Dhokha and Being a Muslim in India
One Hindu has killed himself from the Amarnath Sangharsh Samiti against the statement by Omar Abdullah.
Believe me, Amarnath issue is going to be much bigger than these Kashmiri momeens think. If they can die for it , hindus are ready to die for Amarnath.
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laddu
Jul 23, 2008 05:30 pm
I have lived in Jammu for some time.One Hindu has killed himself from the Amarnath Sangharsh Samiti against the statement by Omar Abdullah.
Believe me, Amarnath issue is going to be much bigger than these Kashmiri momeens think. If they can die for it , hindus are ready to die for Amarnath.
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that is why the mullahs hate west.........because the western civilization is ensuring that the present day munafiqoons do not become sunnah compliant momeens!!!
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laddu
Jul 20, 2008 06:26 pm
What I see in the present crisis in Islam is the fight over munafiqoons ........ the mulahs fighting to 'convert' the munafiqoons to sunnah compliant momeens...... whereas the western influences ensure that the munafiqoons become murtids irreversibly........that is why the mullahs hate west.........because the western civilization is ensuring that the present day munafiqoons do not become sunnah compliant momeens!!!
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Prophet is relegated to just a post man who was useful for the delivery of message and once the message is delivered his utility ends!!!
Of course, You do not "Love Postman". Do you?
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laddu
Jul 20, 2008 06:16 pm
The existence of Type 1 Kafir-Sufis clearly does not the requirement of "Loving Prophet" - it jettisons Prophet and talks mainly about "Loving Allah".Prophet is relegated to just a post man who was useful for the delivery of message and once the message is delivered his utility ends!!!
Of course, You do not "Love Postman". Do you?
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1. The clearly Kafir-Sufis, most of the time protected and surrounded by kafirs, who do not care about Sunnat even publically.
2. The muslim sounding Munafique-Sufis, most of the time surrounded by momeens, who sometimes have to make pronouncements about Sunnat in a strategy called reverse-taquiyya. Nonetheless, Sunnis still see through this reverse-taquiyya and rightly call them mushriques.
India now houses Sufis of type 1 who do not have to worry about the muslims in order to be on the path of Fanaa. Mullahs have already declared under Fatwa that muslims should not go to the mazars of these sufis and pray without any effect because it does not effect the kafir bhaktas who come to the mazar and keep the sufi shrine well maintained.
Type 2 Sufis are under constant threat by mullah Islam and barely thrive independently. They constantly look towards the Indian-Sufis and realize that they are under stranglehold of Sunni Mullahs in Pakistan.
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laddu
Jul 20, 2008 06:16 pm
There are two types of Sufis-1. The clearly Kafir-Sufis, most of the time protected and surrounded by kafirs, who do not care about Sunnat even publically.
2. The muslim sounding Munafique-Sufis, most of the time surrounded by momeens, who sometimes have to make pronouncements about Sunnat in a strategy called reverse-taquiyya. Nonetheless, Sunnis still see through this reverse-taquiyya and rightly call them mushriques.
India now houses Sufis of type 1 who do not have to worry about the muslims in order to be on the path of Fanaa. Mullahs have already declared under Fatwa that muslims should not go to the mazars of these sufis and pray without any effect because it does not effect the kafir bhaktas who come to the mazar and keep the sufi shrine well maintained.
Type 2 Sufis are under constant threat by mullah Islam and barely thrive independently. They constantly look towards the Indian-Sufis and realize that they are under stranglehold of Sunni Mullahs in Pakistan.
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"a Muslim is proud to be a slave of Allah, (and in case of sufis, a slave of Prophet Muhammad), .."
This is incorrect.
For a Sunni Mullah , his Hadith remain the point of difference between Type 1 and himself .
For a Sunni Mullah even Allah is a slave of Mohammad and Mohammad is almost (if not superior) to Allah. But for Type 1 Sufi, Mohammad is just a postman and Allah and his one-ness is the only message that is important.
Remember, even Muhammad's young bride Aisha once said sarcastically on Muhammad's revelations "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires"!!
Type 1 just has almost no use for Mohammad. Type 1 also uses his own methods of praying and worship (Sadhana) that are not to be found in Sunnah!!
Posted by
laddu
Jul 20, 2008 06:13 pm
Re: # 298"a Muslim is proud to be a slave of Allah, (and in case of sufis, a slave of Prophet Muhammad), .."
This is incorrect.
For a Sunni Mullah , his Hadith remain the point of difference between Type 1 and himself .
For a Sunni Mullah even Allah is a slave of Mohammad and Mohammad is almost (if not superior) to Allah. But for Type 1 Sufi, Mohammad is just a postman and Allah and his one-ness is the only message that is important.
Remember, even Muhammad's young bride Aisha once said sarcastically on Muhammad's revelations "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires"!!
Type 1 just has almost no use for Mohammad. Type 1 also uses his own methods of praying and worship (Sadhana) that are not to be found in Sunnah!!
An Ode Called Amritsar
"Once a Muslim, always a Muslim - in thought, deed, and identity - no matter what."
That is false!! The moment a momeen child takes to western education and wears jeans and T Shirt (especially women folk) you have a munafiqoon getting created in the so called Islami country.
And more muslims are taking to western education than madarassa education.
More muslim munafiqoons are getting created than real Sunnat professing madarassa educated momeens.
The rate at which the munafiqoons are completely leaving Islam and becoming murtids is greater that those munafiqoons who ae becoming sunnat following momeens.!!
The murtids are increasing - despite propaganda of Islamists!! It is a silent and irreversible revolution in the momeen world that is soon going to be the biggest probelm for the Islamists!!
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laddu
Jul 20, 2008 06:07 pm
Re: # 125"Once a Muslim, always a Muslim - in thought, deed, and identity - no matter what."
That is false!! The moment a momeen child takes to western education and wears jeans and T Shirt (especially women folk) you have a munafiqoon getting created in the so called Islami country.
And more muslims are taking to western education than madarassa education.
More muslim munafiqoons are getting created than real Sunnat professing madarassa educated momeens.
The rate at which the munafiqoons are completely leaving Islam and becoming murtids is greater that those munafiqoons who ae becoming sunnat following momeens.!!
The murtids are increasing - despite propaganda of Islamists!! It is a silent and irreversible revolution in the momeen world that is soon going to be the biggest probelm for the Islamists!!
An Ode Called Amritsar
"Hakim Unani dawakhana"
What has Unan to do with Arabia?
Why is it not called "Islami dawa"??
The fact is that Islam was a bedoiun civilization where the cure for almost everything was in Camel's urine and milk.
No frking vegetable or medicine grew in that arabic desert and they had to get Vaidyas and Hakims from other lands!!
Posted by
laddu
Jul 20, 2008 05:59 pm
Re: # 106"Hakim Unani dawakhana"
What has Unan to do with Arabia?
Why is it not called "Islami dawa"??
The fact is that Islam was a bedoiun civilization where the cure for almost everything was in Camel's urine and milk.
No frking vegetable or medicine grew in that arabic desert and they had to get Vaidyas and Hakims from other lands!!
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why are you posting on behalf of masadi??
Posted by
laddu
Jul 19, 2008 05:10 am
majumdar ji,why are you posting on behalf of masadi??
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hurricane bhai,
Sab Ishwara ki Kripa hai bahi- aapka kaise hai ?
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laddu
Jul 18, 2008 09:12 pm
Re: # 246hurricane bhai,
Sab Ishwara ki Kripa hai bahi- aapka kaise hai ?
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"BA KHUDA DIWANA BASHAD BA MUHAMMAD HOSHIYAR"
This is absolutely incredible! In all other religions, it is man who worships God but in Islam, it is God who worships man (Muhammad). Yet the Muslims call themselves monotheists! They are surely the worst idolaters on earth.
However, the faithful have found ways of allotting entirely different meaning to the words as suggested by their natural sense, and have, thus, sought refuge behind a mighty wall of self-deception with the help of far-fetched interpretations to prop up their faith, which cannot stand up to the advancing forces of reason. Therefore, they are quick to charge their critics with blasphemy, and are reluctant to accept that Islam is Muhammadanism, and not a monotheistic religion.
Since it is the practice that signifies the value of a principle, I must refer to the following facts to prove the veracity of the meaning of the verse under discussion:
1. Is it not true that praising Muhammad is an integral part of their daily prayers?
2. Haven't the Muslims perfected a form of Muhammad- worship known as "DAROOD?" "MAJLIS-E-DAROOD" which has become a routine affair and is considered the chief source of salvation.
3. All Muslim nations have developed a hymnal form of poetry called "NATIYAKALAAM," exclusively dedicated to the most extravagant adoration of Muhammad.
4. QWAALI is yet another musical mode of worshipping Muhammad. It is highly popular among the SUFIS and their followers.
5. SHAHADA, which is the basic confession for every Muslim, includes the name of Muhammad with that of Allah. In the strict Koranic terminology, it is known as SHIRK i.e. associating someone else with Allah. This is the most dreadful sin because:
"Allah forgives not that anyone should be associated with Him (Allah); less than that He forgives to whomsoever He will. Whoso associate with Allah anything, has gone astray into manifest error." (Women, IV: 115)
Posted by
laddu
Jul 18, 2008 11:51 am
Whenever the word assalaat occurs, it means ritualized prayer, which an inferior i.e. a human offers to God. For example, one may refer to Cow, II: 3, 276, or Women, IV: 161. Therefore, it means worship and "yasallunaa is synonymous with yabudun which also signifies glorification of God. Thus the verse XXXIII: 56 means that Allah and His angels worship Muhammad and so must do the Muslims, but with a worthy salutation. This extraordinary emphasis in relation to Muhammad is the source of the general Muslim attitude, which I described earlier as:"BA KHUDA DIWANA BASHAD BA MUHAMMAD HOSHIYAR"
This is absolutely incredible! In all other religions, it is man who worships God but in Islam, it is God who worships man (Muhammad). Yet the Muslims call themselves monotheists! They are surely the worst idolaters on earth.
However, the faithful have found ways of allotting entirely different meaning to the words as suggested by their natural sense, and have, thus, sought refuge behind a mighty wall of self-deception with the help of far-fetched interpretations to prop up their faith, which cannot stand up to the advancing forces of reason. Therefore, they are quick to charge their critics with blasphemy, and are reluctant to accept that Islam is Muhammadanism, and not a monotheistic religion.
Since it is the practice that signifies the value of a principle, I must refer to the following facts to prove the veracity of the meaning of the verse under discussion:
1. Is it not true that praising Muhammad is an integral part of their daily prayers?
2. Haven't the Muslims perfected a form of Muhammad- worship known as "DAROOD?" "MAJLIS-E-DAROOD" which has become a routine affair and is considered the chief source of salvation.
3. All Muslim nations have developed a hymnal form of poetry called "NATIYAKALAAM," exclusively dedicated to the most extravagant adoration of Muhammad.
4. QWAALI is yet another musical mode of worshipping Muhammad. It is highly popular among the SUFIS and their followers.
5. SHAHADA, which is the basic confession for every Muslim, includes the name of Muhammad with that of Allah. In the strict Koranic terminology, it is known as SHIRK i.e. associating someone else with Allah. This is the most dreadful sin because:
"Allah forgives not that anyone should be associated with Him (Allah); less than that He forgives to whomsoever He will. Whoso associate with Allah anything, has gone astray into manifest error." (Women, IV: 115)
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"Allah is the absolute, Owner of praise."
(The Cow, II: 267)
The Prophet Muhammad achieved this ascendancy over Allah through his doctrine of guidance, which is contained in the Cow, II: 1:
"That is the Book (Koran), wherein is no doubt, a guidance to the righteous, who believe in the Unseen, and perform the prayer, and expend of that We (Allah) have provided: who believe in what has been sent down ( i .e. Koran ) to thee ( Muhammad ) and what has been sent down before thee, and have faith in the Hereafter (the Day of Judgement): those are upon guidance from their Lord; those are the ones who prosper."
In this context the key-word is MUTTAQI, which has been translated as Godfearing, pious, those who are afraid of loss" etc. However, in general, it is accepted to mean "righteous." Thus, the Koran guides the righteous only. It is very strange, indeed, because the righteous person is the one, who is already guided by his own good nature. Again, these verses declare that the righteous are those who believe in the Koran and its mythology such as believing in the Unseen and the Day of Judgement, and also offer prayers etc. without raising any question at all. Thus, the Prophet Muhammad banished reasoning from the kingdom of faith, making fanaticism the foundation of his creed.
Having denounced the rational enquiry into matters concerning faith, it was not difficult for Muhammad to raise himself as the greatest Idol of all times. Just see how he did it. He declared:
"You (the believers) have had a good example in
God's Messenger for whosoever hopes for God and
the Last Day .." (The Confederates, XXXIII: 20)
This is how the Prophet appointed himself as the Model of Behaviour for all his followers, who were required to walk, talk, eat, drink, think, dress and physically look like him. He succeeded in this attempt because he further added through the Koran:
"If you (the believers) obey him (the Prophet
Muhammad) you will be guided." (Light, XXIV: 50)
Again,
1. " ...If you love Allah, and follow me
(Muhammad), God will love you, and forgive
you your sins." (The House of Imran, III: 25)
2. "We (Allah) sent not ever any Messenger, but
that he should be obeyed, by the leave of God."
(Women, IV: 65)
Here one can see how the Prophet Muhammad personalised his authority in the name of God. Thus, the Islamic theory of guidance has simply come to mean following Muhammad blindly: any question or hesitation is tantamount to blasphemy, which leads to hell. Small wonder that Allah has receded into the background, making Muhammad the greatest Idol of all times. If this statement is examined carefully, the truth cannot fail to emerge: it is well known that this earth has several time zones, which differ from one another gradually. It means that every moment there is some Muslim who is praying to Muhammad!
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laddu
Jul 18, 2008 11:47 am
The Muslims must realize that the original Koranic principle is:"Allah is the absolute, Owner of praise."
(The Cow, II: 267)
The Prophet Muhammad achieved this ascendancy over Allah through his doctrine of guidance, which is contained in the Cow, II: 1:
"That is the Book (Koran), wherein is no doubt, a guidance to the righteous, who believe in the Unseen, and perform the prayer, and expend of that We (Allah) have provided: who believe in what has been sent down ( i .e. Koran ) to thee ( Muhammad ) and what has been sent down before thee, and have faith in the Hereafter (the Day of Judgement): those are upon guidance from their Lord; those are the ones who prosper."
In this context the key-word is MUTTAQI, which has been translated as Godfearing, pious, those who are afraid of loss" etc. However, in general, it is accepted to mean "righteous." Thus, the Koran guides the righteous only. It is very strange, indeed, because the righteous person is the one, who is already guided by his own good nature. Again, these verses declare that the righteous are those who believe in the Koran and its mythology such as believing in the Unseen and the Day of Judgement, and also offer prayers etc. without raising any question at all. Thus, the Prophet Muhammad banished reasoning from the kingdom of faith, making fanaticism the foundation of his creed.
Having denounced the rational enquiry into matters concerning faith, it was not difficult for Muhammad to raise himself as the greatest Idol of all times. Just see how he did it. He declared:
"You (the believers) have had a good example in
God's Messenger for whosoever hopes for God and
the Last Day .." (The Confederates, XXXIII: 20)
This is how the Prophet appointed himself as the Model of Behaviour for all his followers, who were required to walk, talk, eat, drink, think, dress and physically look like him. He succeeded in this attempt because he further added through the Koran:
"If you (the believers) obey him (the Prophet
Muhammad) you will be guided." (Light, XXIV: 50)
Again,
1. " ...If you love Allah, and follow me
(Muhammad), God will love you, and forgive
you your sins." (The House of Imran, III: 25)
2. "We (Allah) sent not ever any Messenger, but
that he should be obeyed, by the leave of God."
(Women, IV: 65)
Here one can see how the Prophet Muhammad personalised his authority in the name of God. Thus, the Islamic theory of guidance has simply come to mean following Muhammad blindly: any question or hesitation is tantamount to blasphemy, which leads to hell. Small wonder that Allah has receded into the background, making Muhammad the greatest Idol of all times. If this statement is examined carefully, the truth cannot fail to emerge: it is well known that this earth has several time zones, which differ from one another gradually. It means that every moment there is some Muslim who is praying to Muhammad!
An Ode Called Amritsar
Momeens are welcome to take amrit and follow the way of the Gurus.
It is the best way to leave this cult of hate and terror.
Posted by
laddu
Jul 16, 2008 03:18 pm
"........so lost our people, maybe only now we are beginning to find our way again!"Momeens are welcome to take amrit and follow the way of the Gurus.
It is the best way to leave this cult of hate and terror.
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"I declare that Hindus are munafiqoons and should either face the sword or should pay jizya"
saale beti---
Posted by
laddu
Jul 16, 2008 10:24 am
Next time these rascal Pakis are going to make hindus sign -"I declare that Hindus are munafiqoons and should either face the sword or should pay jizya"
saale beti---
An Ode Called Amritsar
During the leadership of the fifth Guru, Guru Arjan Dev (1581-1606), the full-fledged Temple was built.
This is what Emperor Jahangir wrote in his diary called the Tuzk-e-Jahangiri, which translates to "Memoirs of Jahangir"
“ In Goindwal, which is on the river Biyãh (Beas), there was a Hindu named Arjan, in the garments of sainthood and sanctity, so much so that he had captured many of the simple-hearted of the Hindus, and even of the ignorant and foolish followers of Islam, by his ways and manners, and they had loudly sounded the drum of his holiness. They called him Guru, and from all sides stupid people crowded to worship and manifest complete faith in him. For three or four generations (of spiritual successors) they had kept this shop warm. Many times it occurred to me to put a stop to this vain affair or to bring him into the assembly of the people of Islam.
At last when Khusrau passed along this road this insignificant fellow proposed to wait upon him. Khusrau happened to halt at the place where he was, and he came out and did homage to him. He behaved to Khusrau in certain special ways, and made on his forehead a finger-mark in saffron, which the Indians (Hinduwän) call qashqa, (Tilak) and is considered propitious. When this came to my ears and I clearly understood his folly, I ordered them to produce him and handed over his houses, dwelling-places, and children to Murtaza Khan, and having confiscated his property commanded that he should be put to death."
„
Posted by
laddu
Jul 15, 2008 11:12 pm
Originally built during 1574 AD, the site of the temple was surrounded by a small lake in a thin forest. The third of the six grand Mughals, emperor Akbar, who visited the third Sikh Guru, Guru Amar Das, at the neighbouring town of Goindval was so impressed by the way of life in the town that he gave a jagir (the land and the revenues of several villages in the vicinity) to the Guru's daughter Bhani as a gift on her marriage to Bhai Jetha, who later became the fourth Sikh Guru, Guru Ram Das. Guru Ram Das enlarged the lake and built a small township around it. The town was named after Guru Ram Das as "Guru Ka Chak", "Chak Ram Das" or "Ram Das Pura".During the leadership of the fifth Guru, Guru Arjan Dev (1581-1606), the full-fledged Temple was built.
This is what Emperor Jahangir wrote in his diary called the Tuzk-e-Jahangiri, which translates to "Memoirs of Jahangir"
“ In Goindwal, which is on the river Biyãh (Beas), there was a Hindu named Arjan, in the garments of sainthood and sanctity, so much so that he had captured many of the simple-hearted of the Hindus, and even of the ignorant and foolish followers of Islam, by his ways and manners, and they had loudly sounded the drum of his holiness. They called him Guru, and from all sides stupid people crowded to worship and manifest complete faith in him. For three or four generations (of spiritual successors) they had kept this shop warm. Many times it occurred to me to put a stop to this vain affair or to bring him into the assembly of the people of Islam.
At last when Khusrau passed along this road this insignificant fellow proposed to wait upon him. Khusrau happened to halt at the place where he was, and he came out and did homage to him. He behaved to Khusrau in certain special ways, and made on his forehead a finger-mark in saffron, which the Indians (Hinduwän) call qashqa, (Tilak) and is considered propitious. When this came to my ears and I clearly understood his folly, I ordered them to produce him and handed over his houses, dwelling-places, and children to Murtaza Khan, and having confiscated his property commanded that he should be put to death."
„
An Ode Called Amritsar
She sought divine forgiveness for atrocities committed by Mughals on Hindus and Sikhs, at the Golden Temple.
Moved by the tales, and pictures, of Sikh gurus being brutally chastised by Muhgals, Sultana Begum, who runs a tea stall on a footpath of Howrah and receives a paltry pension of Rs 400, undertook a pilgrimage to Amritsar after she received a financial assistance of Rs 50,000 from Swami Chinmayanand, ex-union minister of state for home affairs.
Zafar in his last days The stone at Zafar's grave
"I have come to Amritsar to seek atonement for the sins of my husband's forefathers," Sultana told TNN.
"This morning I went to the Golden Temple and sought pardon from the Almighty for my ancestors' sins and atrocities," she said. She also visited Durgiana Temple here and the dargah of Hazrat Ali Shah at Najibabad in UP for the same purpose.
"Mughal emperors Aurangzeb and Jahangir unleashed terror not only on Sikhs and Hindus but also on Muslims. That's why I went to temples and mosques," Sultana said. She wept on seeing pictures of Sikh gurus undergoing punishment inflicted by Mughals at the Central Sikh Museum. "How can anyone forget that Guru Arjan Dev was burnt on a frying pan during Jahangir's time and the two sahibzadas of Guru Gobind Singh, last Sikh guru, were killed by Aurangzeb? Islam does not permit cruelty against anyone," she said.
"The sins of my husband's forefathers have brought misery upon me. I belong to a royal family, but see the pathetic condition I am in, barely able to manage two meals a day," she said.
Mother of five daughters and a son Muzaffar Kamal, who is a cook in Saudi Arabia, Sultana said political leaders like Chinmaynand, Mamata Banerji, Tapan Sikdar, Tathagata Roy had visited her dingy hut at Foreshore Road, Howrah, "but only Chinmayanandji gave me financial assistance".
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laddu
Jul 15, 2008 11:05 pm
Sultana Begum, Great Granddaughter-in-Law of Bahadur Shah Zafar - the Last MoghulShe sought divine forgiveness for atrocities committed by Mughals on Hindus and Sikhs, at the Golden Temple.
Moved by the tales, and pictures, of Sikh gurus being brutally chastised by Muhgals, Sultana Begum, who runs a tea stall on a footpath of Howrah and receives a paltry pension of Rs 400, undertook a pilgrimage to Amritsar after she received a financial assistance of Rs 50,000 from Swami Chinmayanand, ex-union minister of state for home affairs.
Zafar in his last days The stone at Zafar's grave
"I have come to Amritsar to seek atonement for the sins of my husband's forefathers," Sultana told TNN.
"This morning I went to the Golden Temple and sought pardon from the Almighty for my ancestors' sins and atrocities," she said. She also visited Durgiana Temple here and the dargah of Hazrat Ali Shah at Najibabad in UP for the same purpose.
"Mughal emperors Aurangzeb and Jahangir unleashed terror not only on Sikhs and Hindus but also on Muslims. That's why I went to temples and mosques," Sultana said. She wept on seeing pictures of Sikh gurus undergoing punishment inflicted by Mughals at the Central Sikh Museum. "How can anyone forget that Guru Arjan Dev was burnt on a frying pan during Jahangir's time and the two sahibzadas of Guru Gobind Singh, last Sikh guru, were killed by Aurangzeb? Islam does not permit cruelty against anyone," she said.
"The sins of my husband's forefathers have brought misery upon me. I belong to a royal family, but see the pathetic condition I am in, barely able to manage two meals a day," she said.
Mother of five daughters and a son Muzaffar Kamal, who is a cook in Saudi Arabia, Sultana said political leaders like Chinmaynand, Mamata Banerji, Tapan Sikdar, Tathagata Roy had visited her dingy hut at Foreshore Road, Howrah, "but only Chinmayanandji gave me financial assistance".
An Ode Called Amritsar
do you mean to say it is alluring to momeens like you???
Aank utha kar bhi mat dekhna......... nikal denge hum!!
Posted by
laddu
Jul 15, 2008 10:37 pm
"...gold of the temple is alluring..."do you mean to say it is alluring to momeens like you???
Aank utha kar bhi mat dekhna......... nikal denge hum!!
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