Simply Outrageous! #9 Posted by dost_mittar on April 3, 2008 4:57:20 am


It is for the first time that the Pakistani public is so angry at the US and feels that it is forcing Pakistan to go against its own interests


this situation is entirely of their own making..pakis were fine with the jihad as long as they thought the jihad was giving them strategc depth in afghanistan and would give them kashmir on a platter..

if i had a penny for everytime a paki told us about pakiland's geostrategic situation and how it was bleeding india, I'd have enough money to buy a bunch of hellfires..

pakiland is like a drug addict was forced to go on rehab. a jihad junkie if you will..like any other addict, it's experiencing withdrawal symptoms..it thinks the problem is rebab, not the drugs...

Simply Outrageous! #10 Posted by pavocavalry on April 3, 2008 5:03:24 am


A glance at India's increasing defence and intelligence budget proves that the conflict will continue at low intensity till Pakistan is denuclearised.


pavo: not to claim the mantle of gandhi for india or anything, but you do realize that india spends far less on defense as a % of it's GDP than the land of the pure...the numbers for education are the reverse...

Simply Outrageous! #1 Posted by zeemax on April 3, 2008 12:14:29 am

yeah goatbrain....because we all know bush takes his marching order from the huffington post...

Simply Outrageous! complete BS..par for the course on chowk..


It is partly because these trigger-happy Americans have become so predictable overtime


american are trigger happy? and the pakis who create the taliban and the whole jihadi infrastructure are just followers of the religion of peace?


God knows how many of the ‘terrorists’ were handed over to the US to be at the Guantanamo Bay in lieu of the dollars that our establishment earned.


60 minutes interviewed a german-turk who was released from gitmo because he was deemed innocent and because angela merkel asked for his release..he had come to the land of the pure to learn about islam and get in touch with his islamic thing..the paki cops arrested him because he stood out(he was fair skinned among the dark skinned pakis...did I say dark skinned and hurt your feelings?) the paki government turned him over to the US for 3000$.

one allah's homie for 3000$..not a bad deal..for the US..

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? #333 Posted by tahmed32 on April 2, 2008 5:54:54 pm

prophetboy:

70% of americans have a positive opinion of India
70% of americans have a negative opinion of pakiland...

reality...it's hard on pakis...

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? #331 Posted by bjkumar on April 2, 2008 5:25:09 pm

save it...

with a couple of notable exceptions, the only paki who doesn't support terrorism is a dead paki...

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? yoo hoo capt clueless..

ADB doubtful about Pak growth sustainability
Thursday, April 03, 2008
By Mehtab Haider

ISLAMABAD: The Asian Development Bank (ADB) has raised doubts about long-term sustainability of growth patterns for Pakistan, owing to domestic political uncertainty, higher global oil and commodity prices.

The ADB also lowered down Pakistan’s GDP growth forecast to 6.3 per cent against the actual target of 7 per cent, due to the lingering energy crisis, while the revised upward inflations touched 8 per cent against the envisaged annual target of 6.5 per cent for the current fiscal year.

“Issues of long-term sustainability therefore, arise, especially in the context of high global oil and commodity prices and domestic political uncertainties,” stated the Asian Development Outlook (ADO-2008) released by the ADB states on Wednesday.

The ADO 2008 also outlined twin deficits ó current account deficit and fiscal deficit, as major challenges for Pakistan in the future line of action. External debt rose by another $2.5 billion in the first half of FY2008 as a consequence of the rising current account and fiscal deficits, while foreign currency reserves were also depleting.

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7324337.stm

prophetboy: 42% of people in the world think India has a positive influence...then umber is 18% for the land of the pure..i.e. less than half?

how could this be!!

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? what's this prophetboy?

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? #310 Posted by bulleya on April 2, 2008 10:23:43 am


....finally Pakistanis are growing balls....


capt clueless...a resolution with a picture of a pair isn't the same as growing balls..


Gilani says negotiations are the way to go and the pakistani leadership tells NPonte to take a hike....


You told us Bush would be so beholden to pakiland that he would stop for every tongawalla when he visited islamabad..

don't remember it? here..let me jog your memory..

#54 Posted by Romair on September 17, 2001 10:30:11 am

1) In the short term, the US now desperately needs Pakistan. More so than Pakistan needs the US. Ironic, but true. I can`t imagine Bush driving on the wrong side of the Islamabad highway, like Clinton did. Bush will stop at all red lights, and let the tongas cross. There is absolutely no way the US can fight any kind of war in Afghanistan without Pakistan`s assistance. Of all the countries in the world, the US contacted Pakistan. Why? Russia, China, Iran are not going to help. Even Canada and the European countries are unwilling to, ``accept all US demands.`` They don`t want OBL mentioning their names, along with the US, in his next speech. I just heard on CNN the Tajikistan rep saying they will not allow ground troops.

2) The long term relationship between Pakistan and the US has changed now, also. This is not to say that the US will dump India for Pakistan. But now it will not dump Pakistan for India either; which was begining to happen. This war against terrorism is going to be like the drug war; long and drawn out according to Farid Zakaria (an Indian Muslim editor of Newsweek, with more insight than all US analysts combined). There are two Muslim countries in this war that the US has to keep on its side; one is Saudia Arabia and the other is Pakistan. If Pakistan flips to the other side, or becomes destabilized, then America`s worst nightmare, ``Mullahs with nukes`` scenario could come true. So relations between Pakistan and the US after the C-141s start landing at Chaklala, should now remain pretty good; at the very least they are not going to get bad, like they were begining to.

3) I had mentioned a long time ago that Musharraf was waiting for an opportunity to go after the local Mullah parties. These parties and their leaders are very different from the ones who are actually fighting in Kashmir. The ones in Kashmir do not have a local political agenda. The ones with local agendas have Pajero driving leaders who have kids studying in the USA (yet the criticize the USA at the same time). They are all bark and little bite. However, without an economic lifeline, they could turn many Pakistanis against the govt. Now with a US lifeline, I think Musharraf has thrown the challenge to them, also. Otherwise, there is no way he could have accepted, ``all`` US demands. In my opinion, the moment any major riots start in Pakistan, the US will make a major announcement of debt removal or something, which will comb down the populace.

Depending on what Pakistan gets in return from the US, and depending on how large of threat to the US remains after they get OBL, Pakistan`s position in the world could completely change. After that it is up to Pakistan, to utilize this position to its advantage.

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? #306 Posted by zeemax on April 2, 2008 10:07:14 am


yeah peeweemax...we're all scared of you...

ooh....big bad peeweemax...please don't hurt us...

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? what's this prophetboy? your moderate government at work? seems to me like they're on the side of the "militants"

well...to plan B...hellfires...

NWFP Assembly condemns US

SAID ALAM KHAN and MOHAMMAD ASHFAQ
PESHAWAR - Through a unanimous resolution, the NWFP Assembly on Tuesday strongly condemned the statement of CIA Director Michael Hayden terming Pakistan’s tribal areas as direct threat to US, asked the federal government to take serious notice of the statement of US official.
The resolution also added that all the matters should be resolved through holding meaningful talks. The ANP’s Mian Iftikhar Hussain moved the jointly drafted resolution for which the speaker relaxed the rules with the consent of the House.
The PML-N Provincial Chief Pir Sabir Shah on a point of order diverted the attention of the House towards the statement issued by the CIA chief and termed it as direct threat to the country as well as interference and attack on sovereignty of their country.

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? #193 Posted by slyder. on April 1, 2008 10:44:58 am

jihadi1: after your elections, you told us the predator strikes would now end and your jihadi brothers and sisters wouldn't be sent to allah by the hellfires...

funny how it didn't turn out that way...

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? The reality was reported in the paki press. It was even posted on a paki blog..

if the vast majority of pakis are too self-deluded(or chutiyas) to close their eyes to the reality, there's nothing anyone can do..

take, for example, the paki government's claim on per capita income..even an ivy league grad like manto was into the whole self-delusion thing..

Real income growth lags behind Asia

By Yousuf Nazar

Pakistan ranks as the seventh most dangerous country after Iraq, Sudan, Israel, Russia, Nigeria, and Columbia in a 121-nation study by the Economist Intelligence Unit.

While such rankings can be subjective (it may be the 10th or 11th), this is not good news for the government which claims that Pakistan has made unprecedented economic progress during its tenure, recording one of the highest GDP growth rates.

The reality is Pakistan’s per capita GDP growth has been one of the lowest in Asia and below the average of all low-income countries during 1999-2005, when measured in purchasing power parity terms as per the data in the World Bank’s Development Indicators released on April 15, 2007.

The government uses statistics to make claims that cannot stand simple logical test and independent validation. For example, it cites the rise in per capita GDP to $833 in 2006 to support its claim that incomes have doubled in the past 6-7 years and Pakistan will soon become a middle-income country. This is simply misleading. The analysis based on the World Bank’s statistics reveals the true picture of the economic growth in Pakistan relative to the other developing countries.

A widely recognised indicator of the level of prosperity is gross domestic product (GDP) on purchasing power parity (PPP) basis. Since nominal prices of different goods and services vary from country to country, this method of measurement neutralises those nominal differences by comparing what a similar basket of goods and services would cost in different countries. Hence, GDP measured on purchasing power parity basis is considered a more accurate measure of income level and standard of living.

As shown in the graph, Pakistan’s yearly per capita income growth rate was only 4.62 per cent during 1999-2005 and lagged behind not just India’s 7.3 per cent but also that of similar developing countries with large populations, like Indonesia, Turkey, and the Philippines. These growth rates were derived from GDP per capita data on purchasing power parity basis, as published by the World Bank.

While one-year data should not be used to comment on longer term trends, the above data for the six years belies government’s claims about one of the highest growth rates in the world and confirms the belief that the benefits of growth during the recent years have been somewhat eroded by a persistently high inflation. It is only logical that Pakistan with one of highest inflation rates in the developing world should see a slower growth in the real incomes and living standards when the rest of it is growing at 6-7 per cent with lower inflation averaging about 4-5 per cent compared to Pakistan’s 8-9 per cent. Hence these indicators are unlikely to change materially in one or two years.

Other important World Bank development indicators (2005) also confirm the view that Pakistan remains behind its peers as shown below:

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? #178 Posted by GT on April 1, 2008 7:02:48 am


the govt. overestimated the GROWTH of wheat,


If the definition of overestimate was changed to "pulled a number out of their rears to show a certain GDP growth rate" then yes, they overestimated it..

http://www.dawn.com/2007/09/24/ebr2.htm

Surviving Musharraf\'s Exit? #172 Posted by CreateAlpha on April 1, 2008 6:42:05 am


your friend slimy chuhan doesn't know his head from his ass


peeweemax knows his head from his ass...

outer container: ass..
empty container inside the outer container: head..