Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 276 Posted by ajeya on August 26, 2008 2:33:43 pm

Sorry to jump in, but here Hamid Sahib is right.

Recently, I had the misfortune of being at a location where a hindu indian walked by and he smelled terrible with his "itur". Maybe the "itur" did not get along with his body odor, which I am sure the "itur wallah" could recommend a better type of "itur".

All in the group turned their head to look at who just walked by, and how smelley he was. I ended up providing that this person had the misfortune of using some "ituer" and that this was not his body odor.

Hopefully this clarifies some of the issues, generally indian hindus have with their skin odor.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond An article worth reading

The risk of demonising Zardari

"The truth is that Pakistan's institutions are constantly being bludgeoned by the self-righteousness of the urban educated. It is they who provide the military with the legitimacy that allows well-meaning but illegitimate dictatorships to take root. Pakistan can begin its latest journey in democratic discovery the same way in which all previous journeys have begun. By stacking the deck against political parties, and by rejecting their electoral, legal and moral legitimacy. This is simply preparing the ground for the next coup against democracy. It is ok to dislike Mr Zardari, and to oppose his presidency. Liking something does not make it right, and disliking something, does not make it wrong -- Pakistanis confuse the two at their own risk. Demonising Zardari today will have grave consequences for Pakistan's democratic future."

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=132027

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond General Pervez Musharraf�s so-called �enlightened moderation� failed to try to erase religious bigotry, extremism and fanaticism even from paper, yes, even from paper, i.e., from the Constitution of Pakistan. In this regard, please remember the words of General Ziaul Haq on the Constitution of Pakistan; when he had said that it is a bit of paper to which he can throw in the dustbin at his Will. Yes, the poison of religious bigotry, extremism and fanaticism is rooted in the Article 2 of the Constitution of Pakistan, wherein it is written that �Islam shall be the State Religion of Pakistan.� The first step was to root out the constitutional roots of such poison by repealing Article 2 and then enacting that Religion shall have nothing to do with the business of State; and that the Parliament shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Be that as it may, now, General Pervez Musharraf has resigned; and the point of concern is that till writing of these lines no political party sitting in the Parliament of Pakistan has deemed it fit and proper to even point out such a poison. So the conduct of the political parties sitting in the parliament is cruel and doubtful. How does the State Religion of Pakistan help to root out such poison? Even no one from Bush Government has publicly pointed out the constitutional roots of such a poison; so the question of rooting it out does not arise at all. Thus Religious Terrorism will continue to live with full force. Now, it is the time to SAY NO TO THE STATE RELIGION OF PAKISTAN. Now, it is the time to amend the Article - 2 of the Constitution of Pakistan in the befitting manner saying that religion shall have nothing to do with business of the State. If the present Parliament of Pakistan, at first, succeeds to purge that poison out of the Constitution; only then, it can be said with sure, that such act would help us to further flush it out of our society. There is no other constitutional, non-violent and peaceful way to deal with such poison.

Posted by Ghulam Mustafa Lakho | August 21, 2008 2:43 PM


http://thecurrent.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/08/musharrafs-resignation. php#comments

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 144 Posted by akcheema on August 24, 2008 5:07:32 pm

akcheema sahib,

[Now I am made to feel guilty for not pushing the issue hard enough at the time!!]

array bhai kiyoun koi bachaey ho? or are you a punjabi? why are you feeling guilty? made to feel guilty!? for what? i am not a shrink, but you may need to get yourself checked out. it seems that you have an "external locus of control" which might need some calibration. don't ask me what this is? i just learnt it myself recently.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 136 Posted by rf786 on August 24, 2008 11:50:33 am

rf sahib,

[Any suggestions on what the Pak Govt can do to reduce this 40% cost disadvantage?] My answer is fire 40% of government employees (management types, please)

government employees are the scourge of that wretched society.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 123 Posted by rf786 on August 24, 2008 10:24:24 am

rf sahib,

[Pakistan Khappay ya naa khappay.] for me, pakistan khappay, provided punjabiat totally defanged.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 122 Posted by hamidm2 on August 24, 2008 10:18:32 am

hamid mian,

[.. soon i will have a houseful of nieces and nephews ..]

so your tribe is coming? wow, we will have more voters for the republicans.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 70 Posted by zeemax on August 23, 2008 8:57:55 am

Zee,

[JUI/ANP/MQM are complicit with PPP. Judges will not be restored.]

And where are those from PML-Q?

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Hamid mian,

Have you read this article?

What to Do About Pakistan
By Robert Tracinski

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/what_to_do_about_ pakistan.html

So we can send a not-so-subtle message to the government of Pakistan: cooperate with us in suppressing the Taliban, rooting out al-Qaeda, and supporting the government of Afghanistan--or wake up in a year or two and find yourself encircled by an Indian-Afghan alliance backed by the United States.

The radical Islamists do not make rational calculations about their interests, because their interests are inherently irrational: as they like to remind us, they love death. But there are enough people in positions of authority in Pakistan--in the military and in parliament--who do make rational calculations, and they will quickly add up the numbers and grasp the situation that we have the power to impose on them.

If they see that the Taliban is a losing cause in Afghanistan, and that the punishment for backing the wrong horse will be the projection of a US-Afghan insurgency into Pakistan, combined with the threat of encirclement by India--then we have every reason to believe that they will suddenly grasp that their interests lie in being good allies to the United States.

Robert Tracinski writes daily commentary at TIADaily.com. He is the editor of The Intellectual Activist and TIADaily.com.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 42 Posted by hamidm2 on August 22, 2008 9:59:29 am

hamid mian,

you say....{jaisa mun waisee chapair!}...So, are you promoting varying degrees of chapairs? How are you going to enforce uniformity?

My Dear President Musharraf Re: # 58 Posted by quin on August 19, 2008 12:22:54 pm

array bhai, you are full of nonsensical emotions. You must be a mohajir. Are you?

My Dear President Musharraf Re: # 34 Posted by shansiddiqui on August 18, 2008 8:16:26 pm

[By the way are you too scared of using your real name just in case somebody might come and "get you"?]

jee haun. mqm kay goonday hur jaga pur mojood jo hain. sirf abhi tak amerika walloun ko mauloom nahin kay yey mohajiroun ka group sirf aur sirf goonda gurdi jaanteh hain.

aap nay durst phurmaya, bhai gaali galouch or woh bhi cyber space mein koi mqm walloh say hee seekhay. bhayaa, aap logoun kay pass koy akal kee baat ho to hum jaaney?

aap logoun kay pass sirf dada geeri aur badmaashi hain? akal wakal mafia wallon kay pass kahan hoti hain.

[there is nothing like a Sindhi, Punjabi, Mohajir, Baloch or Pathan, either you are a Pakistani or you aren't.]

Waa bhai wah, kiya khhob aap nay apni akal ka estamaal kiya. Phir say aap loag Pakistan main tumaasha dekhanay chalain hain? yeh saarey chaar provinces kaa kiya kijeeay gaa?

[Its about time we put the whole provincial and racial thing to bed once and for all.]

yaar aap tou kouch kehteh hain aur aap ka pir sahib kouch aur kehtah hai. zara aap jaa kar mushwara kijeeay gaa. phir demag pur zore na dijeay gaa, kiyoun kay sub pakee pakai khiyalaat tou aap ko pir sahib say hee melaygee.

My Dear President Musharraf Re: # 26 Posted by HP on August 18, 2008 7:26:28 pm

[Kahan kahan say yeah pagal moonh utha kar chalay aatay hain!]

punjab say, ya phir yeah sub mohajir houngay....aaj kal einkee thouri see jal rahi hain!

Long Live Pakistan hamid mian,

as far as pakistan's internal politics are concerned, i consider you as more knowledgeable than me. it seems that now you are suggesting that there will be a military coup. what makes you so sure?

And then there was The Impeachment Issue… Re: # 355 Posted by zeemax on August 13, 2008 5:15:59 am

Zee, kamal hai bhai you are asking

{Now why would mutarraf's greatest defenders who held the 12 May khoon ki holi to win the great mutarraf's favour abstain?}

Because, Alt-F is knows goonda-gurdy only and not politics. MQM has been cornered by the two great politicians of our times.

And then there was The Impeachment Issue… In SA, we do not need MQM at all. It just goes to show that Alt-F is becoming irrelevant. Hopefully, PPP would soon realize this and get rid of this coalition partner in Sindh.