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Letter from Pakistan
Posted by nehal Jul 5, 2007 11:45 pm
Trusting pakistanis to elect rational human beings,
hmmm well let`s see

hmmmm

ok, may be like of Zulfiqar ali bhuttu who would rather break pakistan and let the army kill millions of banaglis than be able to share (err... let bangalis) rule the pakistan.

or may be banazir bhutu with her highness husband to rob pakistan of its remains ..
or nawaz sharif... but wait we have a cricketer as well.... no no mullah umar possibly have immigrated to nwfp now.
No, with nuke on your hands, you gotta be ruled by someone who we think is in our control until we loose that trust, after that possibly some part of teeth to identify the remains and off we go with another dictator...
Allama Iqbal- Is he still relevant?
Posted by nehal Jul 5, 2007 11:32 pm
Look, the guy was confused, died long time before Pakistan was being hatched by britain, the best i can say is he was a copycat of Nietzche ( compare momen ``the overman`` / Ubermensch, even his thinking pose ). Only that he went the opposite of what Nietzche line of thoughts were.

Anyhow in the absence of any leading figure within Punjab of pakistan, Iqbal fit perfectly for the early dictatros, in my opinion this fabrication of a leader has caused most of the problems for the region, first thougts of past glories were ingrained in the mind of youths, making them go back to the roots, and what roots it has taken us to one may ask, misguided support of taliban, kashmir insurgents, kargil, and now lal masjid.

Most of these folks are now disillusioned, which leave the illitrates to now take the meshal (torche) , and you see the whole talibanization of the region through force and terror.

Now where does this leave us, can`t think of any other way but a turkish style kamal ata turk that could force the secular up everyone`s ass, the alternate is a nuke strap to potbeley of mullahs raining down on earth !
Islamic Education, Madrassah Reform, Rationality and Dawkins
Posted by nehal Jul 5, 2007 10:51 pm

>>>>......
At the moment even the best scholars I`ve heard speak base their arguments on logic which even a bright undergrad student of philosophy could refute since they are the same arguments made by medieval scholars. Arguments which Hume and Kant etc. refuted amongst others (e.g. the First Cause argument or the Design Argument and which Dawkins, in his excellent recent polemic, The God Delusion has again refuted).
....... <<<<<

First islam has to come to terms with the fact that it is also based on the same pretense that other religions of its time were based on and will face the same arguments as others get.

Essentially, other religions have retracted to the realm of individual or mass hullicination i.e., I as a person cannot accept that god is dead, hence I believe, though you are free to not follow me and I wouldn`t bomb you to pieces for that.

.....

``Where has God gone?`` he cried. ``I shall tell you. We have killed him - you and I. We are his murderers. But how have we done this? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What did we do when we unchained the earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from all suns? Are we not perpetually falling? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there any up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is it not more and more night coming on all the time? Must not lanterns be lit in the morning? Do we not hear anything yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God`s decomposition? Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whosoever shall be born after us - for the sake of this deed he shall be part of a higher history than all history hitherto.``
Nietzche


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Pakistan – The Threat From Within
Posted by nehal Jul 5, 2007 10:26 pm
Folks, mushy is the least of your problems, you have in front of you a 14th centruy old monster trying to engulf the whole region with darkness, Now is the time to close all madaris across the country, and force these so called imams to earn daily bread for themselves, who needs these illiterates anyway reciting gabla gook without any understanding of it, allow only M.A. in islamic studies from universities to be able to work as Imam of a masjid [filter/ijtihad all the jihad from the courses] , the nation has to stop funding these potbellys.
encourage some freedom in fatith
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php

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