Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity Re: # 163
Manto...
"The people in Swat creating violence are Deobandi fundamentalists ... Deobandi Fundamentalists were brought into politics by Gandhi...as established earlier...."

There are number of Islamic political uprisings accross the world. The best (worst) example is Ayatollahs stepping into power in Iran. Even in Turkey, islamists are gaining power. Gandhi is not associated with any of these movements. There is something ugly in Islam, which incites people to create a gang to commit crime. Any person, knowing the nature of Islam, will try to take such advantage (use Islam to mobilise people). Taliban and Deobandis are essential problem of Islam, not Gandhi's. There are numerous Gandhi followers, who are doing good work. Vandana Shiva, Sunderlal Bahuguna.... Because Gandhi provided shelter to islamists, it does not make him criminal. It was his political compulsion, which was essential for India at that time. His message was clear. So, people were able to use it with success...
Couple of exceptions here and there do not make that real Gandhi (Elephant's eyes are very small, so elephant must be small animal!!!!).

Historian Amaresh Misra on South Asia Re: # 330
HP...
"It is just plain ridiculous to claim that the passage to IVC goes through Hinduism… Hinduism did not even exist when IVC was thriving! Hinduism has nothing to do with IVC...."

Mr. Rakhaldas Bandyopadhyay was the original excavator of IVC. Please read his books. He found idols of Pashupati/Shiva in Harappa which is integral part of Indian religious practice, still today. Isn't this enough to say that those people and current day Indians follow same set of traditions? IVC is integral part of Indian history....

You are attached with 7th century arab beduinism. So, whatever may be IVC, it has nothing to do with islam/ arab barbarism. That must be clear to you. How will you link current Pakiland with arabic script, moon god, desert rituals etc... with IVC?

Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity Manto....
Do these talibans kill people in the name of Gandhi? Do any Gandhiwadi people resort to violence and destroy barber shop, girl's school, cinema hall etc...
The source is your holy book and prophet(7th century beduine raider). Gandhi encouraged them to lead barbaric life in return of loyalty. That is very common in politics (Indian).

Historian Amaresh Misra on South Asia Re: # 300
Hari...
"That also answers the question whether the tribals are Hindus and whether those animists who worship stones, trees, rivers, etc., are Hindus. Hinduism accepts anyone as a Hindu who considers himself a Hindu..."

those, who are attached to local culture of India... not, those who follow 7th century beduine paedophile and contemporary stupid arab rituals.......

Historian Amaresh Misra on South Asia Re: # 162
Salim...
We love all types of animals...
Watch the dog Moti in one of the Mumbai movies ( search Mithun starres...)...He was far more popular than lot of Indians....

Historian Amaresh Misra on South Asia Re: # 308
DM...
"While I am agnostic towards the AIT, the above statements are not inconsistent with that hypothesis. That theory states that the local people were driven from the Indus Valley and this is the reason that you do find linguistic similarities with people further south; it also claims that the aryans incorporated some of the local gods into their belief system..."

Please tell me who are Aryans now ? Punjus? UP Bhaiyas? Brahmins? You can not find that way. Most of the present day gods evolved in Puranic ages, which has no relation with Vedas etc...The concept of Aryan-Dravidian was valid only during Vedic period....After that, no literature speaks about such stuff...

Historian Amaresh Misra on South Asia #340
...include every Indian as outsider....

Some part of North Karnataka is contemporary to IVC. IVC continued to Narmada valley as well - Lothal

Historian Amaresh Misra on South Asia Re: # 332
Hari...

To Mullah32 and HP...all the entities of Pakistan was brought from Middle East by moslem invaders...and if you considers moslems as outsiders, you have to exclude every Indian as outsider.....
Complete Koranic logic...

Historian Amaresh Misra on South Asia Re: # 164
Bull...
".......the fourth is the massive genocide of bengalis by the british, where 1/3rd of their race was terminated......
"
Extreamly stupid. Bengalis are not aware of any such incident....

"...Nadir Shah...."
Oh, what noble souls these moslems were!!!!! And Indians dislike these noble souls most...ch.ch.ch.....

Historian Amaresh Misra on South Asia Re: # 303
HP...
"Aryans brought Hinduism with them and they were invaders too. They made people follow Hinduism forcibly or peacefully we don't know yet. But in the most likely scenario, since Aryans were warriors, they enforced their way of life on the local Indians and Hinduism was shoved down people's throat too.

So Hinduism is as foreign to India as any other dominant religion today!..."

So, Mr. Arab slave barbarian, this is the history you learn in Pakistan....
Aryans came to India with maurading army!!!!
They had looted and destroyed civilian structures!!!!
and Muhammed of Ghajnavi and the other moslems were invited by local kings and population!!!!!

‘Dustbin of history’ or ‘history of sorts’ Re: # 29
Haris...
The practical solution is to transfer part of Kashmir valley to Pakistan, by taking some money from their masters in Saudi Arabia. The problem is, will Saudi Arabia sponsor this? I don't think so. There are large number of Kashimiri moslems working in rest of India. The migration will keep on happening through marriage etc... and India will be looser in all practical purpose. The leaders are opposing separate country, as they are enjoying VIP life style at the expense of taxpayers money.

‘Dustbin of history’ or ‘history of sorts’ Re: # 27
Matloob...
"That is so naive, don't they want to become a nuclear power themselves too? they wont, until they give up sitting on the railway tracks counting the trains go by, they got to get on the train and move from point A to point B or else they must be representing Delhi in Kashmir...."

Kashmir survives with Indian assistance and tourism industry. Once it is detached from India, there will be hardly any domestic tourist or foreign tourist. Like Bangladeshis today (who flock India in huge numbers and creating trouble), Kashmir will create another set of problem for India. The way these guys were begging after last earthquake, it was evident from that....

There is something called moraly human. These barbarians will try to purchase land in other part of India and will never hesitate to use the moslem minority identity to get additional benefit from GOI. But, when comes to Kashmir, these scoundrels wil show their true color. Couple of my friends were studying in REC (now NIT), Srinagar. The way these barbarians behave, such that the institute was created by their arab masters. During the jihadi uprising, they were forced to leave the institute and joined our college loosing 2 years.....

‘Dustbin of history’ or ‘history of sorts’ Re: # 15
Gohar...
What self determination Kashmir valley moslems are lacking? Not enough Pundits to kill and carry out Jihad?
Kosovo was part of very small country. If the population is very less compared to the main country (less than 1/10th) no UN sceurity council member will support you jihadis.
Anyhow, who will pay for the money India had spent on Kashmir? Your grandpas and uncles in Saudi Arabia?

Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity Re: # 113
Manto lives....

"And while Taliban don't get influenced by such historic continuity, the views of taliban and Gandhi are identical when it comes to Western civilization (satanic rule and ravana raj), modernity, modern medicine, the role of women in society, lying naked with 12 year olds etc...."

LOL...
Gandhi opposed use of chemical ingredients due to natural reason. Lead a life, which is harmonious with nature. It is traditional Indian way of life, which do not tax nature heavily. To equate that with Taliban is something very funny. That way, there are lot of Indian Talibans- Dr. Vandana Shiva, Sunderlal Bahuguna, Sri Sri Ravi Sankar....

Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity Re: # 103
Majumder...
"Harishbhai,

MAJ (pbuh) began off as an ambassador for Hindu-Muslim unity. Only when he realised the bitter truth at a much later age, that he opted for Pakistan...."

The ML movement was something alive before Jinnah joined it and Jinnah had taken the leadership of it. I don't think, Jinnah has any contribution in raising the popularity of ML. So, action of MAJ in Congress, should not be treated as benchmark.

Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity #125 #129

Arjun -

India and Pakistani economy both are now going down in drains. Indian inflation is very high now.


Ahmed...
India have no enemity with Pakistan, as per as economy is concerned. Pakistan enjoys MFN status in India....