What Talibanization?
If muslims calm down about sex they'll stop blowing things up and making life difficult for everyone else :)
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Aug 14, 2008 12:05 pm
I think the intrinsic problem with these people is that they don't quite ever get laid, (possibly because they're ugly.. inter alia e.g. the fat mutant hijabis of al-huda ) thus it irks them to no end if they discover or suspect anyone else enjoying their existance at all... this is the force that drives fundamentalists.... the desire to ensure that everyone is as utterly miserable as they are themselves.If muslims calm down about sex they'll stop blowing things up and making life difficult for everyone else :)
And then there was The Impeachment Issue…
Therein thus lies a logical and justified basis that the restoration of the judiciary and the impeachment of the President will better Pakistan (at least some of it). The criminals will make some money and the nation will descend yet even further to pave the way for a glorious Obama to lead his garrisons down Constitutional Avenue.
The beneficiaries will be those of you (of which there are so many it seems) who find such orgasmic delight in McDonald's and other manna from the heaven of corporate America, and particularly the likes of masadi who seems to have made a career of savouring the succulence of yiddish john thomas.
This is almost laughable....Enjoy your democracy :)
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Aug 8, 2008 05:58 am
The whoring civilians were feeling a little impoverished after so many years of not being able to pilfer the public's money and so decided to sell some more national integrity to the Americans .. thus the elections, which brought forth Navaz and Zardari .. two of the filthiest criminals the World has ever seen. What follows I'm sure you're all aware of. Therein thus lies a logical and justified basis that the restoration of the judiciary and the impeachment of the President will better Pakistan (at least some of it). The criminals will make some money and the nation will descend yet even further to pave the way for a glorious Obama to lead his garrisons down Constitutional Avenue.
The beneficiaries will be those of you (of which there are so many it seems) who find such orgasmic delight in McDonald's and other manna from the heaven of corporate America, and particularly the likes of masadi who seems to have made a career of savouring the succulence of yiddish john thomas.
This is almost laughable....Enjoy your democracy :)
Fissures in the Middle
The military budget of $4.3 billion includes all foreign aid/loans etc which accounts for an estimated 30% of the total. Debts are paid from monies earmarked for defense spending in subsequent fiscal years.
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 30, 2008 05:04 pm
#20 The military budget of $4.3 billion includes all foreign aid/loans etc which accounts for an estimated 30% of the total. Debts are paid from monies earmarked for defense spending in subsequent fiscal years.
Fissures in the Middle
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=ab2gvZHGjRVI&ref er=india
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Pakistan
http://www.glob alsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/pakistan/2008/pakistan-080610-irna01.htm
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 30, 2008 04:57 pm
Such information is generally available online.. heres just some citations.. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=ab2gvZHGjRVI&ref er=india
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Pakistan
http://www.glob alsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/pakistan/2008/pakistan-080610-irna01.htm
Fissures in the Middle
The revenues and expenditures of the government, is what is taken from the public in taxation, this results in the yearly budget. This is only a fraction of the GDP being the sum of approximately $17 billion.
The Pakistan military is funded by less than one-forth of this budget or $4.3 billion for the year 2008, making the cost of maintaining the military only about 4.5% of the GDP of Pakistan.
The idea that the military is sucking the nation dry is unto itself a total load of rubbish. It is mere luck and happenstance that the military form a naturally ordered bureaucracy fit to govern adequately compared to the inherently corrupt and petty civilian leadership which is totally incapable of governance.
This hankering for democracy is just greed and treason.
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 30, 2008 11:55 am
The GDP of a nation is the end sum market value goods and services that nation produces in that year. For Pakistan this is the sum of approximately $505 billion for the year 2008. The revenues and expenditures of the government, is what is taken from the public in taxation, this results in the yearly budget. This is only a fraction of the GDP being the sum of approximately $17 billion.
The Pakistan military is funded by less than one-forth of this budget or $4.3 billion for the year 2008, making the cost of maintaining the military only about 4.5% of the GDP of Pakistan.
The idea that the military is sucking the nation dry is unto itself a total load of rubbish. It is mere luck and happenstance that the military form a naturally ordered bureaucracy fit to govern adequately compared to the inherently corrupt and petty civilian leadership which is totally incapable of governance.
This hankering for democracy is just greed and treason.
Feminist Mumbo-Jumbo!
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 24, 2008 11:14 am
The patriarchy is catagorically wrong .. in as much as it is the root of capitalism .. having said that .. feminism is non consequential .. being a mere reaction and an ideology founded in creating meaningless positive-discriminations and mere stop-gap solutions.. but no actual remedies.
Why is Karachi Turning Into a Sell-Out?
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 21, 2008 06:26 am
We should not pander to the pro-democracy/imperialistic agendas of thelikes of Geo etc
Why is Karachi Turning Into a Sell-Out?
The media is a very powerful and effective tool. It has been effectively used by Israel to change the image common Americans have about Jews. By carefully portraying the Holocaust they have monopolised World sympathy in their favour. Compare this to the much larger scale genocide of American Indians and Africans during the slave trade which nobody hears about. So powerful is this persuasion via the media that it makes the world ignore the genocide of Palestinians by once persecuted Jews. The third World should make maximum investment in developing its media to control the media warfare of the West. The West's export of the culture of racism under the false pretence of freedom should be intellectually challenged.
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 21, 2008 06:20 am
The media is a very powerful and effective tool. It has been effectively used by Israel to change the image common Americans have about Jews. By carefully portraying the Holocaust they have monopolised World sympathy in their favour. Compare this to the much larger scale genocide of American Indians and Africans during the slave trade which nobody hears about. So powerful is this persuasion via the media that it makes the world ignore the genocide of Palestinians by once persecuted Jews. The third World should make maximum investment in developing its media to control the media warfare of the West. The West's export of the culture of racism under the false pretence of freedom should be intellectually challenged.
Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 21, 2008 04:28 am
:) this is almost amusing ...like baiting a bully kuta tied to a post.
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You in fact have as much chance as a cocker spaniel at "stumping" me because seemingly you know nothing at all and say nothing which is even remotely relevant to my contentions. You are merely hell-bent on boot licking, although the egotistical ramblings that you spew are so poor and incoherent that I wonder why you bother at all.
Here's some reading for you to do.. for a change.. You should read sometimes you know.. it helps ..
-American History and American Democracy Author(s): Andrew C. McLaughlin Source: The American Historical Review, Vol. 20, No. 2, (JA1915), pp. 255-276
-The Old World Background to European Colonial Slavery Author(s): Robin Blackburn Source: The William and Mary Quarterly, Third Series, Vol. 54, No. 1, (JA1997), pp. 65-102
-Feudalism aka American Capitalism by David F. Mind Mined Prods.
-Capitalism, Slavery and Ideology Author(s): Howard Temperley Source: Past and Present, No. 75, (MA1977), pp. 94-118
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 21, 2008 03:12 am
masadi... it seems pointless.. all I can say is that you yet again by way of your incoherent, non-objective, pro-western brown-nosing show yourself as foolish, petty and basically illiterate.. The CIA yet again proves its incompetence by failing to even vet their lackeys properly.You in fact have as much chance as a cocker spaniel at "stumping" me because seemingly you know nothing at all and say nothing which is even remotely relevant to my contentions. You are merely hell-bent on boot licking, although the egotistical ramblings that you spew are so poor and incoherent that I wonder why you bother at all.
Here's some reading for you to do.. for a change.. You should read sometimes you know.. it helps ..
-American History and American Democracy Author(s): Andrew C. McLaughlin Source: The American Historical Review, Vol. 20, No. 2, (JA1915), pp. 255-276
-The Old World Background to European Colonial Slavery Author(s): Robin Blackburn Source: The William and Mary Quarterly, Third Series, Vol. 54, No. 1, (JA1997), pp. 65-102
-Feudalism aka American Capitalism by David F. Mind Mined Prods.
-Capitalism, Slavery and Ideology Author(s): Howard Temperley Source: Past and Present, No. 75, (MA1977), pp. 94-118
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Out of curiousity..
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 20, 2008 09:59 am
Btw does anyone have any idea how old masadi is ?Out of curiousity..
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His dedication to democracy seems rather schizophrenic. How can it be that the ideology of his enemy is so sacrosanct to him?
Perhaps it is because he himself in fact represents the interests of Western imperialism...
Or perhaps its because he doesn't really know what he's talking about and believes that if he makes enough meaningless noise someone might pay attention to him .. (it seems to have worked in the case of majumdar .. whom I think should be christened "Igor".
There are no democracies in the World which are not capitalist with perhaps the exception of Cuba which too is going that way.
Masadi watches too much TV it seems. The democracy of American PR and the lifestyle advertising agitprop which is beamed across the World ...( in so far as according rights and benefits to citizens over the interests of the capitalist and industry) does not exist and has not ever existed nor shall ever exist on planet earth.
To quote him..
"In other words, Pakistan should remain a feudal state with military dictators incorporting themselves with the feudals to dictate to the people as if they were their slaves! Fantastic recommendation. This person is an ignoramus. Without overthrowing the feudals the bourgeoisie revolution can never occur, it is simply not possible and didn't occur in Europe and certainly not in the US where a violent civil war ended all remants of feudalism that wanted to establish itself. Democracy has nothing to do with such economic systems of tyranny".
This rambling only goes to show you know nothing about the US or Europe and simply believe blindly in their advertising.
My dear masadi.. the US and Europe .. the so called bastions of democracy are in fact culturally, socially and politically seeped in feudalism to such an extent to make waderas from interior Sindh look like socialists... I know .. I deal with these people everyday. Wealth always remains crystallised, and this so called democracy you advocate only goes to revoke that pittance of welfare the Pakistani citizenry may receive by default in terms of stability of governance by the military. The civilian politicians just want to make money and are too illiterate or myopic to do anything else.. being the very feudals you seem to despise .. or do you .. ? more schizophrenia.
My low regard as you put it of civilians as mostly just petty profiteers, illiterate peasants, traitors and mullahs is not a statement of disputable opinion but simple fact.. look around you.
I nevertheless am not suggesting that Pakistan is not fit for democracy .. For whatever loyalties I have for Pakistan .. I'm merely suggesting that democracy is not fit for Pakistan. ... It most certainly is not what it appears to be.
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 20, 2008 09:39 am
From the gist of the rambling nonsense below in #273 the West and the US according to masadi and his acolytes, are intrinsically wrong in every regard being imperialists and having machinated against the interests of Pakistan etc etc.. through from the days of the British colonies to recently under US unilateral aggression and their naked imperialism. His dedication to democracy seems rather schizophrenic. How can it be that the ideology of his enemy is so sacrosanct to him?
Perhaps it is because he himself in fact represents the interests of Western imperialism...
Or perhaps its because he doesn't really know what he's talking about and believes that if he makes enough meaningless noise someone might pay attention to him .. (it seems to have worked in the case of majumdar .. whom I think should be christened "Igor".
There are no democracies in the World which are not capitalist with perhaps the exception of Cuba which too is going that way.
Masadi watches too much TV it seems. The democracy of American PR and the lifestyle advertising agitprop which is beamed across the World ...( in so far as according rights and benefits to citizens over the interests of the capitalist and industry) does not exist and has not ever existed nor shall ever exist on planet earth.
To quote him..
"In other words, Pakistan should remain a feudal state with military dictators incorporting themselves with the feudals to dictate to the people as if they were their slaves! Fantastic recommendation. This person is an ignoramus. Without overthrowing the feudals the bourgeoisie revolution can never occur, it is simply not possible and didn't occur in Europe and certainly not in the US where a violent civil war ended all remants of feudalism that wanted to establish itself. Democracy has nothing to do with such economic systems of tyranny".
This rambling only goes to show you know nothing about the US or Europe and simply believe blindly in their advertising.
My dear masadi.. the US and Europe .. the so called bastions of democracy are in fact culturally, socially and politically seeped in feudalism to such an extent to make waderas from interior Sindh look like socialists... I know .. I deal with these people everyday. Wealth always remains crystallised, and this so called democracy you advocate only goes to revoke that pittance of welfare the Pakistani citizenry may receive by default in terms of stability of governance by the military. The civilian politicians just want to make money and are too illiterate or myopic to do anything else.. being the very feudals you seem to despise .. or do you .. ? more schizophrenia.
My low regard as you put it of civilians as mostly just petty profiteers, illiterate peasants, traitors and mullahs is not a statement of disputable opinion but simple fact.. look around you.
I nevertheless am not suggesting that Pakistan is not fit for democracy .. For whatever loyalties I have for Pakistan .. I'm merely suggesting that democracy is not fit for Pakistan. ... It most certainly is not what it appears to be.
Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 19, 2008 10:40 am
Why was I flagged I wonder? Nothing I said was unjustified or offensive .. Is it because even chowk.com has been hijacked by fundamentalists
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masadi & co & the concerned public
Anyone who imagines that Pakistan can survive in any form without the military is utterly disconnected with reality to the extent of being delusional or malicious.
I think these people fall into 3 camps. They are those who:
1) Do not rightly understand what democracy actually is.
2) Are mere methodists and cargo-cultists, and imagine that just the simple addition of democracy will somehow solve their problems.
3) Are genuinely malicious and have a vested interest in promoting democracy to the perceived end of enhancing their personal power and wealth.
(These first two groups are victims are of advertising and the last group consists of out local politicians and the CIA and the likes of masadi (who I'm sure is paid by some party adverse to national interests).
Capitalist democracy is an intrinsically Western and European idea, and even most Western democracies did not extend franchise to the more disaffected and "ideologically challenged" elements of their citizenry until they were sure that they posed no challenge to the over-arching status-quo of the economy in question.
Prior to this the church and the aristocracy through sheer brute force built and held areas of land and populations as "nations" . The integrity of the nation is and remains integrally and implicitly sacrosanct and the democracy came later in phases as Western feudalism metamorphosed into capitalism.
Pakistan simply does not have this kind of capital. We are by no means a nation and there's no disputing that. Nor do we have the institutional integrity or indeed infra-structure (social or otherwise) to sustain a democracy.
Pakistan's aspirations to democracy are like a caveman longing to buy a fighter jet and America's promotion of democracy is like selling fighter jets to cavemen because they know that nothing will come of the purchase except their own profit.
There is no successful democracy is the World, which allows the public to decide as to any other issue other than the face of the dictator who shall rule them for the next term. This is true of every Western democracy which each have the institutional and social capital behind them to allow for this capricious little throw of the dice to decide the temporal direction of their nation....Democracy is only good for for this, not for nation building and not for the shaping of the very institutions that allow democracy to exist.
These have to come from higher ideals such as patriotism and pride in nationhood and the concerted efforts of the powerful to the common end .. all things which Pakistanis and indeed Muslims can never achieve.
The military may be incompetent bastards to a man.. but its all Pakistan has to show for itself in terms of institutional capital. Its actually all we have .. as the civilians are "mostly" just petty profiteers, illiterate peasants, traitors and mullahs. (emphasis on mostly for those who might get offended)
If the military loses power, Pakistan will cease to be. If Iran is to be invaded and India's economy is to be checked Pakistan must destabilise. As I have maintained before.. the US instigated these previous elections in a bid to destabilise.. since then this is the third time Obama brought up the issue of invasion.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2182955.e ce
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 19, 2008 07:27 am
#250masadi & co & the concerned public
Anyone who imagines that Pakistan can survive in any form without the military is utterly disconnected with reality to the extent of being delusional or malicious.
I think these people fall into 3 camps. They are those who:
1) Do not rightly understand what democracy actually is.
2) Are mere methodists and cargo-cultists, and imagine that just the simple addition of democracy will somehow solve their problems.
3) Are genuinely malicious and have a vested interest in promoting democracy to the perceived end of enhancing their personal power and wealth.
(These first two groups are victims are of advertising and the last group consists of out local politicians and the CIA and the likes of masadi (who I'm sure is paid by some party adverse to national interests).
Capitalist democracy is an intrinsically Western and European idea, and even most Western democracies did not extend franchise to the more disaffected and "ideologically challenged" elements of their citizenry until they were sure that they posed no challenge to the over-arching status-quo of the economy in question.
Prior to this the church and the aristocracy through sheer brute force built and held areas of land and populations as "nations" . The integrity of the nation is and remains integrally and implicitly sacrosanct and the democracy came later in phases as Western feudalism metamorphosed into capitalism.
Pakistan simply does not have this kind of capital. We are by no means a nation and there's no disputing that. Nor do we have the institutional integrity or indeed infra-structure (social or otherwise) to sustain a democracy.
Pakistan's aspirations to democracy are like a caveman longing to buy a fighter jet and America's promotion of democracy is like selling fighter jets to cavemen because they know that nothing will come of the purchase except their own profit.
There is no successful democracy is the World, which allows the public to decide as to any other issue other than the face of the dictator who shall rule them for the next term. This is true of every Western democracy which each have the institutional and social capital behind them to allow for this capricious little throw of the dice to decide the temporal direction of their nation....Democracy is only good for for this, not for nation building and not for the shaping of the very institutions that allow democracy to exist.
These have to come from higher ideals such as patriotism and pride in nationhood and the concerted efforts of the powerful to the common end .. all things which Pakistanis and indeed Muslims can never achieve.
The military may be incompetent bastards to a man.. but its all Pakistan has to show for itself in terms of institutional capital. Its actually all we have .. as the civilians are "mostly" just petty profiteers, illiterate peasants, traitors and mullahs. (emphasis on mostly for those who might get offended)
If the military loses power, Pakistan will cease to be. If Iran is to be invaded and India's economy is to be checked Pakistan must destabilise. As I have maintained before.. the US instigated these previous elections in a bid to destabilise.. since then this is the third time Obama brought up the issue of invasion.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2182955.e ce
Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 18, 2008 06:47 am
Perhaps if Pakistani passports put more emphasis on being "Pakistani" than on being Muslim .. we wouldn't have five or so separatist movements, droves of terrorists and traitors on our Northern borders, a failing economy, unreconcilable poverty and the general needless persecution of anybody who isn't a wahabi/deobandi/taliban/hijabi/beardy or whatever the fashionable faith is these days.
Pakistan’s Prevailing Political And Economic Mess
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Jul 18, 2008 06:26 am
#12 sometimes I feel so proud to be a Pakistani..
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