Fatima Bhutto Fighting for Justice
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 23, 2008 11:43 am
Theres only a few of them left .. the most dangerous being Zardari and his whelp... can some patriot please put them out of their misery..
Nipa Chowrangi
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 16, 2008 08:20 am
Perhaps its wiser to legalise only the beating of women who identify themselves as Muslims.. and let all the normal people get on with their lives... after all ... they surely must as Muslim women condone themselves being given a good beating now and them...
30 Days in Afghanistan - Dinner Conversations
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 15, 2008 02:40 pm
#83.. :) yeah they did .. even the kids got beer in ancient egypt.. though they say it was rather sweet, thick and not very bubbly..at an interesting 6-8%.... a bit like Muree Classic.. and caused flatulence..
Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 15, 2008 02:19 pm
#179..I wonder how many mullahs they can put into Khewra..
Persecution of Religious Minorities In Islamic Countries
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 15, 2008 01:57 pm
Are you kidding.. persecution of minorities is central to all religion... If there was no persecution then what's the point... we might as well become heathen communists...
30 Days in Afghanistan - Dinner Conversations
The very word "alcohol" is derived from Arabic, as it was Abassid muslims, (the scientist Jabir ibn Hayyaan) who actually invented the distillation of ethanol fit for human consumption, as a viable chemical process, (in the days when muslims weren't illiterate monkeys).
Part of the circumstances which led to such discovery was was because the word "khamer" as mentioned in the quran was held to strictly refer only to fermented grapes rather than any other beverage. This view is still maintained by Hanafis and some sufi orders and indeed by most arabic linguists, to which end all other alcohol (particularly mead made from honey recommended by the prophet) is legal in islamic law, before corruption by wahabism.
Alcohol was in fact also legal in Pakistan until Bhutto sold out to the mullahs.
The Islam that is being you advocate has nothing to do with "civilisation" or humanity at all... It is precisely the likes of you that has had muslims devolve into pathetic, pitiful illiterate monkeys who start jumping up and down and bombing shops at the very sight of a Beyonce CD.
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 15, 2008 12:36 pm
To begin with, alcohol and dancing...(allegedly major vices as compared to honour killings and amputations) are not alien to Islamic "civilisation", for instance arak and raki etc have been produced in the muslim middle-east for centuries, also in antiquity the Caliph Haroon-ul-Raheed was noted for having a very sophisticated palate and the richest wine-cellar in the known world. The very word "alcohol" is derived from Arabic, as it was Abassid muslims, (the scientist Jabir ibn Hayyaan) who actually invented the distillation of ethanol fit for human consumption, as a viable chemical process, (in the days when muslims weren't illiterate monkeys).
Part of the circumstances which led to such discovery was was because the word "khamer" as mentioned in the quran was held to strictly refer only to fermented grapes rather than any other beverage. This view is still maintained by Hanafis and some sufi orders and indeed by most arabic linguists, to which end all other alcohol (particularly mead made from honey recommended by the prophet) is legal in islamic law, before corruption by wahabism.
Alcohol was in fact also legal in Pakistan until Bhutto sold out to the mullahs.
The Islam that is being you advocate has nothing to do with "civilisation" or humanity at all... It is precisely the likes of you that has had muslims devolve into pathetic, pitiful illiterate monkeys who start jumping up and down and bombing shops at the very sight of a Beyonce CD.
Still Looking!
As you condone arranged marriages, thus this "person" element of you is such that it acknowledges itself second to the commodities sought to be acquired by your prospective in-laws, I don't think therefore there remains much to be appreciated.
What from your petty bourgeoisie perspective seems the reason to write a somewhat amusing article, is the basis for slavery, stove-deaths, honour killings and rapes amongst the other untold suffering of millions of Pakistani women.
This is all in very poor taste.
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 7, 2008 02:05 pm
You seem on one hand to condone arranged marriages, in essence vindicating the notion that your virginity, labour and child-bearing capabilities are commodities beyond your own jurisdiction, which for all intents and purposes summate you for the purposes of marriage, yet at the same time you seem to want your "person" to be appreciated by the other parties to the transaction in question. As you condone arranged marriages, thus this "person" element of you is such that it acknowledges itself second to the commodities sought to be acquired by your prospective in-laws, I don't think therefore there remains much to be appreciated.
What from your petty bourgeoisie perspective seems the reason to write a somewhat amusing article, is the basis for slavery, stove-deaths, honour killings and rapes amongst the other untold suffering of millions of Pakistani women.
This is all in very poor taste.
Can the Judiciary Save the Coalition?
Nevertheless although it is acceptable and indeed imperative (in an ideal world) for the Pakistani judiciary to be an independent power structure, the inevitably impoverished nature of our Parliamentarians in every instance, shall always be the nation's undoing. In effect the very democratic process in Pakistan will compel judicial activism and/or result in a weak, subservient judiciary. A democratically elected Pakistani parliament, representative of the will of the people, shall thus pursue injustice by default, which is why an independent Judiciary is simply not compatible with Pakistani democracy.
Similarly the quality of other institutions such as the Police and other related agencies, by which the Judiciary enforces its jurisdiction leave much to be desired.
Pakistani institutions have to be established from the top-down, rather than any of those other ways recommended by the Americans. Sensibly, and indeed following every other successful government and nation in history; the institutions come first, the democracy and the will of the public later. These previous elections were simply machinations on the part of a number of power-hungry actors, imperialists and their lackeys to dislodge the military for fear that any actual progress, change in status-quo or stability may be attained. The role of the Judiciary, in so far as its intentions in all of this thus becomes suspect.
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 7, 2008 08:02 am
As a lawyer, I strongly believe that an independent judiciary must always exist in any national power structure, mainly to check the other institutions, to which end judicial activism is invariably an important tool. Nevertheless although it is acceptable and indeed imperative (in an ideal world) for the Pakistani judiciary to be an independent power structure, the inevitably impoverished nature of our Parliamentarians in every instance, shall always be the nation's undoing. In effect the very democratic process in Pakistan will compel judicial activism and/or result in a weak, subservient judiciary. A democratically elected Pakistani parliament, representative of the will of the people, shall thus pursue injustice by default, which is why an independent Judiciary is simply not compatible with Pakistani democracy.
Similarly the quality of other institutions such as the Police and other related agencies, by which the Judiciary enforces its jurisdiction leave much to be desired.
Pakistani institutions have to be established from the top-down, rather than any of those other ways recommended by the Americans. Sensibly, and indeed following every other successful government and nation in history; the institutions come first, the democracy and the will of the public later. These previous elections were simply machinations on the part of a number of power-hungry actors, imperialists and their lackeys to dislodge the military for fear that any actual progress, change in status-quo or stability may be attained. The role of the Judiciary, in so far as its intentions in all of this thus becomes suspect.
The Power of Faith
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 6, 2008 05:01 pm
Reading these interacts, there seems to be some discussion of about the past heroic glories of historical Islamic civilisations and their achievements. I would like to point out that those civilisations had nothing to do whatsoever with this pathetic illiterate post-wahabi excrement that these interactors are trying so desperately to justify.
The Power of Faith
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 5, 2008 09:21 am
Although the images of giraffes and wolves are very lovely and all that, they are absolutely no basis to justify the promotion of belief in essentially dangerous nonsensical fantasies, which result in promoting total ignorance, the justification of the capitalist and beneficiary status-quos and illegal governments, the oppressing and mutilating of women, keeping populations totally illiterate, amputations and dismemberment and all that general foolishness which makes religious people so much less than what humans can be, amongst all the other fruits of organised religion.
Dumbing Down Parliament....Again!
So the solution......lets hand the country over to known and proven criminals, who also happen to be illiterate as well....... Truly Brilliant
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 3, 2008 03:48 am
Re #32So the solution......lets hand the country over to known and proven criminals, who also happen to be illiterate as well....... Truly Brilliant
Dumbing Down Parliament....Again!
If you are capable (which I doubt) of setting aside your idiocies, I would like you to address the fact that removal of the educational requisites for our Parliamentarians is essentially the creation of a leeway for criminals to run the country. This reflects the quality of the electorate who choose this, foreseeably only to allow for their criminality to prosper as lackeys and vassals of their masters.
You thus must be a criminal if you support this.
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 2, 2008 03:46 pm
Again.. I may be whatever I am.. a pretentious imbecile etc etc.. that's not what I'm seeking to defend, all of which nevertheless has nothing to do with what I'm saying, though I must say nothing of the impotent likes of you can effectively rip anything as far as I'm concerned. If you are capable (which I doubt) of setting aside your idiocies, I would like you to address the fact that removal of the educational requisites for our Parliamentarians is essentially the creation of a leeway for criminals to run the country. This reflects the quality of the electorate who choose this, foreseeably only to allow for their criminality to prosper as lackeys and vassals of their masters.
You thus must be a criminal if you support this.
Dumbing Down Parliament....Again!
Its interesting that all you people can produce is these half baked, essentially ad-homonym statements, rather than even attempt to rebut what I say in any rational fashion.
I think this is either because you're totally immature people with no real idea about anything or totally immoral individuals who will go to any lengths to reconcile their essentially petty bourgeoisie/pro-western cargo-cultic aspirations with the disgraceful travesty that Pakistan has become.
The very reason by which you find yourself resenting what I say is the very reason the nation is in the state it is.
Posted by
Leadenwinter
May 2, 2008 06:05 am
Re #26 and #28Its interesting that all you people can produce is these half baked, essentially ad-homonym statements, rather than even attempt to rebut what I say in any rational fashion.
I think this is either because you're totally immature people with no real idea about anything or totally immoral individuals who will go to any lengths to reconcile their essentially petty bourgeoisie/pro-western cargo-cultic aspirations with the disgraceful travesty that Pakistan has become.
The very reason by which you find yourself resenting what I say is the very reason the nation is in the state it is.
Dumbing Down Parliament....Again!
I wonder by where in your infinite muslim wisdom did you conclude that I was an Indian.. ?
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Apr 30, 2008 04:44 pm
Re#26I wonder by where in your infinite muslim wisdom did you conclude that I was an Indian.. ?
Dumbing Down Parliament....Again!
Unlike being informed by the idiotic islamic semi-literate rubbish you incessantly spew Mr. Tahir, I am merely informed by objective common sense.
The Pakistani public are indeed traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes... hankering for democracy as prompted by their own lack of moral fibre and incitement by their friends in the US...in the same cargo-cult-like manner they hanker after mobile phones, MTV and other western consumer goods/lifestyle..
Democracy is requisite to the Pakistani elite and middle classes, as it is in effect authorisation and solicitude for them to perpetrate the corruption and manifest the criminality as well as the general ineptitude and administrative malpractice that Pakistan is world-famous for.
Democracy is well and truly in this case.. "by the people for the people"...
This is precisely why Benazir and her husband, both known and proven criminals (by courts other than, as well as Pakistani Courts.. i.e Spain and the UK to name a few ) were readmitted into the country. This is why Navaz Sharif, a known and proven criminal, also brother to a known and proven murderer was allowed to stand for public office.
This is the only and exclusive basis for these previous elections.
Pakistanis only want democracy because it allows them to be Pakistanis as compared to being human beings.
The quality of leadership the people of Pakistan hanker after .. (evidenced by the numbers that responded when Benazir turned up and Sharif's popular support ) .. reflects only the quality of the people of Pakistan... as traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes.
These are truths we shall have to admit to and address before any progress can be made.
No amount of education of the leadership can ever result in any improvement. It is every member of the public who has to be educated before democracy can ever work, (if indeed democracy is even nessessary). This is a point which has been proved by every European democracy, which only very gradually allowed adult franchise to different social demographics.
Before that day comes only a dictatorship can work as suffering only thing muslims understand.
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Apr 30, 2008 07:49 am
Re # 18Unlike being informed by the idiotic islamic semi-literate rubbish you incessantly spew Mr. Tahir, I am merely informed by objective common sense.
The Pakistani public are indeed traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes... hankering for democracy as prompted by their own lack of moral fibre and incitement by their friends in the US...in the same cargo-cult-like manner they hanker after mobile phones, MTV and other western consumer goods/lifestyle..
Democracy is requisite to the Pakistani elite and middle classes, as it is in effect authorisation and solicitude for them to perpetrate the corruption and manifest the criminality as well as the general ineptitude and administrative malpractice that Pakistan is world-famous for.
Democracy is well and truly in this case.. "by the people for the people"...
This is precisely why Benazir and her husband, both known and proven criminals (by courts other than, as well as Pakistani Courts.. i.e Spain and the UK to name a few ) were readmitted into the country. This is why Navaz Sharif, a known and proven criminal, also brother to a known and proven murderer was allowed to stand for public office.
This is the only and exclusive basis for these previous elections.
Pakistanis only want democracy because it allows them to be Pakistanis as compared to being human beings.
The quality of leadership the people of Pakistan hanker after .. (evidenced by the numbers that responded when Benazir turned up and Sharif's popular support ) .. reflects only the quality of the people of Pakistan... as traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes.
These are truths we shall have to admit to and address before any progress can be made.
No amount of education of the leadership can ever result in any improvement. It is every member of the public who has to be educated before democracy can ever work, (if indeed democracy is even nessessary). This is a point which has been proved by every European democracy, which only very gradually allowed adult franchise to different social demographics.
Before that day comes only a dictatorship can work as suffering only thing muslims understand.
Dumbing Down Parliament....Again!
Posted by
Leadenwinter
Apr 28, 2008 03:22 pm
What was wrong with the Military. They're a ready-made highly trained and educated bureaucracy.....oh yeah but sorry I forgot the Pakistani public consists mainly of traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes hankering for democracy.... Zardari is by far exactly what Pakistan deserves.
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