, etc.
The Emperor is wearing Albanian Clothes
Really? As opposed to the Serbian cross?
Posted by
neembu
Feb 19, 2008 06:41 am
Re: # 3Really? As opposed to the Serbian cross?
Inside you
Color drifts apart from the painter’s brush
the picture, inside you
The ocean turns itself, within, without
the fish, inside you
The bullet leaves the barrel,
Says the suffering: I am inside you
Birds float to another place
wind inside you
The desert shifting pattern
caravans,inside you
As life arrives in the early hours
Death unfolding within you.
Or something along those lines. Try experimenting and breaking out of this poem's structure, see what happens.
Posted by
neembu
Feb 19, 2008 04:16 am
nice! half of these lines need editing out:Color drifts apart from the painter’s brush
the picture, inside you
The ocean turns itself, within, without
the fish, inside you
The bullet leaves the barrel,
Says the suffering: I am inside you
Birds float to another place
wind inside you
The desert shifting pattern
caravans,inside you
As life arrives in the early hours
Death unfolding within you.
Or something along those lines. Try experimenting and breaking out of this poem's structure, see what happens.
The Emperor is wearing Albanian Clothes
Posted by
neembu
Feb 19, 2008 04:03 am
These pieces should be more formally written, in language, content and organization. It is very hard to take what is here seriously given the casual and tangential quality of the text's rhetoric.
My Top Ten Novels by Desi Writers
Could you explain the homoerotic subtext in TGOST to which you allude, using examples? Thanks.
Posted by
neembu
Feb 14, 2008 05:06 am
Naqs Sahib,Could you explain the homoerotic subtext in TGOST to which you allude, using examples? Thanks.
Cynicism Amongst Pakistani Youth
Posted by
neembu
Feb 5, 2008 04:12 am
Interesting idea-thanks for this piece. Are there any addiction education programs in the areas covered in this essay?
It\'s ME on Both Sides!
Posted by
neembu
Jan 26, 2008 03:38 am
nice!
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and New American Dreams
I will say, when all is said in done, Clinton, Edwards and Obama have some great ideas and it IS very exciting to see working class, African American, and women candidates in this race.
Posted by
neembu
Jan 20, 2008 01:37 pm
Thanks for this, Ras!I will say, when all is said in done, Clinton, Edwards and Obama have some great ideas and it IS very exciting to see working class, African American, and women candidates in this race.
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