The End Of An Affair
just read ur interacts with Taji .I found them very interesting. I don't know what ur views are on matrimony or so but abt this 'extra-marital' affairs and impressions that since marriage is boring one has to borrow romance from outside. Hmmmm I was kind of looking the other side of this love affair of the charaters,'they thought they clicked ,they were in love, both were happy' but what happened? their love melted soon. So there is no such thing as true love either! in marriage u atleast stuk with one person for sure!
:) but i guess at the end "experince' is the only way of knowing things for sure.
Posted by
Macbeth
Oct 16, 2009 11:26 pm
Re: # 4just read ur interacts with Taji .I found them very interesting. I don't know what ur views are on matrimony or so but abt this 'extra-marital' affairs and impressions that since marriage is boring one has to borrow romance from outside. Hmmmm I was kind of looking the other side of this love affair of the charaters,'they thought they clicked ,they were in love, both were happy' but what happened? their love melted soon. So there is no such thing as true love either! in marriage u atleast stuk with one person for sure!
:) but i guess at the end "experince' is the only way of knowing things for sure.
I Held My Daughter Tight in the Peshawar Carnage
i really can't do anything abt ur shortsightedness. I havn't jumped to any conclusions even 'the Attacker' is not pointed out as any one particular xyz. However Fanatics like u create ppl like lashkaray jahngwi How? Easy __u guys are just like the religious extremist ,bigots, with a difference , swinging to other extreme 'anti-moulwi views'. Ppl like you have unconciously made Religion a Moulwi’s property and then pathetically defined Moulwi as any one with a beard. You and all other ppl like you who live in symbols are especially perplexed in this new ironical situation where singers like Junaid Jamsheed one day appear on tv with bearded face and a guitar in hand, where in recent lahore attaks even a woman was found fighting... What’s going on! Any educated person if grows a beard is made to feel guilty abt it,“oye moiuwli ho gyaa hay’. We needed to create an environment where ppl could feel free to practice their beilieves, 'veil or no veil', should be their chocie; moulwi or no moulwi is a fanatical approach Similarly elements of intolerance and extremeism should be wiped off . But ppl llike you have braught pakistan to this state where things are seen as white n black & all is terribly divided by two extremes. Result is a lurking bloodshed and approaching civil war.
Posted by
Macbeth
Oct 16, 2009 11:13 pm
Re: # 22i really can't do anything abt ur shortsightedness. I havn't jumped to any conclusions even 'the Attacker' is not pointed out as any one particular xyz. However Fanatics like u create ppl like lashkaray jahngwi How? Easy __u guys are just like the religious extremist ,bigots, with a difference , swinging to other extreme 'anti-moulwi views'. Ppl like you have unconciously made Religion a Moulwi’s property and then pathetically defined Moulwi as any one with a beard. You and all other ppl like you who live in symbols are especially perplexed in this new ironical situation where singers like Junaid Jamsheed one day appear on tv with bearded face and a guitar in hand, where in recent lahore attaks even a woman was found fighting... What’s going on! Any educated person if grows a beard is made to feel guilty abt it,“oye moiuwli ho gyaa hay’. We needed to create an environment where ppl could feel free to practice their beilieves, 'veil or no veil', should be their chocie; moulwi or no moulwi is a fanatical approach Similarly elements of intolerance and extremeism should be wiped off . But ppl llike you have braught pakistan to this state where things are seen as white n black & all is terribly divided by two extremes. Result is a lurking bloodshed and approaching civil war.
I Held My Daughter Tight in the Peshawar Carnage
Well friend, actually u hvn't got the point i have tried to raise. Your frenzic reply therefore hammers on how islam is full of bigotism and arabs are ayash and backwards !Now abt what i have tried to say: Generally Pakistan has been incapable of taking decisions as a gracefull independent nation (which it surely is) and have been relying on Others. As far you rely on others to do ur chores u end up in disaster. Sure this is what Pakistan is in today. Secondly to unite and stand for one another or to atleast able to objection at somehing objectionable takes courage and character __lacking in Muslim world( it is obvious.) Israel gets all the support for its brutality__ world knows it. When it attacks other s or when it feels isolated and suppressed world sympathises. America did not need a natural calamity and disaster to unite against terrror attacks of 9/11. This spirit lacked in Arab countries when Iraq attacked on Kuwait. Arabs could have faught it themselves , only if they have stood united. But they relied on America and suffered the consequences. (Arab’s fault of-course) Thing is that muslims should stand for humanity and erase injustice or terrorism. Islam is abt tolerance, forgiveness and peace instead of revange murder and terror. But unfortunately this is not happening and this is why common man who knows at heart ‘something should be done abt it’ is miserable and upset like the flock of hen i quoted in previous interact.
All i want is that ppl should come up with some strategic ways to deal with the problem Like revoultionalising the madrasa system and keep checks for on the ‘chanda’ gathered by religious ppl to make sure they dont end up in hands of extremist and misused etc etc. But they can’t even elect a gov. Of their own choice as the writer of the related article has said. America can only help by providing lethal weapons to use againt taliban in pakistan; and then soon on us .... Everthing will be swept away in this wave of anarchy if we do not stand and take sane actions.{ as you can see first Afhghanistan then Peshawar and now Punjab...and some duffers amid all this will be left looking for bearded men to crush them...for God sake widen your visions.}
Just for ur info my nick is suggestive of tragic
Posted by
Macbeth
Oct 16, 2009 10:58 pm
Re: # 20Well friend, actually u hvn't got the point i have tried to raise. Your frenzic reply therefore hammers on how islam is full of bigotism and arabs are ayash and backwards !Now abt what i have tried to say: Generally Pakistan has been incapable of taking decisions as a gracefull independent nation (which it surely is) and have been relying on Others. As far you rely on others to do ur chores u end up in disaster. Sure this is what Pakistan is in today. Secondly to unite and stand for one another or to atleast able to objection at somehing objectionable takes courage and character __lacking in Muslim world( it is obvious.) Israel gets all the support for its brutality__ world knows it. When it attacks other s or when it feels isolated and suppressed world sympathises. America did not need a natural calamity and disaster to unite against terrror attacks of 9/11. This spirit lacked in Arab countries when Iraq attacked on Kuwait. Arabs could have faught it themselves , only if they have stood united. But they relied on America and suffered the consequences. (Arab’s fault of-course) Thing is that muslims should stand for humanity and erase injustice or terrorism. Islam is abt tolerance, forgiveness and peace instead of revange murder and terror. But unfortunately this is not happening and this is why common man who knows at heart ‘something should be done abt it’ is miserable and upset like the flock of hen i quoted in previous interact.
All i want is that ppl should come up with some strategic ways to deal with the problem Like revoultionalising the madrasa system and keep checks for on the ‘chanda’ gathered by religious ppl to make sure they dont end up in hands of extremist and misused etc etc. But they can’t even elect a gov. Of their own choice as the writer of the related article has said. America can only help by providing lethal weapons to use againt taliban in pakistan; and then soon on us .... Everthing will be swept away in this wave of anarchy if we do not stand and take sane actions.{ as you can see first Afhghanistan then Peshawar and now Punjab...and some duffers amid all this will be left looking for bearded men to crush them...for God sake widen your visions.}
Just for ur info my nick is suggestive of tragic
I Held My Daughter Tight in the Peshawar Carnage
Re: # 21
your reply is as ridiculous as ur speech and baseless__ i must say.Insteand of shooting nonsense in vain come up with solid examples which i am sure u r incapable of. You are incapable of differentiating between muslims and terrorists. Terrorism is an activity and anyone can engage in it___ Israel's State terrorism ; Britian's imperrialsim was a sublime form of atoricites of its sort and Yes Taliban's terrorist activieties. What is wrong is wrong no matter who does it But u r such a bigot hounding after muslims only!
Posted by
Macbeth
Oct 16, 2009 10:47 pm
Re: # 21Re: # 21
your reply is as ridiculous as ur speech and baseless__ i must say.Insteand of shooting nonsense in vain come up with solid examples which i am sure u r incapable of. You are incapable of differentiating between muslims and terrorists. Terrorism is an activity and anyone can engage in it___ Israel's State terrorism ; Britian's imperrialsim was a sublime form of atoricites of its sort and Yes Taliban's terrorist activieties. What is wrong is wrong no matter who does it But u r such a bigot hounding after muslims only!
I Held My Daughter Tight in the Peshawar Carnage
Posted by
Macbeth
Oct 12, 2009 10:46 pm
i am going to quote an example i once heard to depict the psyche and situation of our ppl. Our nation is acting like a flock of hens that is caged and feeling terribly suffocated.The butcher puts his hand in the cage almost after every half an hour and drags a hen out.He slaughters it immediately. All other hen can see it and make noises in desparation and yet do nothing but await their brutal fate. Not just pakistani as a natioon but muslims in particular all over the world have been acting thus. The calamity that has fallen on us today is a result of this submissive and coward attitude that we have adopted. Even today many would think that its peshawar and they are safe coz they do not live there.Just like we all thought when America bombard Iraq and Afghanistan killinf several innocent civilians we thoght yeah its bad but we live in Pakistan. Dear fellows i guess its time we see a crisis of one muslim as all muslim's , a pain of our fellows as ours and do something abt it otherwise we will soon be swallowd by such lethal attacks never minding who the attacker is!
Cheap is Cool
Posted by
Macbeth
Oct 2, 2009 04:48 am
love the article and appreciate your sense of humour that has spooned out the 'cool cheapness'. But i must add we Asians are brilliant enough to champion this cool attitude__it is an art that is hard to master by any other xyz!
Dr Afia Siddiqui\'s Case
hope everyone can recognise the grim situation and___'Do' something abt it as well!
Posted by
Macbeth
Sep 14, 2008 12:43 am
The article is so true and i praise the genius ans sensitivity of the writer Yes we can not brush aside all the atrocities!hope everyone can recognise the grim situation and___'Do' something abt it as well!
The Prejudices Pakistan’s New President Faces
Posted by
Macbeth
Sep 14, 2008 12:30 am
Well miss, actually you wouldn't have to do all this hard work, {'I was trying to unpack the reasons why he is so widely reviled',}if only you have remebered that he is a man who cant even keep his own word or promises! Never mind the so called political conspiracies that accuse him of murder and corruption___the fact is: a man who is not true to his words can not and should not be trusted as a President.
Sounds from Within
Posted by
Macbeth
May 11, 2008 06:10 pm
Nice poem.It reminded me of another remarkable poem 'Stopping by the woods in a snowy evening', by Robert Frost.Have u read it?
The Quest
Posted by
Macbeth
Apr 29, 2008 05:25 am
To confront someone who has poisioned ur life, especially if it is someone with whom you have a blood relation, is an extremely painful situation. i beieve_Its a moment of battle between mind and memory__where memory of old tortures act like a sharp dagger inserting & injuring present consciousness of the sufferer.If someone gets this chance of confrontation and of catharsis its a great oportunity.Not everyone gets it __not everyone can get over it and start feeling light. However i am really looking for tips to cut down such poison trees, residingin our mind, which although were seeded by bad attitudes of our loved ones but are ofcourse nourished by our on hatred.
Reinterpretation of Islam in Turkey
No offense, but in this article of yours is a superb example of poor argumentation. Since you have built your points on absurd interpretations of Hadith it has become real hard for you to 'draw a line'.As far you or I will try to draw lines we will only end up with a greater mess. Islam is not about drawing lines but multiplying knowledge and to maintain a balance in Life. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) made it clear that only he who is pious is nearer to Allah and 'Who is Pious?' we do not know as Allah knows only the real intention of our hearts; and Religion primarily is an affair between God and Man. Therefore whenever people try to draw lines they mess all somewhat similar to the one you have made as you have ventured to draw a line between 'relevant' and 'irrelevant' things in Islam. I hope you can see how naive your comments sound:
“The Muslim world seems to be intellectually frozen in the seventh century A.D. while rest of the world has completely changed in every respect. Our means of transportation, for example, are now mechanical in contrast to those of the early Islam (animal transportation).�
“No body could ever think of a digital computer in the seventh century. It is an essential part of human life now.�
How ridiculous!!!! Where in world Muslims are still riding camels just because in early days Arabs used to do so? Or Hello!!! there are a hell lots of things people never thought of then and yes still many things to come that even you might not have thought about or imagined about! But Where does it proves that Muslim world is frozen in 7th century?just look around you and count how many Muslims are still living is a style of 7 century? I can't believe you can write such a poor piece when you have wrote some other remarkable articles...but this is simply pathetic.
Now let me help you see that Irrelevant is not the Hadith you have quoted in a so-called brilliant manner but instead its your 'perspective' which is irrelevant. For instance Hadith you have quoted (604, (Medicine) Sahih Bukhari , regarding lice and its treatment ,no where suggests that no other solution should ever be accepted or tried to get rid of lice. Moreover head shave ,an effective way as it is, was suggested in first place. Yes , we might think what relevance does the other part of the suggestion had? Well we never know and surely we can not compete with the prudence and knowledge Allah Almighty had bestowed our Prophet (PBUH) with. For instance It is said that Aqeeqa , slaughtering of animal, actually prevents the newborn from many troubles. We sure live in a world where metaphysical elements prevail and for which we have many reference in Quran too. However, my point is that who knows what impact the other part of the suggestion might as well have but thing is Islam is a religion of common- sense and one that frees people to seek knowledge and learn better ways to adopt wisdom where ever one founds. Let me just quote a well known saying as a reminder “Wisdom is lost property of Momin, one should own it where ever one founds it'.Unfortunately you have not come across any of such quotes in Hadith and Islam and I must say your obsession that Islam is rooted in past and the idea that 'we can not go in past'(very true though) has blinded you to the reality of not only Islam but of the obvious too.
Similarly the second Hadith quoted by you merely highlights the importance of honey which was one way of cure (Shifa) in days when no painkillers were available. The statement that his stomach lies can also refer to a psychological fact where at times anxiety causes butterflies in ones' stomach .Ever seen children complaining stomach ache when going to school? If so then you might understand what I am saying.
Once again about the third hadith you have quoted regarding fever tells about curing fever by water and this is also an effective way of relieving up to this day. Islam is a religion that encompasses all aspects physical and spiritual and many Muslims also know the effectiveness of 'Sorhe Fatiha' in this regard. However, all Muslims are well aware of the fact when they have to do and use medicines ,see doctors and try what suits them best because Islam asks its believers to think and act accordingly..
You are very right that, “the task of reinterpreting and modernizing Islam is quite difficult� but you are not all right when you complete the sentence with,“because it is deeply rooted in the past.� Islam itself doesn't confine men to a frozen period of time. Its a religion that began with the word 'Iqra' and goes beyond the material reality to provide wisdom and knowledge for all walks of life. However, there are certain rigid Islamists /Mullahs who do not welcome change: No TV, No Music, No women driving cars, No ...no...no...� Ironically you might see they do not practice what they preach for example they might appear on TV to say 'no TV', and might not even bother about the movie cameras as long its picturing them, and might object at girls studying in Medical colleges with boys but want a lady doctor to show their ladies to, so on and so forth. Simple common sense tells us that they are not be followed and that this is not Islam! In Islam there is a concept of 'Ijtihad' according to which people are required to adopt ways with the changing times as long they don't fall in the category of 'Shirk'. Muslims in early days who stuck to the healthy pragmatic teachings of Islam made great contributions in field of education,medical,architecture and other branches. They led the world! I think what we actually need to get rid of, in order to create a congenial society, are two extremists: 'rigid-mullahs' and 'ridiculous-interpretors' , whose common -sense has frozen somewhere in times of 7th century__ both types who believe they know the 'Real Islam' which for them is nothing more than a mosaic of 7th century. How Absurd!
Posted by
Macbeth
Mar 18, 2008 04:41 pm
I am simply amazed by your shortsightedness. I guess people like you, who have just read a few Hadith 'off and on', not only make a fool of themselves but also baffle many along with them. True that Islam provides guidance to humans beings but it came to free humans(especially Arabs) who were terribly entrapped by many irrelevant conventions and traditions. It is not rooted in old customs and traditions__ it free us from them (no dowry, no slavery, no burying alive of baby girls, no cruel tradition etc etc). If you have time then just read a bit of history before Islam and then a about how Islam enlightened them to better understanding of the world.No offense, but in this article of yours is a superb example of poor argumentation. Since you have built your points on absurd interpretations of Hadith it has become real hard for you to 'draw a line'.As far you or I will try to draw lines we will only end up with a greater mess. Islam is not about drawing lines but multiplying knowledge and to maintain a balance in Life. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) made it clear that only he who is pious is nearer to Allah and 'Who is Pious?' we do not know as Allah knows only the real intention of our hearts; and Religion primarily is an affair between God and Man. Therefore whenever people try to draw lines they mess all somewhat similar to the one you have made as you have ventured to draw a line between 'relevant' and 'irrelevant' things in Islam. I hope you can see how naive your comments sound:
“The Muslim world seems to be intellectually frozen in the seventh century A.D. while rest of the world has completely changed in every respect. Our means of transportation, for example, are now mechanical in contrast to those of the early Islam (animal transportation).�
“No body could ever think of a digital computer in the seventh century. It is an essential part of human life now.�
How ridiculous!!!! Where in world Muslims are still riding camels just because in early days Arabs used to do so? Or Hello!!! there are a hell lots of things people never thought of then and yes still many things to come that even you might not have thought about or imagined about! But Where does it proves that Muslim world is frozen in 7th century?just look around you and count how many Muslims are still living is a style of 7 century? I can't believe you can write such a poor piece when you have wrote some other remarkable articles...but this is simply pathetic.
Now let me help you see that Irrelevant is not the Hadith you have quoted in a so-called brilliant manner but instead its your 'perspective' which is irrelevant. For instance Hadith you have quoted (604, (Medicine) Sahih Bukhari , regarding lice and its treatment ,no where suggests that no other solution should ever be accepted or tried to get rid of lice. Moreover head shave ,an effective way as it is, was suggested in first place. Yes , we might think what relevance does the other part of the suggestion had? Well we never know and surely we can not compete with the prudence and knowledge Allah Almighty had bestowed our Prophet (PBUH) with. For instance It is said that Aqeeqa , slaughtering of animal, actually prevents the newborn from many troubles. We sure live in a world where metaphysical elements prevail and for which we have many reference in Quran too. However, my point is that who knows what impact the other part of the suggestion might as well have but thing is Islam is a religion of common- sense and one that frees people to seek knowledge and learn better ways to adopt wisdom where ever one founds. Let me just quote a well known saying as a reminder “Wisdom is lost property of Momin, one should own it where ever one founds it'.Unfortunately you have not come across any of such quotes in Hadith and Islam and I must say your obsession that Islam is rooted in past and the idea that 'we can not go in past'(very true though) has blinded you to the reality of not only Islam but of the obvious too.
Similarly the second Hadith quoted by you merely highlights the importance of honey which was one way of cure (Shifa) in days when no painkillers were available. The statement that his stomach lies can also refer to a psychological fact where at times anxiety causes butterflies in ones' stomach .Ever seen children complaining stomach ache when going to school? If so then you might understand what I am saying.
Once again about the third hadith you have quoted regarding fever tells about curing fever by water and this is also an effective way of relieving up to this day. Islam is a religion that encompasses all aspects physical and spiritual and many Muslims also know the effectiveness of 'Sorhe Fatiha' in this regard. However, all Muslims are well aware of the fact when they have to do and use medicines ,see doctors and try what suits them best because Islam asks its believers to think and act accordingly..
You are very right that, “the task of reinterpreting and modernizing Islam is quite difficult� but you are not all right when you complete the sentence with,“because it is deeply rooted in the past.� Islam itself doesn't confine men to a frozen period of time. Its a religion that began with the word 'Iqra' and goes beyond the material reality to provide wisdom and knowledge for all walks of life. However, there are certain rigid Islamists /Mullahs who do not welcome change: No TV, No Music, No women driving cars, No ...no...no...� Ironically you might see they do not practice what they preach for example they might appear on TV to say 'no TV', and might not even bother about the movie cameras as long its picturing them, and might object at girls studying in Medical colleges with boys but want a lady doctor to show their ladies to, so on and so forth. Simple common sense tells us that they are not be followed and that this is not Islam! In Islam there is a concept of 'Ijtihad' according to which people are required to adopt ways with the changing times as long they don't fall in the category of 'Shirk'. Muslims in early days who stuck to the healthy pragmatic teachings of Islam made great contributions in field of education,medical,architecture and other branches. They led the world! I think what we actually need to get rid of, in order to create a congenial society, are two extremists: 'rigid-mullahs' and 'ridiculous-interpretors' , whose common -sense has frozen somewhere in times of 7th century__ both types who believe they know the 'Real Islam' which for them is nothing more than a mosaic of 7th century. How Absurd!
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