A Great Day, A New Hope for Pakistan # 5 Posted by meenug
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With reference to your quote regarding a hadith from Sahih Bukhari, I fully regard ahadith contained in Sahih Bukhari, can you kindly quote the reference number(s) for this hadith and who is the narrator?
With my little humble knowledge as I understand the first person to whom our beloved Prophet PBUH submitted to in employment happened to be a lady, i.e. BiBi Khadijah for whom he conducted her trade.
Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding.
Jazallah khair.

A Great Day, A New Hope for Pakistan Regardless of my personal political opinion, most certainly it is a great day in the history of Pakistan to see a democratic process in progress.
It's high time that all of us (Pakistanis) feel sincerely about our nation, our homeland and it's citizens, and once again sacrifice our personal ego in favor of a flourishing homeland, where we can erase our differences and come together to seek peace, harmony and happiness for each other.
We should thank Allah SWT for what HE has blessed us with and stop seeking from creatures of equal status, and, bow to Allah SWT to seek from HIM as there is no limit to when HE blesses us, it is all possible only if we are sincere in our sought.
Let us respect and regard each other and forget our differences, let us coexist with tolerance instead of driving wedges amongst ourselves, and, remember "united we stand, divided we fall".

Zardari Rev 2 It all goes well beyond 1946. Nawab Mushtaq Husain Viqar al-Mulk (March 24, 1841-January 27, 1917), also known as Mushtaq Hussain, was a Muslim politician and one of the founders of All India Muslim League. He is also known for his involvement in the Aligarh Movement. It was Nawab Viqar-al-Mulk who literally drafted Jinnah into All India Muslim League.
The founding meeting of the League was held on 30 December 1906 at the occasion of the annual All India Muhammadan Educational Conference in Shahbagh, Dhaka that was hosted by Nawab Salimullah Khan. The meeting was attended by three thousand delegates and presided over by Nawab Viqar-ul-Mulk. The resolution was moved by Nawab Salimullah which was seconded by Hakim Ajmal Khan. Nawab Viqar-ul-Milk declared:

“The Musalmans (Muslims) are only a fifth in number as compared with the total population of the country, and it is manifest that if at any remote period the British government ceases to exist in India, then the rule of India would pass into the hands of that community which is nearly four times as large as ourselves... our life, our property, our honour, and our faith will all be in great danger, when even now that a powerful British administration is protecting its subjects, we the Musalmans have to face most serious difficulties in safe-guarding our interests from the grasping hands of our neighbors.”

Jinnah rose to prominence in the Indian National Congress expounding ideas of Hindu-Muslim unity and helping shape the 1916 Lucknow Pact with the Muslim League; he also became a key leader in the All India Home Rule League. Later Jinnah quit the Congress and took charge of the Muslim League. He proposed a fourteen-point constitutional reform plan to safeguard the political rights of Muslims in a self-governing India. His proposals failed amid the League's disunity, driving a disillusioned Jinnah to live in London for many years.
Prominent Muslim leaders made efforts to convince Jinnah to return to India and take charge of a now-reunited Muslim League. In 1934 Jinnah returned and began to re-organize the party.
(Acknowledgements: Wikipedia.org)

An Unnecessary Interview with History @#20 Posted by econfused
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It is worth pondering as to why these career politicians place or accept themselves under the umbrellas of such corrupt leadership of Nawaz Not-So-Sharief, Asif Zardari & entourage and multiple others who have robbed the nation more than once.
Does this reflect a lack of leadership on part of these brilliants worthy of your praise?

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In order to establish their brilliance they must acquire the aid of these hoodlums that are the robbers of Pakistan?
Why is it that such brilliants do not get out from underneath these fake umbrellas and benefit the country & it's people, since they are so loyal and sincere to Pakistan they should face much difficulty in establishing pure democracy.

If they don't send these so-called self imposed robbers back to their palaces in England, KSA & Dubai I am afraid we don't have much time on our hands to establish the mission of founding Pakistan while these robbers have now formed a consortium to go looting again.

Regards.

Starting from the End Re: # 10 Posted by teshah
Apology well taken & accepted.
I was born & raised in Karachi everything about Karachi concerns me, it is a naturally embedded feeling and I am sure that everyone carries such a passion for their neighborhood, village, city and on an overall basis for the homeland.
I am sure you must hold a level of passion for the place where you were born & raised.
Fortunately or unfortunately I happened to quit my lovely homeland some 4 decades earlier, but I cannot get over the passion for it and as dearly I feel for all the people & places I knew in Pakistan.
My children stare at me when I am watching television broadcasts from Pakistan and certain scenes bring tears to my eyes without control.
It makes me so sad that we who believe in the one & only Allah SWT & his messenger Mohammad SAW/PBUH, we pray towards the same Kabah, we have the same revelation the Quran-e-Kareem and yet we look at each other differently with a discriminating attitude.
It makes my heart cry when I see the turmoil in our homeland, when I notice that we the muslims have placed wedges amongst ourselves with each other magnifying our little differences as if such negativism bears more importance than the call of our Prophet SAW/PBUH for each of us to feel the pain of other even if a brother has a thorn stuck in his foot in China we as Muslims are supposed to feel yet we don't feel the pain of the one sitting next or living next to us.
Where is this state of our ignorance leading us? isn't this a sign of self destruction? and it hurts to see that we are our biggest enemy. Can we even imagine as to what we are approaching towards?
Its high time that we the Pakistanis put our differences away and seek forgiveness from Allah SWT and ask HIM to bless us with solidarity, peace and prosperity before it is too late to turn the clock backwards.
May our coming generation flourish together like flowers of varioius colors and aroma in a garden, ameen.

Mass Difference: The Bhuttos and Civil Society Multiple personality syndrome is what great number of Pakistanis suffer from, one personality for the public and another for personal consumption.
The primary criteria for creating Pakistan was based upon acquiring a homeland for "Muslims", those who vowed to found Pakistan always identified it to be a homeland for Muslims. Now that we have it Muslims are still here but Islam is discarded, Islam is not only about praying towards Kabatullah five times a day but it goes farther and offers a complete code of life for those who consider to be faithful to Islam.
Violation of Islamic codes be it by the ruler or ruled ones be it in private or public, it is a public matter, when one choses an individual to lead prayers the criteria is to assure that the leader is of appropriate character.
Up until 70's if one applied for a civil service career his/her background was investigated by the concerning authorities the references provided in the applications were checked and interviewed before offering the position. Similarly in that era when one applied for passport an investigative officer used to visit and interview the neighbors and acquaintances.
With regards to jobs this is practice is in convention in the USA even today.
If the nation of "infidels" (as labeled by most Muslims) if this can be practiced in USA what is the big deal if the character of a politician wishing to lead the nation of Muslims is scrutinized?
If we being a nation of Muslims claiming to be Islamic Republic are looking to find ways to separate our personalities at work and afterwards then what we are exercising is known as hypocrisy by the standards of our very own faith.
Hello! where are you?
One cannot ride two horses at the same time.
Similarly we canot maintain dual or multiple personalities leading a public and private life differently and unless we give up this fantasy we will never be successful in our lives.
Walah Alam bil thawab

Say Something Let’s Talk Oh wow! so much talk about so many things in such little space, you must be a magician. Further to the encapsulated article about so many topics the comments add an even more spicy tone to the forum, even if I wanted to I cant stop laughing out loud when I read:
"#63 Posted by shahmurad by the way what is your email and telephone no?.....mine is 0333-2119602 and i m DR.SHAH MURAD from gulshan iqbal karachi."
Without exaggeration it sounds exactly like standing by the chowk(without the chowkidar of course).
It is certainly an article that pulls a reader back to it more than once just to be sure what I think I read is really mentioned or am I hallucinating.
Best wishes

Starting from the End #8 Posted by teshah
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You are what you speak, I have nothing to do with MQM but based on the poison you spew I think I should consider looking into MQM.
In as much as Punjabies are concerned you really don't represent the majority of them that is unlike you polite & cordial, while you definitely smell like the hoodlum class which believes that might is right thus you should remember that "every dog has his day" and so you & people of your hoodlum class will too.
It wont be out of place to say that people of your level of speech should be considered for a permanent ban from all forums, the given discussion/thread is about the lack of power supply for Karachi while the entire country is not being discussed shortage v/s total failure are two different things, but, what a person of your caliber knows other than inflicting obscenities, too bad I can't bring myself to a level as low as yours, however there are more than your type of people who know how to carry on a conversation with civility.
It is the non-existence of civility that has encouraged corrupt governments to rule over Pakistan and to rip off nation's resources and wealth, and it is the same lack of civility that disqualifies prevalence of democracy in Pakistan.
I am all the least concerned about Kala Bagh Dam since I have no serious knowledge of the proposed project neither am I looking for long-term plans in future to solve shortage of electricity since the need is now & here.

An Unnecessary Interview with History Oh well I hear you as to what you describe which is rather tormenting, however me being the grandson of the person who drafted Qaid e Azam into Muslim League.
I have had more than fair share of my ordeals in Pakistan as well but not at the hand of an Army it was under the rulership of the so-called "most popular leader & politician of Pakistan ZAB" without going into details I suffered at the hands of the Pakistani orientation of democracy and found my way to the west and have been dwelling here for the fourth decade.
I am not at all an intellectual of your level but I feel sure that those democratic rulers & their not so democratic cronies were concerned of what I knew as an eyewitness of various events that took place under those rulers in the 70's, further to which I stopped their rings (when & where I could by blocking such opportunities) that were flourishing on bribery in those days.
It doesn't end there when my children and wife visited Pakistan they were tormented by the immigration & customs officials the hand carry luggage of the children was stolen by the workers at the airport at the gateway of a "muslim" state while they were detained for hours at the airport without any valid reason and this took place during the rule of (Late) Gen. Zia Ul Haq, I wrote to him asking is this how we welcome our guests at the gateways of Pakistan and immediately received a response inquiring as to if we know who were the officials and what were their names.
During the same period as I completed an assignment in Saudi Arabia I also intended to taste the waters of Pakistan after a long time, however when I went to the Pakistani embassy in Riyadh, I was refused the visa to enter Pakistan, I inquired of the consular as to whom he reports to, so I can see the higher official and was told it is the ambassador, I walked in the then ambassador's office and saw Retd. Gen Amir Gulistan Janjua in a parrot color kurta shalwar and the colonial scarf, he inquired the purpose of my visit to him and after hearing me he stated "apka to koi taalaq nahin Pakistan say" and refused to grant the visa. I flew the next evening without a visa guaranteeing the carrier that I will bear return expenses if one is not granted at the airport and fortunately they agreed to carry me.
In one way or another the people who claim to own Pakistan continue to unfailingly torment Pakistanis not to mention they now consider Urdu speaking people not to be citizens of Pakistan.
But no matter what, the love for our homeland that lives deep down in our hearts and flows in our blood cannot be removed or decreased by these less than decent acts of some, and I am hopeful that inshaAllah the day will come when we will get rid of each and every politician existing at this time in Pakistan and start from a clean slate.

An Unnecessary Interview with History An American president, John F Kennedy said at his inaugural speech: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask, what you can do for your country.
Ones actions/deeds are the reflections of their intentions(Hadith)
Look under your arms before peeping at other's.
You are no American Mr. Amer, yet you are enemy #1 of Pakistan and it's people yourself & all those alike. People like you abide by the pettiest laws when abroad yet they ignore or overcome by paying bribes or on the basis of who they know i.e. connections.
Twice Nawaz not-so-Sharief ruled over Pakistan and did not accomplish anything for common people except for himself and his cronies. Twice BB ruled over Pakistan and ----ditto----.
President Gen. Musharaf did not rob a single penny of Pakistan's treasury as compared to these two and several others earlier in the history. Based on your description filled with attempts to humiliate a sitting head of the state you are no lesser than his character as described by you.
"Mr Amer i feel no difference between you and mr musharaf regarding personal offences. I am not trumpeting the drums of musharaf's policies but at least you have some respect for your president.
What have you given to your country?????
People like you are victim of inferiority complex.
JAISI ROOH WAISAY FRISHTAY
Has musharaf asked us to show no respect for human lives whom we are blowing with the spate of bombs??
Has musharaf persuaded us to rape the innocents , plunder the national asset , violate every law the federation has made and make grafting and corruption our popular tenets.
What are you talking about human rights. Did you ever fulfilled your obligations which state demands from you.
Tell me onething, Pakistan in its history has seen dozen of rulers, why the condition of country is not changed? because we people have put all our eggs in pliticians' basket. We have never tried to do something for the betterment of our fellow except leg pulling.
I hope it will be in your consideration:
"WASHINGTON, March 7: A key foreign policy adviser to Barack Obama resigned on Friday, after calling his White House foe Hillary Clinton a “monster” " (Dawn 08 march)
A person has resigned as she made some aggressive remarks. Such a spirit leads the nation to prosperity. If you cant behave like american people then you have no right to clamour for american-styled democarcy in Pakistan. Musharaf rightly says (the only point with which i am agree) that we are different kind of nation so must be herded differently.
People like you have turned Pakistan's problem into quicksand by making the people dispair about the future. When there is complete loss of hope in society, it would not be able to build country on concrete basis.
I request "people like you", instead of criticizing and preaching the messages of hostility , take some bold initiatives to reform the era of progress."

The Nawaiwaqt Generation and the Power of No! An elaborate account of happenings around Pakistan & the Political Machinery and how it affects what has happened and may happen in Pakistan.
I admired your summation of this super long matter and would suggest not to give an ear to those who appear to be drawing you in to a debate out of context. I think you have done a wonderful job of assimilation of matters as they exist by using the layman's non-scholarly non-molvi scenario of how Iblees the Satan acted and whatever took place at the inception of world, those who understand the entire scenario and those who wish to understand will do it without any follow up on this subject as that sub-topic is being exploited by those "satans" who wish to divert the attention of readers from the basic concept of your analysis.
Once again thanks for sharing your thoughts, when it comes to agree, some will, some won't, so what?

Starting from the End Nothing can practically work in Pakistan, at least not as long as we have dung filled heads.
According to certain analysts WAPDA restricted KESC from producing/generating electricity and under some written mechanism imposed this condition. Evidently WAPDA wants to make money at the same time not a believer of free enterprise that is the superlative degree of being mean & selfish beyond being capitalistic.
As more comes to light it appears that WAPDA is one of those entities that wishes to see the city of Karachi dependent upon it's unreliable self.
It is time for KESC to break any such agreements and take it responsibility on it's own shoulders to generate abundant power for the people of the city it has taken responsibility to supply.
This failure to supply power is not only affecting residents of Karachi but it is also taking a toll on the businesses which points towards some other hidden agendas that may be simmering to bring Karachi to it's knees.
On the other hand since the unfortunate even of BB's assassination in Pindi there has been multiple fires in Karachi specifically many industrial installations in Karachi have turned into ashes.
Does this sabotaging quietly point towards the fact that certain entities cannot see the progress Karachi has made over the years, doesn't this say that there is a smell of witch's brewing?
Enough is enough, it's time for Pakistanis to act like Pakistanis and stop envying each other, its time to stop all these undermining activities against Karachi and it's resources and take pride in Pakistan as a whole.
The status that Karachi bears since inception of Pakistan cannot be removed by such terrorist like activities, Karachi is the backbone of Pakistan, it is the central nervous system which should not be subjected to such negative actions by few who wish to maintain control.
The agendas of a decade ago should not be renewed and implemented in attempts to handicap Karachi and by making the life of it's citizens more than miserable, the plans that were previously implemented to move the port of Karachi to Sargodha dry port was not practical before and it will not be practical now and if such policies are implemented in the long run it would not only hurt Karachi and it's citizens but will also adversely affect economy of entire country which will not benefit anyone and everyone will come out to be a loser till another Musharaf is born to take over the power and bring things under control.
It would be wise to discontinue all negative efforts and work together in a reconciliatory environment. It is a universal truth that when people join hands together they can achieve much more but to achieve the wedges from in between must be removed and those who are raising the slogan of reconciliation carry the burden to act in a manner that spells reconciliation. It is also a known fact that the nations that quarrel amongst themselves come out as the biggest losers on the face of earth.
It's high time that each of us examine ourselves and exercise mutual regard in co-existence, like flowers of various colors and scents co-exist in a garden otherwise our path is full of stones and thorns as it is.

When the Will of the People Poses an \'Inconvenient\' Truth Nawaz "not-so-Sharief" who was not even part of the election how can he be placed anywhere in the govt. to be as instrumental as it is being portrayed.
He was originally against holding the election with his off again on again campaign for the PML-N.
Similarly AZ who appears to be going back on his word when it comes to Ameen Faheem doesn't appear to be politicking as he stated to the people of Pakistan.
We are back to the "bandar-baant" distribution of power among monkeys of the past, may Allah protect our homeland and save our nation from the fitnah circus of these so called mean & selfish politicians, ameen.

Sex Education For the Next Generation What's in a saint? if speaking with Islam in mind there is no need for a mediator between Allah & (banda) the follower, if one has a need they need to make a sincere (dua)prayer to God to help him/her overcome the situation while by my own experience in any concern Allah SWT has always answered my pleas and requests favorably.
With due regards to believers of other faiths I am not sure what are the systems of submission to God and to pray for one's needs.
It is however widely accepted in the western arenas of medicine that those with faith have a proven record of faster and better recovery rates and I am sure similarly it also applies to this segment where some men or women are not fully fit to perform in matrimony.

Sex Education For the Next Generation "While I worked in the obstetric department in a Women’s Hospital in Peshawar Pakistan I was shocked to find out that many men and women had no understanding of human physiology and did not know that ovulation took place 14 days before menstruation and that the human sperm and ovum live for only 24—48 hours and if they did not make love during those 48--96 hours they would not get pregnant. I met many infertile women who went to holy shrines to pray for children rather than obtaining medical help for their problems."
You will be even more shocked to learn that such people exist in the west too, in USA & Europe, what is the big surprise?

Pervez Musharraf and India Pakistan Rapproachment I feel in total agreement with your thoughts about Musharaf & his efforts pertaining bilateral relations with India.
While he also accomplished on many other fronts nationally & internationally but he is not from the politicians breed and thus remains an unacceptable subject to their entity.
He is and will be remembered for his achievements for which only those who know co-existence and mutual regard will subscribe to.