What is Hinduism? A Personal View
He is a very controversial figure when it comes to the Mughal History and the relationship between the Muslims and the Hindus ... check this out:
http://dilsenomad.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/re-revisiting-aurangzeb/
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dilsenomad1977
Feb 2, 2008 07:51 am
Was Aurengzeb as bad as they say he was???He is a very controversial figure when it comes to the Mughal History and the relationship between the Muslims and the Hindus ... check this out:
http://dilsenomad.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/re-revisiting-aurangzeb/
A History of the Pakistan Army by Brian Cloughley
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dilsenomad1977
Feb 2, 2008 07:49 am
If it is History you guys are interested in check this out too.. http://dilsenomad.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/re-revisiting-aurangzeb/
Pakistan\'s Universities - Problems and Solutions
As far as wills are concerned, as a last resort even in traditional sunni Islam you can give all your money to one child - it is not recommended - but I gather it is allowed. So if the situation is that bad ad your sons have forsaken you (aalaa Baghban isstyle) then you can bar them from your money by giving it to your daughter before you die.
And Allah knows best.
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dilsenomad1977
Jan 30, 2008 05:29 pm
Also, the law works as a system, not individual laws applied in a vacuum. Each law is applied with reference to other laws. It is the responsibility of the man to provide for his family according to Islamic law.So first eliminate this Islamic practise based on the modern consition that women work too, so a man is not respnsible for running the house .. but this is ISlamically and culturally impossible .. so if you start dishing out equal shares to your children, you are being unfair.As far as wills are concerned, as a last resort even in traditional sunni Islam you can give all your money to one child - it is not recommended - but I gather it is allowed. So if the situation is that bad ad your sons have forsaken you (aalaa Baghban isstyle) then you can bar them from your money by giving it to your daughter before you die.
And Allah knows best.
Pakistan\'s Universities - Problems and Solutions
The problem with Pakistan is that the best minds have set their eyes on lucrative professions such as engineering, law, IT etc. and not many intelligent people study the traditional Islamic sciences. As a result we are short of spokesmen for traditional Islam .. add to this the mallah culture and you have a serious problem on your hands. In this situation people with very shoddy credentials are taken as experts and their understanding is not sound. One can only hope that more of our educated class will get involved in traditional ISlamic education and convey to the generations to come the soundness of that understanding.
This obsession with reform is really misplaced. In the west scholars like Hamza Yusuf, Abdal Hakim Murad, Dr Umar Faruq, Abdullah Bin Bayyah etc. have been able to make such a huge impact. If you are interested check out my blog where I have
excellent links. You will find your questions answered there.
dilsenomad.wordpress.com
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dilsenomad1977
Jan 30, 2008 05:18 pm
tahmed32 I understand your concern, but as a few others have pointed out, contextualizing leads to numerous problems.The problem with Pakistan is that the best minds have set their eyes on lucrative professions such as engineering, law, IT etc. and not many intelligent people study the traditional Islamic sciences. As a result we are short of spokesmen for traditional Islam .. add to this the mallah culture and you have a serious problem on your hands. In this situation people with very shoddy credentials are taken as experts and their understanding is not sound. One can only hope that more of our educated class will get involved in traditional ISlamic education and convey to the generations to come the soundness of that understanding.
This obsession with reform is really misplaced. In the west scholars like Hamza Yusuf, Abdal Hakim Murad, Dr Umar Faruq, Abdullah Bin Bayyah etc. have been able to make such a huge impact. If you are interested check out my blog where I have
excellent links. You will find your questions answered there.
dilsenomad.wordpress.com
Pakistan\'s Universities - Problems and Solutions
In me you will find somebody who thinks on the same lines .. somebody for whom the Quran is the first source. Where I differ with you is only that I tend to focus on some of the problems we are facing .. specially our youth who have lost a sense of direction and purpose.I am at the same time full of hope, but am cognizant of the effort that is required to make a stand against the cultural imperialism.
From my negative comments you took the wrong idea and your comments were out of taste. In any case I apologize for giving you the wrong impression.
And Allah knows best.
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dilsenomad1977
Jan 30, 2008 12:33 pm
Dearest Uncle,In me you will find somebody who thinks on the same lines .. somebody for whom the Quran is the first source. Where I differ with you is only that I tend to focus on some of the problems we are facing .. specially our youth who have lost a sense of direction and purpose.I am at the same time full of hope, but am cognizant of the effort that is required to make a stand against the cultural imperialism.
From my negative comments you took the wrong idea and your comments were out of taste. In any case I apologize for giving you the wrong impression.
And Allah knows best.
Pakistan\'s Universities - Problems and Solutions
Or you probably mean by that statement that we never had those things ... again I would say get in touch with a historian .. I can suggest a few names:
Barnaby Rogerson
Karen Armstrong
Amitav Ghosh
Gai Eaton
or do you belive in the imagined construct of the linear direction of progress??
And also if I suffer from delusion, I must see a psychiatrist not a neurologist .. it is possibly a problem with my perception and not the physical wiring.
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dilsenomad1977
Jan 30, 2008 11:16 am
Uncle, cultural imperialism is a reality, if you are not acknowledging it, then I dont know who has fact confused with fiction.Or you probably mean by that statement that we never had those things ... again I would say get in touch with a historian .. I can suggest a few names:
Barnaby Rogerson
Karen Armstrong
Amitav Ghosh
Gai Eaton
or do you belive in the imagined construct of the linear direction of progress??
And also if I suffer from delusion, I must see a psychiatrist not a neurologist .. it is possibly a problem with my perception and not the physical wiring.
Pakistan\'s Universities - Problems and Solutions
Thanks Eklavya :)I meant disengaging with him .. not everyone else :)
Hey urstruly man that video looks doctored .. the guy in the middle doesnt move for a good ten seconds ... hmmm ..
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dilsenomad1977
Jan 30, 2008 10:58 am
Re: # 82Thanks Eklavya :)I meant disengaging with him .. not everyone else :)
Hey urstruly man that video looks doctored .. the guy in the middle doesnt move for a good ten seconds ... hmmm ..
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The Power of Ideas and the Modern University
tsk tsk .. he has got the stick from the wrong end .. we need educated people, we need Universities but before that we need work at the demand side, mate. All our nation cares about is how they can get the new nokia mobile and stuff like that.
We need a cultural revolution and the kind of University students he is talking about they wont be interested in such a revolution .. they fantasize about the greener pastures in the west ..
His understanding of social change is very elitist .. we need work at the grass roots .. we have the individuals but not the correct orientation towards civic responsibility.
... i think this is the modern desease .. more is better ..
If the western Universities were so adept at churning out revolutionaries all the pakis who go to them would not end up in anal professions: bankers, lawyers etc.
Anyways .. I have had enough of his progressive ideas.
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dilsenomad1977
Jan 30, 2008 10:56 am
Is this guy the spokesperson for the progressive Pakistani??tsk tsk .. he has got the stick from the wrong end .. we need educated people, we need Universities but before that we need work at the demand side, mate. All our nation cares about is how they can get the new nokia mobile and stuff like that.
We need a cultural revolution and the kind of University students he is talking about they wont be interested in such a revolution .. they fantasize about the greener pastures in the west ..
His understanding of social change is very elitist .. we need work at the grass roots .. we have the individuals but not the correct orientation towards civic responsibility.
... i think this is the modern desease .. more is better ..
If the western Universities were so adept at churning out revolutionaries all the pakis who go to them would not end up in anal professions: bankers, lawyers etc.
Anyways .. I have had enough of his progressive ideas.
Pakistan\'s Universities - Problems and Solutions
tahmed32: Just a comment on what you said, bro not everything can be changed because we think it suits the modern situation. The makasid of shariah law are at times not too obvious to experts let alone laymen. So it is best to trust in Allah and err in caution.
Secondly, in the case you mention it will be illogical to do what you suggest, even today not just in PK but in the modern west too, men are responsible for providing for their families .. men are responsible for taking care of their old parents, thus it is only fair to give them more. IN these times of obsession with political correctness vis a vis western humanistic values if we do as you propose we will be unjust.
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dilsenomad1977
Jan 30, 2008 10:26 am
Thanks for the headsup urstruly :) I am new and had no idea who this guy was .. you will see me disengage completely. I have no patience for people who are not willing to budge.tahmed32: Just a comment on what you said, bro not everything can be changed because we think it suits the modern situation. The makasid of shariah law are at times not too obvious to experts let alone laymen. So it is best to trust in Allah and err in caution.
Secondly, in the case you mention it will be illogical to do what you suggest, even today not just in PK but in the modern west too, men are responsible for providing for their families .. men are responsible for taking care of their old parents, thus it is only fair to give them more. IN these times of obsession with political correctness vis a vis western humanistic values if we do as you propose we will be unjust.
Pakistan\'s Universities - Problems and Solutions
Another thing .. yes, the west did create the noble television, which is now the strongest narcotic; yes the west did invent the internet and now the most successful business on the net are pornsites .. they certainly have liberated women; yes the west did surely, make scientific progress, ask peopple from Hiroshima how they have benefitted.
Modern man has been able to control the resources of the planet but has not matured spiritually and in his arrogance fails to see this problem ..
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dilsenomad1977
Jan 30, 2008 10:03 am
Re: # 77Another thing .. yes, the west did create the noble television, which is now the strongest narcotic; yes the west did invent the internet and now the most successful business on the net are pornsites .. they certainly have liberated women; yes the west did surely, make scientific progress, ask peopple from Hiroshima how they have benefitted.
Modern man has been able to control the resources of the planet but has not matured spiritually and in his arrogance fails to see this problem ..
Pakistan\'s Universities - Problems and Solutions
:)
Again I would say your understanding is based on very reductionist understandings, you should be aware of the fact that the majority of the Muslims condemn suicide bombings. The bombings are a result of a break from our traditional Islamic understandings .. and giving into the pseudo modernism many individuals espouse to .. yes in some human endeavours like you mention Muslims are not worthy of mention but the most important human endeavour is being human, my friend. And many in the glorious west are lagging far behind in this. People to this day appreciate the humanity of Muslims, for a change read and see what others have to say about their experiences in the Muslim world .. dont make an idol out of your own thoughts .. like the true modern person, be self critical and engender humility so you learn. Like socrates said: All i know is I know nothing.
If you love the west be like those in the West who are enlightened. Read history bro, many of the Muslim lands have been colonized by the west and they are still recovering.
Give us time and once again we will reign supreme because of our moral integrity and tolerance.
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dilsenomad1977
Jan 30, 2008 09:59 am
Re: # 73:)
Again I would say your understanding is based on very reductionist understandings, you should be aware of the fact that the majority of the Muslims condemn suicide bombings. The bombings are a result of a break from our traditional Islamic understandings .. and giving into the pseudo modernism many individuals espouse to .. yes in some human endeavours like you mention Muslims are not worthy of mention but the most important human endeavour is being human, my friend. And many in the glorious west are lagging far behind in this. People to this day appreciate the humanity of Muslims, for a change read and see what others have to say about their experiences in the Muslim world .. dont make an idol out of your own thoughts .. like the true modern person, be self critical and engender humility so you learn. Like socrates said: All i know is I know nothing.
If you love the west be like those in the West who are enlightened. Read history bro, many of the Muslim lands have been colonized by the west and they are still recovering.
Give us time and once again we will reign supreme because of our moral integrity and tolerance.
Pakistan\'s Universities - Problems and Solutions
Anyways, what Dr Hoodboy said has elements of truth to it, what he suggests are good short term strategies .. but I only wanted to point out the a reductionist view of the problem will not get is anywhere ... we need to be critical of the western science as much as our own traiditional understandings .. it would be disingenuous to apply critical rigour to one and not the other ..
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dilsenomad1977
Jan 30, 2008 08:22 am
This is what our discourse looks like .. ridicule .. this is the level of discussion. You have not given an argument against the claim made about the origins of algebra. Making fun about the argument is not answering the argument. Read what historians have to say about this question. The statement made is inline with serious scholarly work done by historians .. but our modern colonized mind can only respond with ridicule. Anyways, what Dr Hoodboy said has elements of truth to it, what he suggests are good short term strategies .. but I only wanted to point out the a reductionist view of the problem will not get is anywhere ... we need to be critical of the western science as much as our own traiditional understandings .. it would be disingenuous to apply critical rigour to one and not the other ..
Pakistan\'s Universities - Problems and Solutions
Thoughts expressed in the article are very much the stock for intellectuals in Pakistan who are pushing for engineering and sciences in a country that today is need of poets and social scientists, writers, and dramatists. Like many others for you the problem with Pakistan is its material progress, whereas, in truth the problems lies somewhere else. Our culture is dying, a culture which was full of beauty,wisdom, mercy, magnanimity, love, and patience. Individuals pushing for the sciences are the head of this project of throwing out the baby with the bath water .. anglophiles, colonized mentalities, lacking the critical eye which they claim they are promoting. An eye that is incapable of looking beyond the surface.
We are in desperate need of cultural craftsmen who can stop this deathly dance towards destruction, immorality and selfishness ...
What you fail to mention is that the HEC is sending many to study non-engineering subjects, we have historians, sociologists and anthropologists ... these disciplines now need to take center stage .. the engineers have just made a mess of things .. their world view is that just by having more we will be able to fix all the problems. The reality is that our country has the resources but it is distributed with injustice ... we need people to start a movement to awaken our collective conscience ..
And what you suggest will just make the situation worse .. resouces wasted again .. another dead end.
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Posted by
dilsenomad1977
Jan 30, 2008 07:44 am
Dr Hoodbhoy, I really appreciate your deconstruction of the claims made by the HEC. As one of my teacher says "I have never seen a revolutionary build the likes of what he destroys". To build something we need craftsmen but to destroy, anyone with a hammer will do". Getting to the point where as you are proficient at pointing out the obvious weaknesses of the project undertaken by the HEC, your suggestions are far from perfect. Thoughts expressed in the article are very much the stock for intellectuals in Pakistan who are pushing for engineering and sciences in a country that today is need of poets and social scientists, writers, and dramatists. Like many others for you the problem with Pakistan is its material progress, whereas, in truth the problems lies somewhere else. Our culture is dying, a culture which was full of beauty,wisdom, mercy, magnanimity, love, and patience. Individuals pushing for the sciences are the head of this project of throwing out the baby with the bath water .. anglophiles, colonized mentalities, lacking the critical eye which they claim they are promoting. An eye that is incapable of looking beyond the surface.
We are in desperate need of cultural craftsmen who can stop this deathly dance towards destruction, immorality and selfishness ...
What you fail to mention is that the HEC is sending many to study non-engineering subjects, we have historians, sociologists and anthropologists ... these disciplines now need to take center stage .. the engineers have just made a mess of things .. their world view is that just by having more we will be able to fix all the problems. The reality is that our country has the resources but it is distributed with injustice ... we need people to start a movement to awaken our collective conscience ..
And what you suggest will just make the situation worse .. resouces wasted again .. another dead end.
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