Kolkata on Fire Re nb #25

[Do you really think Ashok Todi could have had Rizwan killed even if he was upper middle class, not poor? And would he have dared think about it if Rizwan had been wealthy?]

Mozzies should be permitted to only marry Mozzie women. Laying eyes on Hindu women should carry the death penalty in India.

Kolkata on Fire Re cliftonbridge #6

[I think India should pawn her off to europe or america where her presence would not lead to the loss of other peoples lives.]

Netherlands, maybe? No, I don't think so. Remember the Prophet Mohammad cartoons?

Nordic countries? No, the Mozzies there are killing their daughters for the crime of being in love with somebody not acceptable to the parents. Ditto for England.

The problem is not India or any other country. The problem is the Mozzies. We need to squash the Mozzies like we squash mosquitoes.

Taking a Gandhian Approach to Avenging the Horrors of Singur and Nandigram Enough of the Gandhian approach.

How about the Jinnah-bhai approach? You know, Direct Action Day, and "Today we have unsheathed the pistol" and the like?

Then we can ask Buddhadeb Bhattacharya, "Do you feel lucky, punk?"

Kolkata on Fire I had previously thought that India should conduct atmospheric neclear tests over Allahabad with Anand Bhavan as the epicenter.

I think all of Waste Bengal should be declared a nuclear free-fire zone. After all tests are completed, the place should be handed over to Bangladesh so that the poor Mozzies can find a dry place to stay in. Really, all of Bangladesh is bound to wash away into the Bay of Bengal some time in the future and those people need some land to live on.

Searching for Qurratulain Hyder in a Delhi Kabristan Note: The following post may be offensive to professors of Muslim Studies and/or professors of North Indian Studies at minor American colleges.

Re hassann #4

[Quratul Ain Haider lived in India where urdu has been neglected over a period of sixty years.]

In India, EVERYTHING is neglected, not just Urdu.

I mean, where is Konkani or Tulu today?

How about Dardi, Balti, et., in Pakistan? They are dying too.

So, don't crib. Even though it is the handicap Muslims are generally born with. Cribbing, that is.

[All across India, you will find regional languages or Hindi on bill boards, road markers, street names, newspapers, radio and TV.]

At Varanasi and Allahabad railway stations, the destination signs are ALSO in Urdu. Probably in Lucknow too and in stations in between. Not that an illiterate Muslim will be able to read it just like an illiterate Hindu won't be able to read the Hindi lettering either.

[Even though urdu is still the most popular language of Indian Cinema, people always call it Hindi. Hearing both languages, it seems like Hindi and urdu are like two sisters but have different clothing.]

You got that. One of them is in a burqa.

[Indian muslims are generally poor and do not read her works.]

Indian muslims are generally illiterate and cannot read her works.

Well, actually, North Indians are generally illiterate and cannot read printed material.

Whither Emergency This is what arjun8 wrote on Unplugged:


from ann coulter...

[HAHA...how badly do you have to fuck up that the only people supporting you are michael weiner savage and ann coulter?

Musharraf: the Tolstoy of the Zulus

By Ann Coulter


http://www.JewishWorldReview.com

If Republicans end up with a divided convention between Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani, I say we pick Gen. Pervez Musharraf.


Musharraf has declared emergency rule in Pakistan, shut down the media and sent Supreme Court justices home. What's not to like about a guy who orders policemen to beat up lawyers? I bet he has a good plan on illegal immigration, too.


The entire history of Pakistan is this: There are lots of crazy people living there, they have nuclear weapons, and any Pakistani leader who prevents the crazies from getting the nukes is George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison all rolled into one.


We didn't hear much about Musharraf — save for B. Hussein Obama's threat to bomb Pakistan without informing Musharraf — until the last few weeks.


Musharraf has been a crucial ally of ours since Sept. 12, 2001. His loyal friendship to the United States while governing a country that is loyal to al-Qaida might prove dispiriting to the terrorists. So, until recently, the media mostly confined stories about Musharraf to page A-18.


Now, with the surge in Iraq working, Democrats are completely demoralized. Al-Qaida was counting on them. (We know the surge in Iraq is working because it is no longer front page news.)


In a tape released in early September, Osama bin Laden bitterly complained, "You elected the Democratic Party for this purpose" — of ending the war in Iraq -- "but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning."


It isn't enough for the media to drop all mentions of the surge or to subsidize ads denouncing Gen. David Petraeus as "General Betray Us." (He IS betraying liberals by winning the war for America, the enemy of liberals.) They need to stir up trouble for the U.S. someplace else in the world.


On Sept. 20, Osama bin Laden cued liberals by issuing another tape demanding Musharraf's ouster. The Democrats and the media quickly followed suit.


Weeks later, The New York Times editorial page called on "masses of Pakistanis" to participate in "peaceful demonstrations" against Musharraf, which would be like calling on masses of Pakistanis to engage in daily bathing (The New York Times editorial page being the most effective way to communicate with the Pakistani masses). Most of the editorial was a mash note to that troublesome woman Benazir Bhutto for demanding democracy in the land of the deranged.


Media darling Bhutto returned to Pakistan after fleeing the country following her conviction for corruption as prime minister. Her conviction was later overturned by the corrupt Pakistani Supreme Court, leaving me to ponder, which is worse: being convicted of corruption in a Pakistani court or being exonerated of corruption in a Pakistani court? She was again convicted in a Swiss court of money laundering.


The media adore Bhutto because she went to Harvard and Oxford, which I consider two more strikes against her. A degree from Harvard is prima facie evidence that she's on the side of the terrorists. I note that Bhutto demonstrates her own deep commitment to democracy by giving herself the title "chairperson for life" of the Pakistan Peoples Party.


Liberals hysterically opposed our imposing a democracy on Iraq and despise Nouri al-Maliki, the democratically elected leader of Iraq. Say, has Maliki ever been convicted in a Swiss court of money laundering?


Compared to Pakistan, imposing democracy in Iraq is like imposing democracy in Darien, Conn. But in Iraq, liberals prefer an anti-American dictator, like Saddam Hussein. Only in Pakistan do liberals yearn for pure democracy.


You wouldn't know it to read the headlines, but Musharraf has not staged a military coup. In fact, he was re-elected — in a landslide — just weeks ago under Pakistan's own parliamentary system.


But the Pakistani Supreme Court, like our own Supreme Court, believes it is above the president and refused to acknowledge Musharraf's election on the grounds that he is disqualified because he is still wearing a military uniform. That's when Musharraf sent them home.


Musharraf's election was certainly more legitimate than that of Syrian president Bashar Assad (with whom every leading Democrat has had a photo-op) or Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (adjunct professor at Columbia University) or Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez (loon).


Where were the headlines like this week's Economist's ("Time's up, Mr. Musharraf";) about those lovable rogues? They hate America, so they can stay.


The last time liberals were this enthusiastic about popular rule in some Third World country was in 1979, when they were gushing about Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in Iran. Professor Richard Falk of Princeton University assured liberals in a 1979 New York Times op-ed that the "depiction of Khomeini as fanatical, reactionary, and the bearer of crude prejudices seems certainly and happily false."


I'm no clock-watcher, but it's been 28 years; I don't think Falk is going to be issuing an apology.


Falk cheerfully concluded that the fanatical Muslim leaders in Iran "may yet provide us with a desperately needed model of humane government for a Third World country."


And just look at all the wonderful things Khomeini did for Iran!


How might popular rule turn out in Pakistan? As Saul Bellow rhetorically said of multiculturalism, "Who is the Tolstoy of the Zulus?"


Pakistan is a country where local Islamic courts order women to be raped as punishment for the crimes of their male relatives. Among the Islamists' bill of particulars against Musharraf is the fact that he has promoted the Women's Protection Bill, which would punish rape, rather than using it as a device for social control.


According to The Boston Globe, the most common form of homosexuality in Pakistan -- punishable by death -- is pederasty.


Pakistan doesn't need Adlai Stevenson right now. It needs Mustafa Kemal Ataturk to impose military rule and drag a country of Islamic savages into the 19th century, as Ataturk did in Turkey. Pakistan's Ataturk is Gen. Musharraf.


To try to force democracy on the differing "I hate America" factions in Pakistan at this stage would be worse than Jimmy Carter's abandonment of the Shah in 1979. It would result in what former assistant secretary of state Edward Djerejian called: "one man, one vote, one time."


The difference is: Instead of scimitars, this den of al-Qaida-supporting pederasts will have nukes.]

Is it now OK to refer to Pakistan as Pederasts Al-Qaida Supporting and Nuclear-armed or at least by the acronym PAQiStaN?

Will this draw the ire of professors of Pederast Studies at minor American colleges and cause the Chowk editors to ban interactors for using the new acronym as opposed to the older acronym Pakistan?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Overcoming Learned Helplessness and Apathy ["The main illness of Pakistan is not Islamism, but militarism "]

Actually, it is both. All you can argue about is: which is dominant?

Remove militarism and Pakistan will out-Afghan the Afghans.

The Proposition [He points towards no culture around the world having male-staffed brothels.]

Clearly, Iqtidar was not as well-read as his father was.

Otherwise he would have known that Richard Burton the explorer wrote in his memoirs that in Karachi there were brothels staffed with boys and the total number of boys was near 4,000.

Iqtidar is partially correct though; those boys were kept for the enjoyment of men and not for women.

Reflections During a US Visa Grind [The barriers that alternatingly block the left and right halves of the road are not made of wood or pipes. Each unit is assembled by placing three angle-irons, about four feet long and eight inches wide, welded together in the middle to form a three-dimensional X. Each end of the X is sharpened into a pointed arrow of steel. Four or five of these units comprise a single barrier. If a vehicle, even a large vehicle, were to accidentally run into one of these, it would be instantly shred into pieces. You may have seen such murderous devices on footage of mayhem zones in Iraq or Afghanistan. What they are doing on the streets of Islamabad, the crown jewel of Pakistan’s cities, you cannot fathom. Not only do you wonder what Pakistanis have done to deserve this, but also what these “diplomats” have done to be so fearful.]

What have these diplomats done to deserve this?

Don't ask us. Ask the Islamic Terrorists!

Pervez Musharraf Declares Emergency in Pakistan Re Naqshbandi #69

[bring back the last surviving male descendent of Bahadur Shah Zafar (or his nearest relative) and make him into a king (or caliph).]

A couple of guys running a restaurant in Hyderabad claim to be the last descendants of Bahadur Shah Zafar.

Can you imagine Hyderabad biriyani becoming the National Food of Pakistan?

That is enough to make Hamidm cry and head straight for a bottle of Macallen.

Pervez Musharraf Declares Emergency in Pakistan Re Layman #10

[How different is this Emergency from the one that Indira Gandhi declared in 1975 when the Allahabad High Court judgement went against her?]

Pakistani Muslims have b@lls. In India, even the Muslims are castrated. Fakhruddin Ahmad, then President of India, meekly signed the proclamation of Emergency.

Some justice of a high court who dared say something about the Emergency (perhaps he actually held a hearing in some related case) was transferred to the Nagaland High Court in the middle of the night...much like the previous Governor of Tamil Nadu was transferred to Nagaland when Doctor Artist Leader the Fund of Compassion got elected a couple of years ago.

Nagaland is the gulag for India's civil servants and the judiciary.

Pervez Musharraf Declares Emergency in Pakistan rE hamidm2 33

[Re: # 1

islam mian,

... we would be more than happy to re-unify with our horrible hindoo cousins if you had toilets ..... bbc is reporting that 700m, ie 7 out of 10, hindoos are squatting on the railroad tracks ...... i am sure that the situation is a little better in pakistan where maybe 5 out of 10 are squatting on the railroad tracks ..... therfore, even thought we appreciate the invitation, i think we are better off as we are .......... no deal]

Those comments were by two Pakistanis, one in Lahore and the other in San Jose, CA.

I think the latter might have had one too many glass of the local Merlot. The fellow from Lahore must have been possessed by some djinn!

We are now laying railroad tracks to Srinagar to ensure that our Kashmiri brethren have toilet facilities too! Poor guys, they were taking their dumps in Dal Lake and it just got overfertilized and is now choked with weeds.

Bobby & Jerry : Rise of a Coloured ‘son’ Retold Re ahmedmadani #22

[Re: # 15 Is it written by mr. Mittal Nittal-Arcelor steel (who is competetior Rival) to Tata steel?]

Yes, the person who wrote that was Mr. Lakshmi Mittal of Mittal-Arcelor Steel.

Tata Charities did wonderful work in the aftermath of the great tsunami by providing clean drinking water in the worst hit locality. The water they supplied met or exceeded WHO standards for drinking water and was far far better than the junk delivered in cities like Calcutta or Chennai/Madras. That alone prevented the outbreak of cholera, dysentery and a host of water-borne diseases that could have devastated familities which had already lost their worldly possessions and family members.

Tata is an old-line company that has re-made itself. Much before there was an Infosys or Wipro, there was TCS, Tata Consulting Services. And it was about as difficult to get into a Tata company as it was to get into the coveted Indian Administrative Service.

Mrs. Narayanamoorthy mentions that her first job was with the Tatas in Pune. When she was initially rejected for a job on the manufacturing shop floor, she wrote to the Managing Director who reversed the initial decision and hired her.

The reason cited for rejecting her: there were no restrooms/toilets for women since there were no women employees in the shop floor! I believe Tatas built a women's toilet to accommodate her and then continued to hire women.

Somewhere there is an article about how a women's cooperative is supplying the food in the cafeteria at Tatas-Pune and not some highfaluting caterer. That again is more good that comes out of capitalism than comes out of Nimbupani's Women's Studies Programs.

Pervez Musharraf Declares Emergency in Pakistan A couple of comments in TimesOnLine in response to a commentary on Benazir Bhutto's return to Pakistan:

I feel sorry for Muslim religion. The practice of the religion makes you a fundamentalist.You have to follow Quran completely if you want to call yourself a muslim. Otherwise you are not a muslim. You can not just wear muslim religion on your sleeve and become a muslim for convenience.
Other religions do provide more flexibility; not that they are any better.
I wished that Pakistan maintained its earlier secular statehood and had kept a good share of hindus and christians in the country instead of becoming an Islamic state. It is bad to mix religion and State. If the Duo of Musharaff and Bhutto can re-declare secularism in their constitution and invite back hindus and christians who were original inhabitants of Pakistan, it will become a great country. Better still merge with India and give up any more dream of further Islamization.

Mlksheikh, California

Mlk Sheikh, San Jose, USA / California


Mr. Mlk Sheikh is correct.
The most practical solution for most of Pakistan's problems is re-unification with India. That would bring democracy to people of Pakistan that was long ago promised to them but never delivered by their military masters. That would bring secularism (though not perfect but much better than current zealotry and talibanization of Pakistan). That would enable impoverished masses of both India and Pakistan to achieve better living standard with reduced military expenditure. Madness like permanently putting military on Siachen glaciers (highest battlefield on earth) will be stopped. Combined military can easily tackle the militancy and bring law and order to all the lawless regions like Waziristan, etc.
Economic growth, stable and well functioning Indian democracy, secularism and education system will all be of great benefit to people.
Let's not permanently get trapped in this "Pakistan" experiment that began 60 years ago. Treat as a scientific experiment.

Salim Akhtar, Lahore, Pakistan

Bobby & Jerry : Rise of a Coloured ‘son’ Retold Re Maharana #20

[Your artcile makes no sense to the people on whom a basic irony is lost. That is, in a country like India, there are christian CM's being elected without having to renounce their religion or become hindu hardliners. But in the US without converting and becmoing a hardline conservative it would be impossible for a desi to be elected to such an office.
Imagine if a desi had to convert to islam to be elected to such an office in a muslim country.]

You mean, gasp, a Hindu doesn't have to become a Muslim to hold high office in a Muslim country?

Why didn't somebody tell this to Jinnah-bhai? His dad (or was it his granddad?) converted so that Jinnah-bhai could lead India's Muslims to True Freedom.

Bobby & Jerry : Rise of a Coloured ‘son’ Retold Re majumdar #11

[Good God!!! Another Hindu racist, casteist, fascist, misogynist bigoted freak!!!]

Was it Kissinger who asked, "What has India got, except malaria to export?"?

Learn to handle the truth. Truth sets you free.

As the motto says on the seal of the Government of India, "Satyameva Jayate" (Truth Alone Triunphs).