The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
They are not dependent on exports because 90% of China still has a fixed wage system and state enterprise.
Are you for real?
Why don't you visit china and tell this to a chinese person.
Posted by
cid1
Dec 26, 2007 12:04 pm
#137 Posted by zeemax on December 26, 2007 11:41:52 amThey are not dependent on exports because 90% of China still has a fixed wage system and state enterprise.
Are you for real?
Why don't you visit china and tell this to a chinese person.
Sins of Our Fathers
don't you know the rules
Conquests of non-islamic lands by muslims is part of the glorious history of islam.
conquest of islamic lands by non-muslims is a crime to be condemned until time ends
When muslims killed non-muslims in the past, it's part of the glorious warrior history of islam
When non-muslims killed muslims in the past, like during the crusades hundreds of years ago, that event needs to be mourned by muslim and non-muslim alike forever...
Posted by
cid1
Dec 26, 2007 10:56 am
sigh...mahvish mahvish mahvish...don't you know the rules
Conquests of non-islamic lands by muslims is part of the glorious history of islam.
conquest of islamic lands by non-muslims is a crime to be condemned until time ends
When muslims killed non-muslims in the past, it's part of the glorious warrior history of islam
When non-muslims killed muslims in the past, like during the crusades hundreds of years ago, that event needs to be mourned by muslim and non-muslim alike forever...
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
You must have seen an article in WSJ couple of weeks back on Boeing’s Dreamliner and how parts from about 15-20 countries are sourced to build the plane.
I read that article. The delay in the dreamliner was attributed to troubles with sourcing parts from 15-20 countries..not the best example..
Boeing Scrambles to Repair Problems With New Plane
By J. Lynn Lunsford
Word Count: 2,190 | Companies Featured in This Article: Boeing, European Aeronautic Defence & Space, Finmeccanica, Onex, All Nippon Airways
EVERETT, Wash. -- On Tuesday, Boeing Co. will give Wall Street a progress report on its 787 Dreamliner, as it scrambles to overcome a six-month delay in producing the new jet. A look inside the project reveals that the mess stems from one of its main selling points to investors -- global outsourcing.
Posted by
cid1
Dec 26, 2007 09:19 am
#131 Posted by Pardesi on December 26, 2007 9:12:28 amYou must have seen an article in WSJ couple of weeks back on Boeing’s Dreamliner and how parts from about 15-20 countries are sourced to build the plane.
I read that article. The delay in the dreamliner was attributed to troubles with sourcing parts from 15-20 countries..not the best example..
Boeing Scrambles to Repair Problems With New Plane
By J. Lynn Lunsford
Word Count: 2,190 | Companies Featured in This Article: Boeing, European Aeronautic Defence & Space, Finmeccanica, Onex, All Nippon Airways
EVERETT, Wash. -- On Tuesday, Boeing Co. will give Wall Street a progress report on its 787 Dreamliner, as it scrambles to overcome a six-month delay in producing the new jet. A look inside the project reveals that the mess stems from one of its main selling points to investors -- global outsourcing.
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
It is all about transfer of technology and industrial espionage.
It's one thing to copy a car...quite another think to copy, say, ,a 45nm fab.
Posted by
cid1
Dec 26, 2007 09:15 am
#125 Posted by zeemax on December 26, 2007 8:26:17 amIt is all about transfer of technology and industrial espionage.
It's one thing to copy a car...quite another think to copy, say, ,a 45nm fab.
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
ouch...zeemax just got spanked..
don't waster your time with him..he doesn't know what he's talking about..pretended to be a bigshot in the finance industry but confused amaranth with amarnath.
Posted by
cid1
Dec 26, 2007 08:44 am
#128 Posted by anil on December 26, 2007 8:30:27 amouch...zeemax just got spanked..
don't waster your time with him..he doesn't know what he's talking about..pretended to be a bigshot in the finance industry but confused amaranth with amarnath.
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
Tide Is Shifting On U.S. Exports
As Demand Grows For Niche Items, Firms Look Abroad
By Michael A. Fletcher
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 26, 2007; A01
CINCINNATI -- Challenged by a troubled U.S. economy and the steeply falling dollar, a growing number of U.S. manufacturers are making up for slowing domestic sales by expanding them overseas, often with sophisticated products.
Once fingered as a prime culprit in the loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs, global business is shaping up as a bulwark against what some analysts fear is a looming recession. Some forecasters predict that the export boom will allow the United States to cut its huge trade deficit.
An expanding foreign appetite for capital goods such as tractors, medical equipment and electrical machinery is driving much of the boom. Much of that growth is in China, the fourth-largest export market for U.S. goods, where U.S. sales are growing 17 percent this year, according to federal officials. In the first nine months of this year, sales of U.S. aircraft to China are up 30 percent and plastics are up 37 percent.
There also is increased international demand for complex niche products for which "made in the U.S.A." remains shorthand for reliability. "These are the kinds of things for which the U.S. continues to hold a lead in know-how," said Erin Ennis, vice president of the U.S.-China Business Council.
Tedia Co., a business based in suburban Cincinnati that makes chemicals used in laboratory testing, has transformed itself to meet that demand. Not long ago, its small cadre of chemists, lab technicians and stock employees did all of their work for a huge domestic firm that needed high-purity solvents for laboratory use. The business model was crafted by Tedia's late founder Moon Su Park, a chemical engineer who launched the company in 1975. It worked well for 15 years, but left the new generation of company executives worried that the firm's fate was in the hands of one big client.
Back in 1990, "90 percent of our business was under someone else's name. That is not the kind of position you want to be in as a company," said Tedia President Hoon Choi. That's when Tedia decided to look abroad. Now, sales are expanding rapidly in China and Brazil -- places the firm did not even do business 15 years ago. Overall, exports account for half of the company's business, and the company has doubled its number of employees to 70 since 2003.
The chemicals Tedia makes are critical to things such as DNA- and water-testing that require pure solvents to isolate the contaminants in the substances being tested -- quality that company officials say few firms outside of the United States, Canada and Europe can provide consistently.
"As some of these developing economies have grown, the demand for our products have grown as well," said Chris Dendy, Tedia's sales and marketing manager.
Tedia is in the middle of building a new 40,000-square-foot warehouse across the street from the company's headquarters and the firm is anticipating 20 to 25 percent growth in each of the next two years.
"For a long time people thought of globalization only as the loss of jobs," said Elliott Howard, who fills and labels the brown bottles of chemicals distilled in Tedia's eight large stainless-steel stills. "Now, I think of it as expanding the company."
A similar transformation is evident at another Ohio company, Richards Industries, which makes precision valves.
When Bruce Boxterman made his first visit to a trade fair in China in the late 1980s, he became convinced that the potential for his company in China was vast. "You'd go in a store and see shirts on the shelf without any packaging . . . the general lack of developed infrastructure," said Boxterman, now president of Richards. The companies that manufacture such commodities are the clients who now buy Richards valves.
Two decades later, sales to foreign firms account for close to a third of Richards' revenues -- more than double what it was 10 years ago. The firm projects that exports will account for half of its business in another five years, a shift that is turning heads among the firm's 125 employees.
"It wasn't that long ago that guys looked at globalization like it is going to cause us all to lose our jobs," said Wells Rankin, a supervisor who began as a drill press operator at Richards in 1989. "Now it's probably going to save our jobs."
Nationally, exports grew 12.7 percent between 2005 and 2006. This year, they are on track to increase even more, allowing the economy to continue growing at a healthy clip despite the steep downturn in the housing industry.
Whether this boom is a temporary phenomenon tied to the declining dollar or a harbinger of a fundamental shift propelled by the rapid rise in living standards in developing nations is the subject of intense debate.
"For us, the fact that countries such as China and India are building so much infrastructure is why they are a growth market," said Jason Cooper, a Richards vice president, voicing a view shared by the Bush administration and many Republicans.
The breakneck development transforming such places as China and India mean more business opportunities for Richards. The firm's sophisticated valves, outfitted with special controls at the company's plant, are critical to processes at places including refineries and petrochemical plants, which turn out products from fuel to the plastic used to wrap shirts.
"Businesses are getting behind exports, and we are becoming a major, major exporter," said Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez. "We've got to keep that going."
But on the Democratic side, free-trade agreements and other efforts aimed at liberalizing international trade have come under fire. Earlier this month, Congress approved a relatively small free-trade agreement with Peru, but larger deals with Panama, Colombia and South Korea are in doubt because of concerns that they would cost U.S. jobs.
Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), who made trade deals a signature issue in his campaign last year to unseat Sen. Mike DeWine (R), has called for a pause in the agreements while the United States develops a new model that pays greater attention to worker conditions abroad and their impact on jobs at home. "We want trade and more of it," Brown said. "But we want trade that grows our economy, rather than undercutting it."
Leading Democratic presidential candidates have been cool toward free-trade agreements, with suggestions that range from a "timeout" on new deals (Hillary Rodham Clinton) to a renegotiation of the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement (Barack Obama), and a bid for NAFTA to be "reworked" with stronger environmental and labor standards (John Edwards).
Much of the public also sees free-trade agreements as bad for the country. Forty-six percent of people polled in March by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal said the United States is being harmed by them, while 28 percent said the nation is benefiting. Only 31 percent said they were being personally hurt by the global economy.
Ohio, home of Richards Industries and Tedia, is at the center of this swirling debate. The state's unemployment rate of 5.9 percent is 25 percent above the national average. More than 200,000 manufacturing jobs have disappeared in the state since 2000, and one in three registered voters rate economic conditions as "poor," according to the latest Ohio Poll.
Little noted amid the pervasive gloom, however, is that Ohio is the only state in the nation where exports have expanded in each of the past eight years.
"I think that the average Ohioan would view trade as losing jobs to other countries," said Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher, who heads the state's economic development efforts, with 13 offices around the world aimed at attracting foreign business. "But there are other aspects of trade that are less understood."
Richards' Boxterman agreed. As far as he is concerned, exporting has saved his company. "I remember when people asked, 'How are we supposed to sell valves in China?' " Boxterman said. "Now, foreign sales are a huge part of who we are and what we are and why we've been able to survive as a small company."
The growth in exports has meant just a handful of new jobs. But in its employment listings Richards notes that it has never laid people off or reduced work weeks under 40 hours -- a proud record that at times has been kept intact by having workers come in to paint and clean the plant. Besides job security, the firm also offers full benefits, including a company-funded 401(k) plan and profit sharing. Entry-level jobs start at $12 an hour.
To remain economically competitive, Richards, which does about $30 million a year in sales, began buying component parts overseas about a decade ago. China, India and Italy were the places to go for low-cost, basic valves that Richards customizes -- a reality that company executives acknowledge must have cost jobs in some other U.S. plant, even while saving them at Richards.
"When I interviewed here, I was asked: 'Do you think you can get us globally sourced?' " said Charles Page, the firm's vice president for customer service and a minority owner who began working at Richards in 1996. "I said 'yes, sir,' even though I didn't know exactly what that meant."
Now, Page sees outsourcing as "a necessity." He also knows that cannot be good for U.S. makers of basic valves and other components used by Richards. But when it comes to custom valves that are controlled by pneumatic or electrical devices and used in such places as sophisticated pharmaceutical or petrochemical plants, Richards officials say U.S. firms have the advantage.
"We sell a niche product. The ultimate irony is that in some of these fast-growing countries, firms don't want to buy their own stuff," Cooper said. "They don't trust it."
Polling analyst Jennifer Agiesta contributed to this report.
Posted by
cid1
Dec 25, 2007 06:41 pm
bad news for the AIDS(America is Doomed syndrome) afflicted jihadis..Tide Is Shifting On U.S. Exports
As Demand Grows For Niche Items, Firms Look Abroad
By Michael A. Fletcher
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 26, 2007; A01
CINCINNATI -- Challenged by a troubled U.S. economy and the steeply falling dollar, a growing number of U.S. manufacturers are making up for slowing domestic sales by expanding them overseas, often with sophisticated products.
Once fingered as a prime culprit in the loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs, global business is shaping up as a bulwark against what some analysts fear is a looming recession. Some forecasters predict that the export boom will allow the United States to cut its huge trade deficit.
An expanding foreign appetite for capital goods such as tractors, medical equipment and electrical machinery is driving much of the boom. Much of that growth is in China, the fourth-largest export market for U.S. goods, where U.S. sales are growing 17 percent this year, according to federal officials. In the first nine months of this year, sales of U.S. aircraft to China are up 30 percent and plastics are up 37 percent.
There also is increased international demand for complex niche products for which "made in the U.S.A." remains shorthand for reliability. "These are the kinds of things for which the U.S. continues to hold a lead in know-how," said Erin Ennis, vice president of the U.S.-China Business Council.
Tedia Co., a business based in suburban Cincinnati that makes chemicals used in laboratory testing, has transformed itself to meet that demand. Not long ago, its small cadre of chemists, lab technicians and stock employees did all of their work for a huge domestic firm that needed high-purity solvents for laboratory use. The business model was crafted by Tedia's late founder Moon Su Park, a chemical engineer who launched the company in 1975. It worked well for 15 years, but left the new generation of company executives worried that the firm's fate was in the hands of one big client.
Back in 1990, "90 percent of our business was under someone else's name. That is not the kind of position you want to be in as a company," said Tedia President Hoon Choi. That's when Tedia decided to look abroad. Now, sales are expanding rapidly in China and Brazil -- places the firm did not even do business 15 years ago. Overall, exports account for half of the company's business, and the company has doubled its number of employees to 70 since 2003.
The chemicals Tedia makes are critical to things such as DNA- and water-testing that require pure solvents to isolate the contaminants in the substances being tested -- quality that company officials say few firms outside of the United States, Canada and Europe can provide consistently.
"As some of these developing economies have grown, the demand for our products have grown as well," said Chris Dendy, Tedia's sales and marketing manager.
Tedia is in the middle of building a new 40,000-square-foot warehouse across the street from the company's headquarters and the firm is anticipating 20 to 25 percent growth in each of the next two years.
"For a long time people thought of globalization only as the loss of jobs," said Elliott Howard, who fills and labels the brown bottles of chemicals distilled in Tedia's eight large stainless-steel stills. "Now, I think of it as expanding the company."
A similar transformation is evident at another Ohio company, Richards Industries, which makes precision valves.
When Bruce Boxterman made his first visit to a trade fair in China in the late 1980s, he became convinced that the potential for his company in China was vast. "You'd go in a store and see shirts on the shelf without any packaging . . . the general lack of developed infrastructure," said Boxterman, now president of Richards. The companies that manufacture such commodities are the clients who now buy Richards valves.
Two decades later, sales to foreign firms account for close to a third of Richards' revenues -- more than double what it was 10 years ago. The firm projects that exports will account for half of its business in another five years, a shift that is turning heads among the firm's 125 employees.
"It wasn't that long ago that guys looked at globalization like it is going to cause us all to lose our jobs," said Wells Rankin, a supervisor who began as a drill press operator at Richards in 1989. "Now it's probably going to save our jobs."
Nationally, exports grew 12.7 percent between 2005 and 2006. This year, they are on track to increase even more, allowing the economy to continue growing at a healthy clip despite the steep downturn in the housing industry.
Whether this boom is a temporary phenomenon tied to the declining dollar or a harbinger of a fundamental shift propelled by the rapid rise in living standards in developing nations is the subject of intense debate.
"For us, the fact that countries such as China and India are building so much infrastructure is why they are a growth market," said Jason Cooper, a Richards vice president, voicing a view shared by the Bush administration and many Republicans.
The breakneck development transforming such places as China and India mean more business opportunities for Richards. The firm's sophisticated valves, outfitted with special controls at the company's plant, are critical to processes at places including refineries and petrochemical plants, which turn out products from fuel to the plastic used to wrap shirts.
"Businesses are getting behind exports, and we are becoming a major, major exporter," said Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez. "We've got to keep that going."
But on the Democratic side, free-trade agreements and other efforts aimed at liberalizing international trade have come under fire. Earlier this month, Congress approved a relatively small free-trade agreement with Peru, but larger deals with Panama, Colombia and South Korea are in doubt because of concerns that they would cost U.S. jobs.
Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), who made trade deals a signature issue in his campaign last year to unseat Sen. Mike DeWine (R), has called for a pause in the agreements while the United States develops a new model that pays greater attention to worker conditions abroad and their impact on jobs at home. "We want trade and more of it," Brown said. "But we want trade that grows our economy, rather than undercutting it."
Leading Democratic presidential candidates have been cool toward free-trade agreements, with suggestions that range from a "timeout" on new deals (Hillary Rodham Clinton) to a renegotiation of the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement (Barack Obama), and a bid for NAFTA to be "reworked" with stronger environmental and labor standards (John Edwards).
Much of the public also sees free-trade agreements as bad for the country. Forty-six percent of people polled in March by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal said the United States is being harmed by them, while 28 percent said the nation is benefiting. Only 31 percent said they were being personally hurt by the global economy.
Ohio, home of Richards Industries and Tedia, is at the center of this swirling debate. The state's unemployment rate of 5.9 percent is 25 percent above the national average. More than 200,000 manufacturing jobs have disappeared in the state since 2000, and one in three registered voters rate economic conditions as "poor," according to the latest Ohio Poll.
Little noted amid the pervasive gloom, however, is that Ohio is the only state in the nation where exports have expanded in each of the past eight years.
"I think that the average Ohioan would view trade as losing jobs to other countries," said Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher, who heads the state's economic development efforts, with 13 offices around the world aimed at attracting foreign business. "But there are other aspects of trade that are less understood."
Richards' Boxterman agreed. As far as he is concerned, exporting has saved his company. "I remember when people asked, 'How are we supposed to sell valves in China?' " Boxterman said. "Now, foreign sales are a huge part of who we are and what we are and why we've been able to survive as a small company."
The growth in exports has meant just a handful of new jobs. But in its employment listings Richards notes that it has never laid people off or reduced work weeks under 40 hours -- a proud record that at times has been kept intact by having workers come in to paint and clean the plant. Besides job security, the firm also offers full benefits, including a company-funded 401(k) plan and profit sharing. Entry-level jobs start at $12 an hour.
To remain economically competitive, Richards, which does about $30 million a year in sales, began buying component parts overseas about a decade ago. China, India and Italy were the places to go for low-cost, basic valves that Richards customizes -- a reality that company executives acknowledge must have cost jobs in some other U.S. plant, even while saving them at Richards.
"When I interviewed here, I was asked: 'Do you think you can get us globally sourced?' " said Charles Page, the firm's vice president for customer service and a minority owner who began working at Richards in 1996. "I said 'yes, sir,' even though I didn't know exactly what that meant."
Now, Page sees outsourcing as "a necessity." He also knows that cannot be good for U.S. makers of basic valves and other components used by Richards. But when it comes to custom valves that are controlled by pneumatic or electrical devices and used in such places as sophisticated pharmaceutical or petrochemical plants, Richards officials say U.S. firms have the advantage.
"We sell a niche product. The ultimate irony is that in some of these fast-growing countries, firms don't want to buy their own stuff," Cooper said. "They don't trust it."
Polling analyst Jennifer Agiesta contributed to this report.
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
Beijing's one-party politics have bred a timid business culture that prevents domestic firms from developing key technologies and keeps them dependent on the West.
that may be right for now but it's just a matter of time before they step up and hit it out of the park.
the chicoms are really bad about intellectual property..fucking copycats...even a major company like huawei completely ripped off ios...before they were busted and cisco sued their asses
Posted by
cid1
Dec 25, 2007 06:11 pm
#106 Posted by masadi on December 25, 2007 5:19:42 pmBeijing's one-party politics have bred a timid business culture that prevents domestic firms from developing key technologies and keeps them dependent on the West.
that may be right for now but it's just a matter of time before they step up and hit it out of the park.
the chicoms are really bad about intellectual property..fucking copycats...even a major company like huawei completely ripped off ios...before they were busted and cisco sued their asses
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
Chinese and Indians are growing because they acknowledge it and accept it.
Not just that, even the johny-come-lately islamic crusader mahatir mohammad welcomed US investment into malaysia...in effect, he did good for malaysia by being a "kanjaroon" rather than a tru blue scotch drinking momeen like zeemax..
same thing for dubai...liquor and a liberal culture got them to where they are, not running towards the 7th century
Posted by
cid1
Dec 25, 2007 02:06 pm
#93 Posted by anil on December 25, 2007 1:12:18 pmChinese and Indians are growing because they acknowledge it and accept it.
Not just that, even the johny-come-lately islamic crusader mahatir mohammad welcomed US investment into malaysia...in effect, he did good for malaysia by being a "kanjaroon" rather than a tru blue scotch drinking momeen like zeemax..
same thing for dubai...liquor and a liberal culture got them to where they are, not running towards the 7th century
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
But there's Korea, the common enemy of the Japanese who is way ahead in consumer R&D than even USA right now.
Umm..Korea that flies the F-15s and that's a very strong ally of the US..and by ally, I mean real ally, not female dog pureland...
regardless..what consumer technology is korea ahead in? chips? microprocessors? gee..I must have slept through the demise of intel and IBM...
Posted by
cid1
Dec 25, 2007 02:03 pm
#98 Posted by zeemax on December 25, 2007 1:48:39 pmBut there's Korea, the common enemy of the Japanese who is way ahead in consumer R&D than even USA right now.
Umm..Korea that flies the F-15s and that's a very strong ally of the US..and by ally, I mean real ally, not female dog pureland...
regardless..what consumer technology is korea ahead in? chips? microprocessors? gee..I must have slept through the demise of intel and IBM...
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
After the low value-added industry moved out of USA because they had access to cheap Chinese goods, there's noone to make t-shirts in USA.
you don't know what you're talking about..have you actually been to china..the people who're making a lot of the stuff in china and exporting it to the US are..sit down for this...americans..
your wet dreams of islamic abdul taking on the great satan after a nice filling meal from the yellow teat will have to wait a long time..
Posted by
cid1
Dec 25, 2007 11:46 am
#89 Posted by zeemax on December 25, 2007 9:49:34 amAfter the low value-added industry moved out of USA because they had access to cheap Chinese goods, there's noone to make t-shirts in USA.
you don't know what you're talking about..have you actually been to china..the people who're making a lot of the stuff in china and exporting it to the US are..sit down for this...americans..
your wet dreams of islamic abdul taking on the great satan after a nice filling meal from the yellow teat will have to wait a long time..
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
I worked at a public university on contract basis
How is the university financed?
1. All the money it needs comes from students fees.
2. They have a printing press where they print money.
3. They get money from the pakistani government.
which one is it?
Posted by
cid1
Dec 25, 2007 08:37 am
#87 Posted by masadi on December 25, 2007 8:29:15 amI worked at a public university on contract basis
How is the university financed?
1. All the money it needs comes from students fees.
2. They have a printing press where they print money.
3. They get money from the pakistani government.
which one is it?
Abdul Latif Khalid (1944-2007)
our socities practice a perverse form of "worship of the dead"
No they don't..why don't you die and then paki society can prove they don't worship the dead..
Posted by
cid1
Dec 25, 2007 08:24 am
#75 Posted by masadi on December 25, 2007 8:20:08 amour socities practice a perverse form of "worship of the dead"
No they don't..why don't you die and then paki society can prove they don't worship the dead..
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
Oil men seek to enhance their profits and sometimes it entails cutting off the supply of oil,
masadi...you are right...the people of the US are ignorant sheep..they'll gladly pay 6$ a gallon so the "oil men" can get rich..
there..now do you think I can get published on lulu.com?
Posted by
cid1
Dec 25, 2007 08:20 am
#83 Posted by masadi on December 25, 2007 8:10:15 amOil men seek to enhance their profits and sometimes it entails cutting off the supply of oil,
masadi...you are right...the people of the US are ignorant sheep..they'll gladly pay 6$ a gallon so the "oil men" can get rich..
there..now do you think I can get published on lulu.com?
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
Neither the people of India nor of China have benefitted from globalization
yes masadi..the great unwashed masses of india and china are ignorant..you are the source of all knowledge in the universe..
p.s. please tell us why you are still getting a paycheck from the paki government?
Posted by
cid1
Dec 25, 2007 08:17 am
#80 Posted by masadi on December 25, 2007 7:20:40 amNeither the people of India nor of China have benefitted from globalization
yes masadi..the great unwashed masses of india and china are ignorant..you are the source of all knowledge in the universe..
p.s. please tell us why you are still getting a paycheck from the paki government?
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
How then is the nonsense called War on Terror not a War on Islam?
That's pretty obvious...this is a war on islamic terrorism..
Once surface to air capability is handed out to Taliban, tables will turn just as they did in case of the Soviets.
Why don't you equip your flying pigs with laser guided bombs?
Which way should Pakistan go?
It's not like you have a choice...one phone call and your military will just grease up and bend over..
Posted by
cid1
Dec 25, 2007 03:24 am
#77 Posted by zeemax on December 25, 2007 3:16:47 amHow then is the nonsense called War on Terror not a War on Islam?
That's pretty obvious...this is a war on islamic terrorism..
Once surface to air capability is handed out to Taliban, tables will turn just as they did in case of the Soviets.
Why don't you equip your flying pigs with laser guided bombs?
Which way should Pakistan go?
It's not like you have a choice...one phone call and your military will just grease up and bend over..
The Real Issue Facing Pakistan
piss off..the "moderate" paki act doesn't fly with me..
Posted by
cid1
Dec 25, 2007 02:38 am
#63 Posted by hamidm2 on December 24, 2007 9:03:48 pmpiss off..the "moderate" paki act doesn't fly with me..
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