Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis Further reading:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV-ze9wiIqw

Note: The referenced book is in Urdu

Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis #175 sattar2
Quite eloquently Mirza Ghulam writes

Mirza Ghulam's Tirade against Jesus Christ(pbuh)
(In light of his own Writings)

Among his other claims, Mirza Ghulam also stated to be the Promised Messiah of the revelations and superior to Jesus(pbuh), the son of Mary(RA), in every aspect. However, when he became aware of the authentic teachings (Hadith) of our beloved Prophet Muhammad(SAW) confirming the fact that Jesus(pbuh) will descend before the end of this world, he had to resort to deception and treachery to misguide and impress the uninformed.

Naturally, all learned Muslims and Christians were disgusted that a person of such a questionable character would even dare to make such an outrageous claim. They could not reconcile Mirza's many faults with the perfection of the Messiah and refused to pay any attention to his claims. But, the claim to being the Messiah was an integral part of Mirza's satanic scheme to promote himself to prophethood; hence, he insisted in propagating his lies. Outraged Christians demanded that he perform miracles as Jesus(pbuh) had done and ridiculed him when he was unable to do so.

In return, Mirza resorted to making blasphemous statements about Jesus(pbuh), one of the greatest Prophets. Since Mirza was neither willing to correct his own moral and ethical flaws nor able to perform miracles, he could not have ever hoped to raise his own status to that of Jesus(pbuh) - whom he viewed as his competitor to messiahship. Instead, Mirza resorted to making desperate and slanderous remarks in an attempt to try to lower the status of Jesus(pbuh) to his own level!

Listed are some of the better known writings of Mirza Ghulam in this regard. I apologize, in advance, for any offense you might find at these writings - and hope that Allah(SWT) will forgive for having reproduced these blasphemous statements. Please be assured that no Muslim would hold these same beliefs.

Mirza Insults the Family of Jesus(pbuh)

* "Jesus's three paternal and maternal grandmothers were fornicators and prostitutes, from whose blood Jesus came into existence."(Anjam-i-Atham, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 11, P. 291, addenda; Anjam-i-Atham, P. 9, appendix)
* "You may have tried to find a solution to my claims about the Messiah's parental and maternal grandmothers. I am tired of thinking. Up to now, no nice solution has occurred to me. What a glorious God is HE whose paternal and maternal grandmothers are of such repute?"(Nur-ul-Quran, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 9, P. 394; Nur-ul-Quran, Vol. 2, P. 45)
* "Islam, unlike Christianity, does not teach us that God was born of a woman - and was fed by sucking blood from the womb of his mother for nine months - the blood which had the qualities of prostitutes like the daughters of Saba, Tamar, and Rabah." (Anjam-e-Athum, P. 41)
* "Jesus had an inclination for prostitutes perhaps due to his ancestral relationship with them..."(Anjam-i-Atham, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 11, P. 291, addenda)

Mirza Insults Mary(RA)

* "Mary's eminence is such that she put off her marriage for a long time, but after constant pressure of the community leaders, and due to her pregnancy, she accepted to get married. However, people raise objection about how she could have been married while pregnant, that being against the teachings of the Torah. People also object to Mary breaching the oath of celibacy. People also question why Mary set the foundation of polygamy. In other words, why did Mary agree to marry Joseph the carpenter, despite his being already married."(Kasthi-i-Nuh, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 19, P. 18; Kasthi-i-Nuh, P. 26)
* "Mary's hanging out with her fiancee Joseph before wedlock is a strong testimony of an Israelite custom.... Going out with fiancees among people in some frontier tribes had exceeded the limits to such an extent that sometimes pregnancy comes before wedlock, yet it is not looked down upon."(Ayyam-ul-Sulh, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 14, P. 300)
* "... Because the Messiah, son of Mary, had worked as a carpenter with his father Joseph for twenty two years, we know that he was able to invent different sorts of machines and instruments."(Azalah-i-Auham, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 3, P. 254)
* "Jesus's three paternal and maternal grandmothers were fornicators and prostitutes, from whose blood Jesus came into existence." [See: Mirza Insults the family of Jesus(pbuh)](Anjam-i-Atham, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 11, P. 291, addenda)
* "Jesus, The Messiah, had four brothers and two sisters; all of them were his real brothers and sisters. I mean that they all were the offspring of Joseph and Mary."
(Kashti-i-Nuh, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 19, P. 18)

Hope that everyone can readily see what Mirza Ghulam is insinuating here:

* It was common among Jews to go out with their fiancee and have premarital sex;
* Mary(RA) was a Jew and used to go out with his fiancee, Joseph;
* Mary(RA) broke her oath of celibacy (had multiple children);
* Joseph was the Father of Jesus(pbuh);
* Jesus(pbuh) had Paternal grandmothers (did Jesus(pbuh) even have a father?);
* Jesus(pbuh) had brothers/sisters and all were the children of Joseph and Mary(RA).

In short, Mirza insolently suggested that Mary(RA) had engaged in premarital sex with Joseph; and Jesus(pbuh) was the result of that fornication. Each one of these claims of Mirza are unfounded and untruthful charges.

Mirza Claims himself Superior to Jesus(pbuh)

* "To this nation, God sent His promised Messiah (Mirza), who is better than the first Messiah (Jesus) in all regards. I swear by God in whose hands my soul rests that if the Messiah, son of Mary, were my contemporary, he could not have done the works that I can do. Nor would he be able to match the signs (miracles) which I am bringing."
(Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 22, P. 152; Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, P. 148)
* "To this community, God sent the promised Messiah (Mirza) who is better in all glory that the first Messiah (Jesus) and calls this new Messiah Ghulam Ahmad."
(Dafi-ul-Bala, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 18, P. 233; Dafi-ul-Bala P. 27)
* "After all, when God and His Apostle (Muhammad(SAW)) and all the Prophets have declared the supremacy of the second Messiah (Mirza) of this period due to his great achievements; then, it is a satanic act to question me 'Why do you proclaim yourself superior to the first Messiah, the son of Mary?'."(Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 22, P. 159)

* "Give up all mention of the son of Mary, because Ghulam Ahmad is superior to him."(Dafi-ul-Bala, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 18, P. 240; Dafi-ul-Bala, P. 30)

Mirza Ghulam Qadiani abused Jesus(pbuh) and, in doing so, rejected verses of Quran speaking of Jesus(pbuh) and his family. He was no more than an opportunist and a fabricator.

May God forgive me for reproducing the profanities & indignities inflicted by Mirza Ghulam Ahmed & contained in publications outlined within parentheses above.

Mannerism of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani!
(In light of his own Writings)

Mirza Ghulam Qadiani did not have any scruples at using profanities to try to ridicule, intimidate, or threaten people who did not accept his false claim to prophethood.

Here are a few examples of his writings:

"My enemies are dirty swine and their women are more wretched than bitches."(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 14, P. 53; Najmul Huda, P. 10, 53)

"All Muslims regard my books with reverence and care and benefit from their sublime thoughts except those who are the offspring of prostitutes (bastards); God has put a seal upon their hearts and they do not accept me."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 5, Page 547-548; Mirat-o-Kamalat-i-Islam, P. 547; Aeena-e-Kamalat Islam, P.547-548)

[Mirza Ghulam translated this Arabic word as "Bastard" in
(Roohany Khazaen Vol. 11, P. 282)

"The one who has no belief in our ultimate victory is fond of becoming bastard and he is bound to be product of fornication." (Roohany Kazaen, Vol. 9, P. 31; Anwar ul Islam, P. 30)

"Are they prepared to swear? No, they'll never do so because they are liars and are derooting the corpse of falsehood like dogs."(Supplement to Anjam-e-Atham, P. 25; Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 11, P. 309)

His eulogy about Maulvi Saadullah Ludhianwi was:
"I look a sinful man among debauched who is more scoundrel and an execrated being like Satan... He who is called Saadullah by the ignorant is slanderer, wicked and a falsifier... You injured me, bastard. I won't be truthful if you won't have a disgraceful death."(Haqiqat-ul Wahi, P. 14-15; Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 22, P. 734-735)

"If Abdullah Athum is saved from death (as per Mirza's prophecy) and if all the world say the Christian was correct, then the bastard will not follow the right path."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 9, P. 32)

"Abdul Haq is not content with our victories. He is itching to become a bastard."(Anwar-ul-Islam, P. 30)

"There is nothing more foul than a pig in the world. But the ulema who oppose me are more foul than pigs. "(Anjam-i-Atham, P. 21)

"You have inflicted pain on me with your foulness. You are not truthful. I pray that you die in shame, you son of a harlot."(Anjam-i-Atham, P. 288)

"This bastard of a doctor does not thread the straight path."(Anwar-ul-Islam, P. 30)

He called Shaikhul Islam Saanaullah of Amristar:"O, the son of wind, o traitor..." (Ijaz-i-Ahmadi, P. 43/77)

The puzzling thing is that he himself wrote:
"I have never abused anyone."(Moahiburahman, P. 18)

"He is worst who is abusive, his heart is as filthy as Latrine."(Sar-e-Sumain, P. 74)

"Abuses and rebukes are not the acts of a believer and a believer can not be a curser."(Azalat-ul-Auham, P. 66)

Is this how a Prophet or even a rightly guided individual would speak?
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#532 Posted by guru on June 12, 2008 8:57:45 pm
Re: # 529: Organized relegion is terrorism. In case of Islam it wants to terrorize using most powerful organization in a geography, ie, the state. That is why it wants to own the state. When it does not own a state it just vanishes.

Islam is also imperialism of Arabs. Islam is in Sindh for 1K years, but Sindhi kids do not study Islamic scriptures in Sindhi even today. When Islam is localized, the Arabic Islam fights with it. Shia is persianized Islam. In the last 50 years close ot 2M Shia perished because of this.

Is Ahmedi localized Islam in place (India) and time (19th & 20th century)? Is it like Bahai? Bahai borrowed ideas from Zarotrasthian, Hindu, Buddhist & Jain Dharmas. Is Ahmedi similar? Did it add few more chapters to Koran?

Aitzaz’s Monumental Blunder Re: # 273
How true JAYP
A resemblance of the dance of democracy in Pakistan & the whole works although no one can copy it in it's entireity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXkQSiJG7fk

Healthcare in Pakistan, Lessons from Cuba Re: # 17
Director (Monitoring) Dr Shagufta Shahjahan said the department carried out tests of drinking water samples collected from different parts of the province off and on. In Lahore, she said, 25 per cent water samples were found 'unfit' for drinking in the last survey. She said the department had written to the city district government and Water and Sanitation Agency (Wasa) to chlorinate and clean the water supply lines.
This is such a serious issue that the officials should leave their desks and chairs and hand deliver such letters insisting that immediate action be taken by authorities.
It awful that people have to compromise their health due to negligence of authorities responsible for providing basic necessities.
Even the thought of this scenario is hair raising.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Re: # 203
NikkamayJee
you don't deserve to be dignified with a response.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Re: # 194

#195 Posted by Maharana on June 19, 2008 2:37:03 pm

Well thats a classic problem. I don't think we can have a word for that. And any attempts to do so may prove counter productive. If you recall, the europeans falsely coined the word "Gods" to translate "Devatas" from sanskrit. Eventually it gave these people the impression that we're all believers in many "Gods" and hence the polytheism label stuck with us.
What is more surprising is that we indians use the word Gods for Puja or archana etc. I think that indicates clearly that we don't understand our own culture accurately enough and rely on outsiders opinions to shape ours. The sloka 'ekam sat....vadanti" has captured it well and lets leave the art of labeling to the others. Just as they coined the word Hindu for us let them spend time coining another word, while we actually live with that philosophy.
Adios

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation If a man+woman could have created another being, why would so many people aspiring to parent a child remain without one?
It's worth a thorough research perhaps the results may result in millions or billions worth of riches for those who can supersede the test-tube fertilization that still requires a donor blessed with a fertile clot.
96:2Khalaqa alinsana min AAalaq
96:2 created man out of a clot

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Chamars will only act like chamars, having a keyboard & a connection does not offer an improvement, nothing else but a genetic disease.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Re: # 680
As a matter of fact I know a whole lot more but its useless to dump it over your head because you are determined to deny the facts even though you confirm what I have mentioned so far.
Its of no use throwing stones in filth as it would make me dirty.
Open your eyes and your mind as only those who seek the truth are able to acquire.
As far as the train incident is concerned that terrorism took place before your addition to the cult.

Aitzaz’s Monumental Blunder Their accusation of Aitzaz for an underhand deal with the authorities carried weight."

How long can Aitzaz live contesting cases pro-bono? A lawyer works for fees and pleads the case of the party that engages and pays him/her, so did Aitzaz, what is so unethical for him to pursue the matter of the party he represents?

The Bhopal Tragedy Continues Dow corning even got by with their contamination of many water bodies and cities in the USA. While they were also responsible for silicone and other materials they used in manufacturing breast implants which resulted adversely in numerous recipients of such flawed implants, however nothing happened to the manufacturer.

Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis Revision to the Author's introduction
(The writer is a lawyer and a participant in the lawyer's movement. He has asked to keep his identity secret for the fear of persecution.)

Correction:(The writer is a liar and a participant in the lawyer's movement. He has asked to keep his identity secret because he/she lacks the spine.)

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Re: # 674
No it was actually yours who stated that she just finished cleaning up Mirza Ghulam Qadiani's remains after he was lying dead soiled in feces this was her excuse for being late to report to clean my toilet.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Re: # 675
Adopt a dont ask dont tell policy, no one asks you if you are a Qadiani or not until YOU provoke.
Qadianis brought this upon themselves when they stopped the train filled with students and demonstrated their terrorist acts at a time when Pakistan was much more safer and better.
You Qadianis brought upon yourself.
If you live like people then you would be treated like people but once you began to demonstrate your Qadianiat on the streets and in public you will be curbed.
Take it or leave it but this is what Qadianis have qualified themselves for since the attack on students traveling by train and passing through Rabwa.
As long as you are able to maintain yourselves within prescribed limits you have no problems so mind yourself instead of blaming others for the problems you created yourself. If you were to live in Vatican and started a new congregation of Catholic Christians you will face the same.
Continue crying bloody murder and keep seeking asylum to UK, USA & Canada.

Aitzaz’s Monumental Blunder Re: # 6
Imran is the character which is appropriately known as "Thali ka baingan" great sum up by NangaPir.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Persecution Persecution Persecution
Bloody murder, these Qadianies have all the rights in Pakistan except to identify themselves as a Muslim.
They live in the neighborhoods they wish to, they have rights to own property, make a choice of career (without meddling with the defence of Pakistan just like in India with people of certain faith)they can have their places of worship as long as they do not abuse this choice by replicating Muslims.
23 of them did not end up in a medical school without having any rights or they would not have even qualified in earlier stages.
However they must keep beating the drums about persecution so that they can receive their education and gather whatever wealth they can in a poverty stricken nation and claim asylum opportunities in other places since asylum comes only to those who fake persecution.