The Strange Case of the Indian Channels That Did Not Air the 26/11 Documentary
Same here! If you come to India, even arjun would treat you extremely cordially.
We Indians hate the sin. Not the sinner.
Thats a good spirit nemesis3
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Nov 20, 2009 06:18 am
Re: # 83Same here! If you come to India, even arjun would treat you extremely cordially.
We Indians hate the sin. Not the sinner.
Thats a good spirit nemesis3
Syed Kamal (1937 to 2009): Aisa Bhi Hota Tha
Sad to learn of Kamal sahib's passing away, may his soul rest in peace, ameen.
Hardly went to movies yet Kamal was a familiar face, several schoolmates spoke of his movies all the time and this post brought back memories of the good old days.
I wonder if anyone knows of another name from Pakistan's screen "Asad Jafri" and if he is still around?
In the early days of PTV-Karachi, I believe he started a program "her taan haye deepak".
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Nov 10, 2009 07:06 am
Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Illahi Raji'oonSad to learn of Kamal sahib's passing away, may his soul rest in peace, ameen.
Hardly went to movies yet Kamal was a familiar face, several schoolmates spoke of his movies all the time and this post brought back memories of the good old days.
I wonder if anyone knows of another name from Pakistan's screen "Asad Jafri" and if he is still around?
In the early days of PTV-Karachi, I believe he started a program "her taan haye deepak".
The MF Husain Controversy: Identity, Intent and the Rise of Militant Fascism
Thats a suggestion as this forum does not appear to be able to resolve all the different views and perceptions about morality and freedom of expression and only end up in more of a bitter after-taste.
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Nov 4, 2009 10:13 pm
Re: # 113Thats a suggestion as this forum does not appear to be able to resolve all the different views and perceptions about morality and freedom of expression and only end up in more of a bitter after-taste.
The MF Husain Controversy: Identity, Intent and the Rise of Militant Fascism
"If" he is a practicing muslim to begin with he would not be drawing art containing human depiction, on top of that (if it is his agenda which I don't know much about) to depict something which would arouse communal feelings among people from two different faiths/factions and cause sensitivity.
I don't support such artwork that expresses nudity to begin with at the very foundation and then I would least support something that would cause abrasive feelings and disturb peace and whatever harmony there may be existing.
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Nov 4, 2009 02:21 pm
Re: # 86"If" he is a practicing muslim to begin with he would not be drawing art containing human depiction, on top of that (if it is his agenda which I don't know much about) to depict something which would arouse communal feelings among people from two different faiths/factions and cause sensitivity.
I don't support such artwork that expresses nudity to begin with at the very foundation and then I would least support something that would cause abrasive feelings and disturb peace and whatever harmony there may be existing.
The MF Husain Controversy: Identity, Intent and the Rise of Militant Fascism
What are the limits of such a freedom?
Isn't expression based on one's feelings?
If so why is it that nations and people curb the feeling of taking over another nation even if they have all that it may take?
I suggest that both, freedom of expression and morality have parameters when it comes to civil liberties, otherwise the first laws to go off the books will be that deal with "indecent exposure".
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Nov 4, 2009 02:17 pm
Re: # 89What are the limits of such a freedom?
Isn't expression based on one's feelings?
If so why is it that nations and people curb the feeling of taking over another nation even if they have all that it may take?
I suggest that both, freedom of expression and morality have parameters when it comes to civil liberties, otherwise the first laws to go off the books will be that deal with "indecent exposure".
The MF Husain Controversy: Identity, Intent and the Rise of Militant Fascism
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Nov 4, 2009 01:53 pm
The scientists are still attempting to justify various methods and procedures to be recognized as moral.
The MF Husain Controversy: Identity, Intent and the Rise of Militant Fascism
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Nov 4, 2009 01:52 pm
Art is not only limited to brush or charcoal srokes on paper or canvas, ability to carry on a conversation, authoring a book and many other items qualify for the application of moral standards which could be universal without ethnic and or faith based boundary lines.
The MF Husain Controversy: Identity, Intent and the Rise of Militant Fascism
If you are willing to let go of what is known as "Morality" then you can tell about your vulnerablitiy.
Should my feelings for freedom of expression dictate similarly and I began to use expletives in response, instantaneously the Moral Police of ChowkStaff will build a wall secluding me from you and all other's, who will then claim higher morality.
This is the best example I can provide for you at the moment when it comes to morality.
Simply speaking its only morality that seperates you and me from being known as "beasts" and it is only based on morality and your moral levels as to how you and me address each other.
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Nov 4, 2009 01:48 pm
malikRashidIf you are willing to let go of what is known as "Morality" then you can tell about your vulnerablitiy.
Should my feelings for freedom of expression dictate similarly and I began to use expletives in response, instantaneously the Moral Police of ChowkStaff will build a wall secluding me from you and all other's, who will then claim higher morality.
This is the best example I can provide for you at the moment when it comes to morality.
Simply speaking its only morality that seperates you and me from being known as "beasts" and it is only based on morality and your moral levels as to how you and me address each other.
The MF Husain Controversy: Identity, Intent and the Rise of Militant Fascism
His profession and art depends on depicting figures and drawing/painting those as an art work.
It appears that he has some serious level of expertise in what he likes to do and does.
The Hindu faith apparently does not impose any restrictions on depicting, sculptures and or painting as opposed to Islamic codes.
What MF Hussain drew or painted a piece of art depicting depiction of pre-existing sculpture or carving that exists either at a place of worship or some holy background in a Hindu Temple.
Why some of the believers of Hindu faith are stressing to scruitinize MF Hussain for an act that is not prohibited by their faith and insisting upon applying the Islamic regulations to try him?
As suggested by various interactors if the adversarial wishes of believers of Hindu faith as exemplified by their hate filled writing here, are implemented tha would encompass removal and
destruction of all similar works of art since majority of it depicts nudity and mature themes.
It is rather interesting to see some speak in direct conflict with their own faith while they applying Islamic standards to charge, prosecute and execute using non-applicable regulations.
In concluding so I do not mean to demean those who feel affected by the given action of artist however, each commission of such an act should be judged under the appropriately applicable guidelines.
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Nov 4, 2009 01:41 pm
MF Hussain who is described as a "poster painter" is an artist of some level.His profession and art depends on depicting figures and drawing/painting those as an art work.
It appears that he has some serious level of expertise in what he likes to do and does.
The Hindu faith apparently does not impose any restrictions on depicting, sculptures and or painting as opposed to Islamic codes.
What MF Hussain drew or painted a piece of art depicting depiction of pre-existing sculpture or carving that exists either at a place of worship or some holy background in a Hindu Temple.
Why some of the believers of Hindu faith are stressing to scruitinize MF Hussain for an act that is not prohibited by their faith and insisting upon applying the Islamic regulations to try him?
As suggested by various interactors if the adversarial wishes of believers of Hindu faith as exemplified by their hate filled writing here, are implemented tha would encompass removal and
destruction of all similar works of art since majority of it depicts nudity and mature themes.
It is rather interesting to see some speak in direct conflict with their own faith while they applying Islamic standards to charge, prosecute and execute using non-applicable regulations.
In concluding so I do not mean to demean those who feel affected by the given action of artist however, each commission of such an act should be judged under the appropriately applicable guidelines.
The MF Husain Controversy: Identity, Intent and the Rise of Militant Fascism
Anil sb
"My Hinduism is more tolerant. M. F. Hussain is guilty based on morality.
I wish there were more people who understood and applied the accurate perception to this dillema, this world would be a better place to live and thrive.
I agree with your conclusion.
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Nov 4, 2009 01:17 pm
Re: # 42Anil sb
"My Hinduism is more tolerant. M. F. Hussain is guilty based on morality.
I wish there were more people who understood and applied the accurate perception to this dillema, this world would be a better place to live and thrive.
I agree with your conclusion.
The MF Husain Controversy: Identity, Intent and the Rise of Militant Fascism
He said "he would not disgrace his family by disavowing what he was raised to believe and what they believe in."
Nothing needs to be supplemented to this statement, it speaks for itself.
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Nov 4, 2009 01:03 pm
Re: # 67He said "he would not disgrace his family by disavowing what he was raised to believe and what they believe in."
Nothing needs to be supplemented to this statement, it speaks for itself.
Zombie Nation - Random Thoughts!
Madani sb
All three should come together and become friends and embrace each other forgive and forget.
Had such spirits existed, or even take place now, then Pakistan will become a Muslim's nation for real.
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Oct 29, 2009 11:08 am
Re: # 1Madani sb
All three should come together and become friends and embrace each other forgive and forget.
Had such spirits existed, or even take place now, then Pakistan will become a Muslim's nation for real.
Zombie Nation - Random Thoughts!
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Oct 29, 2009 11:01 am
****--"The less said the better"--****
Islam and Modern Times: Is There a Case For Reinterpretation?
Even as an imagination it is a hair raising instance.
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Oct 19, 2009 09:24 pm
The stoning and burning of the Hafiz is no more than pure lack of literacy "jihalat", imagine the level of literacy of those so-called Muslims who took it upon themselves to prosecute and execute the Hafiz. This is the sort of things that are hurting the Muslims and Islamic faith worldwide.Even as an imagination it is a hair raising instance.
Islam and Modern Times: Is There a Case For Reinterpretation?
so you want to drive a stolen vehicle? and, that too without a driving license?
some crazy people think that the entire world should be designed in the manner they wish to see it, forgetting that there are boundaries to every parameter.
you walk into anyone's else's property and you are trespassing and violating and this applies in all faiths as well as with those without faith.
so, you better watch where you walk-in since you are liable to be tried for trespass, even by humans let alone God, while violating God's imposed parameters could incur severe punishment and you seem to be wise enough to know so.
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Oct 19, 2009 09:17 pm
Re: # 155so you want to drive a stolen vehicle? and, that too without a driving license?
some crazy people think that the entire world should be designed in the manner they wish to see it, forgetting that there are boundaries to every parameter.
you walk into anyone's else's property and you are trespassing and violating and this applies in all faiths as well as with those without faith.
so, you better watch where you walk-in since you are liable to be tried for trespass, even by humans let alone God, while violating God's imposed parameters could incur severe punishment and you seem to be wise enough to know so.
Islam and Modern Times: Is There a Case For Reinterpretation?
ditto on Zee's statement
Posted by
MatloobZaman
Oct 19, 2009 09:09 pm
Re: # 159ditto on Zee's statement
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