Mumbai Attacks: Shocking Re: # 163
Muslims, Christians and Achoot excluded from such amnesty!

Mumbai Attacks: Shocking Re: # 398
Israeli media calls India's reaction 'slow, confused'

New Delhi: As India turned down Israel's offer to send its crack commandos to Mumbai to rescue Israeli hostages held in a Jewish centre, an influential newspaper in Tel Aviv has criticised "slow, confused and inefficient" response of Indian authorities to the terror attacks in Mumbai.

"In the first several hours after the Mumbai incidents began, the response of the Indian authorities was slow, confused and inefficient," said an article in Haaretz, entitled "Is al Qaeda behind the Mumbai terror attacks?"

"The first forces sent to the scene were inexperienced local police officers, who suffered many casualties as a result," said the article published in Friday's edition of the daily.

"It took some time before military and security authorities realised the scope of the attack and deployed skilled security forced, including army and navy commando units," the article said.

The editorial pages of Haaretz, published in both Hebrew and English, are considered influential among government leaders, intellectuals, academics, and professionals.

The bodies of five Jews were found inside the Jewish centre - Nariman House - a home to Chabad Lubavich sect, in which an Israeli rabbi and his family were trapped.

"India said a polite no to an offer by Israel for dispatching counter terror forces," Haaretz pointed out.

"It appears the Indian government is not interested in high profile security assistance from Israel. Throughout the day, the Homefront Command prepared to send an aid delegation to India but efforts were halted when it became clear that Delhi was not enthusiastic about the prospect," the daily said.

Defence Minister Ehud Barak and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni Thursday offered Israel's assistance to India in dealing with terror attacks and its aftermath. Livni also called her Indian counterpart Pranab Mukherjee and underlined her country's solidarity in the fight against terrorism.

Tel Aviv is not happy with New Delhi's rejection of its offer to send its elite commando force to rescue hostages trapped in Mumbai's luxury hotels and in Nariman House, reliable sources said.

The Israeli defence minister also expressed concerns over the fate of Israelis caught up in the attacks. He also thanked the Indian government for its efforts to trace the missing Israeli nationals visiting Mumbai

Mumbai Attacks: Shocking Faridkot (Panjabi: ਫ਼ਰੀਦਕੋਟ, فریدکوٹ; Hindi: फ़रीदकोट) is a small city and a municipal council in Faridkot district in the state of Punjab, India.

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=30.66506, 74.755577&spn=0.064821,0.11055&z=13

This is the Faridkot which Google brings up when inquired for Faridkot, Pakistan

Mumbai Attacks: Shocking Nothing justifies attacking innocent civilians in such barbaric manner.
Nothing justifies condoning of acts that are condemnable, be it any nationality or religion.
Those who cheer & applaud such acts are no less than the barbaric terrorists committed such acts.
In short the present events are Terrorist acts of some screwed up people it doesn't matter what name they adopt or what group they may be, their acts place them under the title of terrorists, while they are neither Jihadi no Mujahid as they claim to be.
I send my condolences to all the affected citizens and the Govt. of India while, no one can make any sense out of this latest event.

Urdu News Columnists and Anchors -- should we always believe them? Re: # 34
Sure NKG, feel free to establish your opinion, we are two individuals who look at things differently.
BTW English newspapers are rated higher even with the recycler, so I am sure they must have a different level for screening and it is their choice just like the two of us have a different angle on this issue.
The right to opinion is yours and I certainly agree to disagree.

The Indian Obama! http://www.chowk.com/unplugged/t/60360

Urdu News Columnists and Anchors -- should we always believe them? The genes of journalists no matter what language or part of the world they may be from are about the same, they always want to be the first to report anything and a lot of times they hastily end up reporting incorrect reports. I have seen this in many parts of the world where journalist and media insists by stating, "remember we broke the news first".
They love to see news in the making and often pave the way for news that are made with the efforts and support of media, language is no barrier nor is region.

Urdu News Columnists and Anchors -- should we always believe them? Columnists be they conduct their professional tasks in Urdu or English, it makes no difference journalists speakers of other languages are just as bad or good.
The only place where I recall ever having noticed the difference is when the raddi paper walay bought old paper for recycling they paid a better rate for English papers & magazines as compared to Urdu. Not sure if the raddi paper business still prevails or not since "bhoosi tukray" may be a thing of past after the flour price fixing nuisance.

Urdu News Columnists and Anchors -- should we always believe them? Janab Aziz Akhmad sahib
and a little bit more of the same:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Ktjta-URY

I would not want to believe this either but if not imminent it's in the plans.
Not sure if you came across GB's praise of Musharraf when his administration on his clock conducted massive arrests in Pak and when the emergency was declared, and stated that he(GB) should take a lesson from this how to control masses and politics.
so there you go Mr. Akhmad

Urdu News Columnists and Anchors -- should we always believe them? Re: # 18
Aziz Ahmed sahib
Review this one too and bless us with your comments:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=UgMx2F41XD0

After all there is some truth to these preparations, now its possible that these plans may not be implemented by G. Bush, the Bush under which we live.

Against Zardari\'s Pakistan Re: # 15
Quite a commitment this happens to be, more power to you Z

Yes we can, Obama! Re: # 129
The card carrying members !

Against Zardari\'s Pakistan Re: # 10 Barristerakc
I second you on that opinion and understand your point very well. At the given moment I agree Pakistan is not ready and able to take another shake up of elected authority and those who have received the mandate should be allowed to function as that is the only thing in the favor of our homeland.
Hopefully we will get across this ocean of problems once again, lets wait and see while contributing for the cause.

Yes we can, Obama! Hamidm2 baitay
Matloob mian nahin matloob bawa
Who are you?
I am sure everyone here is well educated other than the obvious one.
Just wait till your butt is cut and pasted elsewhere since you love to stick it where it doesn't belong.
Are you appointed as some jamaydar/bhangi/choora by the Chowk administration and feel threatened by what others feel should be brought to the attention of general audience?
Why don't you live with what others have to say?
Insha'Allah the day will come when those shinning beacons will shine through the rear-ends of your kind and your aulaad.
Stop inflicting insults against our beloved Prophet PBUH:
you don't seem to have enough gooda in your bones so you want to bring in "if you are not careful the horrible hindoos will send you packing back to kashghar or mecca or baghdad or some other godforsaken place you claim you came from ........"
Since you are such a handicap & retard why don't you shut up and mind your very own business as you are worse than a great number of Hindus who interact here in a much pleasant manner, but what do you know about mannerism you happen to be a murtid with a name you accidentally received from your parents perhaps since you lived in Muslim neighborhood.
In future don't address me about the posts that were not posted to your attention. What did you do with the money your mama gave you to go to school.

Against Zardari\'s Pakistan Can't seem to understand when, where and how Zardari became a politician. Yes he did somehow entered the pavillion during BB's reign however that does not qualify him as a politician nor does his long term incarceration whether or not it was justified qualifies him for bearing the credentials of a politician.
What Pakistan is seeing today of Zardari or PPP is strictly based upon the "sympathy factor" and nothing else.
In as much as the Not-so-Sharif brothers are concerned who were brought up by the then Military Dictator (Late)Gen. Zia Ul Haq, while the two are tunnel visioned, cock-eyed so-called politicians who look for their very own interest and for their cronies too just like true with any other politicians of Pakistan who either came corrupted or became corrupted.

Yes we can, Obama! History of Zionism and British Mandate of Palestine
Jews living in the Diaspora have long aspired to return to Zion and the Land of Israel. That hope and yearning was articulated in the Bible, and is a central theme in the Jewish prayer book. Beginning in the 12th century, Catholic persecution of Jews led to a steady stream leaving Europe to settle in the Holy Land, increasing in numbers after Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492. During the 16th century large communities struck roots in the Four Holy Cities, and in the second half of the 18th century, entire Hasidic communities from eastern Europe settled in the Holy Land.

The first large wave of modern immigration, known as the First Aliyah, began in 1881, as Jews fled pogroms in Eastern Europe. While the Zionist movement already existed in theory, Theodor Herzl is credited with founding political Zionism, a movement which sought to establish a Jewish state in the Land of Israel, by elevating the Jewish Question to the international plane.

In 1896, Herzl published Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State), offering his vision of a future state; the following year he presided over the first World Zionist Congress.

The Second Aliyah (1904–1914), began after the Kishinev pogrom. Some 40,000 Jews settled in Palestine. Both the first and second waves of migrants were mainly Orthodox Jews, but those in the Second Aliyah included socialist pioneers who established the kibbutz movement. During World War I, British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour issued what became known as the Balfour Declaration, which "view[ed] with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people." The Jewish Legion, a group of battalions composed primarily of Zionist volunteers, assisted in the British conquest of Palestine. Arab opposition to the plan led to the 1920 Palestine riots and the formation of the Jewish organization known as the Haganah (meaning "The Defense" in Hebrew), from which the Irgun and Lehi split off.

In 1922, the League of Nations granted the United Kingdom a mandate over Palestine for the express purpose of "placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home". The population of the area at this time was predominantly Muslim Arab, while the largest urban area in the region, Jerusalem, was predominantly Jewish.

Jewish immigration continued with the Third Aliyah (1919–1923) and Fourth Aliyah (1924–1929), which together brought 100,000 Jews to Palestine. In the wake of the Jaffa riots in the early days of the Mandate, the British restricted Jewish immigration and territory slated for the Jewish state was allocated to Transjordan. The rise of Nazism in the 1930s led to the Fifth Aliyah, with an influx of a quarter of a million Jews. This influx resulted in the Arab revolt of 1936–1939 and led the British to cap immigration with the White Paper of 1939. With countries around the world turning away Jewish refugees fleeing the Holocaust, a clandestine movement known as Aliyah Bet was organized to bring Jews to Palestine. By the end of World War II, Jews accounted for 33% of the population of Palestine, up from 11% in 1922.

1948 Palestine war and Declaration of Independence (Israel)
After 1945 the United Kingdom became embroiled in an increasingly violent conflict with the Jews. In 1947, the British government withdrew from commitment to the Mandate of Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews. The newly created United Nations approved the UN Partition Plan (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on November 29, 1947, dividing the country into two states, one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was to be designated an international city – a corpus separatum – administered by the UN to avoid conflict over its status. The Jewish community accepted the plan, but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee rejected it.

Regardless, the State of Israel was proclaimed on May 14, 1948, one day before the expiry of the British Mandate for Palestine. Not long after, five Arab countries – Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq – attacked Israel, launching the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, although conflict between the Jews and Arabs of Palestine started earlier.

After a year of fighting, a ceasefire was declared and temporary borders, known as the Green Line, were established. Jordan annexed what became known as the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip. Israel was admitted as a member of the United Nations on May 11, 1949. During the war 711,000 Arabs, according to UN estimates, or about 80% of the previous Arab population, fled the country. The fate of the Palestinian refugees today is a major point of contention in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In the early years of the state, the Labor Zionist movement led by Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion dominated Israeli politics. These years were marked by mass immigration of Holocaust survivors and an influx of Jews persecuted in Arab lands. The population of Israel rose from 800,000 to two million between 1948 and 1958. Most arrived as refugees with no possessions and were housed in temporary camps known as ma'abarot. By 1952, over 200,000 immigrants were living in these tent cities. The need to solve the crisis led Ben-Gurion to sign a reparations agreement with West Germany that triggered mass protests by Jews angered at the idea of Israel "doing business" with Germany.

During the 1950s, Israel was frequently attacked by Palestinian fedayeen, mainly from the Egyptian-occupied Gaza Strip. In 1956, Israel joined a secret alliance with The United Kingdom and France aimed at recapturing the Suez Canal, which the Egyptians had nationalized (see the Suez Crisis). Despite capturing the Sinai Peninsula, Israel was forced to retreat due to pressure from the United States and the Soviet Union in return for guarantees of Israeli shipping rights in the Red Sea and the Canal.
At the start of the following decade, Israel captured Adolf Eichmann, an architect of the Final Solution hiding in Argentina, and brought him to trial. The trial had a major impact on public awareness of the Holocaust, and to date Eichmann remains the only person sentenced to death by Israeli courts.


So where did they come from? none of them was from the holy land

David Ben-Gurion - 1st Prime Minister of Israel
Born 16 October 1886 - Płońsk, Poland Russian Empire
Died 1 December 1973 Israel

Moshe Sharett - 2nd Prime Minister of Israel
Born 15 October 1894 - Kherson, Ukraine
Died 7 July 1965 - 7 July 1965 Israel

Levi Eshkol - 3rd Prime Minister of Israel
Born 25 October 1895 - Oratov, Ukraine
Died 26 February 1969 - Jerusalem, Israel

Golda Meir - 4th Prime Minister of Israel
Born: 3 May 1898 Kiev, Russian Empire
Died: 8 December 1978/ Jerusalem, Israel

For further information also view http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NwWLL4LB58