How real is your politik? The Hakim Ali Zardari' family family came into prominence after the marriage of Benazir Bhutto with Asif Zardari. The Zardari family has gained more power and prestige after the assassination of Benazir Bhutto., in August 2004, Zardari finally admitted owning a £4.35m estate in Surrey, England (including a 20-room mansion and two farms on 365 acres, or 1.5 km², of land), which the Pakistani authorities allege was bought with the proceeds of corruption.
Legal proceedings brought by the then Government of Pakistan against Zardari to recover the sale proceeds of the property are continuing before the High Court of Justice of England and Wales. In October 2006, the court dismissed Zardari's application to halt the proceedings on the basis that it did not have jurisdiction to hear the case. As of late 2007, Zardari is seeking permission to appeal that decision.
rench, Polish, Spanish, and Swiss documents have fuelled the charges of corruption against Bhutto and her husband. They faced a number of legal proceedings, including a charge of laundering money through Swiss banks. Though never convicted, her husband, Asif Ali Zardari, spent eight years in prison on similar corruption charges. After being released on bail in 2004, Zardari suggested that his time in prison involved torture; human rights groups have supported his claim that his rights were violated.
A 1998 New York Times investigative report claims that Pakistani investigators have documents that uncover a network of bank accounts, all linked to the family's lawyer in Switzerland, with Asif Zardari as the principal shareholder. According to the article, documents released by the French authorities indicated that Zardari offered exclusive rights to Dassault, a French aircraft manufacturer, to replace the air force's fighter jets in exchange for a 5% commission to be paid to a Swiss corporation controlled by Zardari. The article also said a Dubai company received an exclusive license to import gold into Pakistan for which Asif Zardari received payments of more than $10 million into his Dubai-based Citibank accounts. The owner of the company denied that he had made payments to Zardari and claims the documents were forged.

Bhutto maintained that the charges levelled against her and her husband were purely political.An Auditor General of Pakistan (AGP) report supports Bhutto's claim. It presents information suggesting that Benazir Bhutto was ousted from power in 1990 as a result of a witch hunt approved by then-president Ghulam Ishaq Khan. The AGP report says Khan illegally paid legal advisers 28 million rupees to file 19 corruption cases against Bhutto and her husband in 1990-92.
Yet the assets held by Bhutto and her husband continue to be scrutinized and speculated about. The prosecutors have alleged that their Swiss bank accounts contain £740 million.
Zardari also bought a neo-Tudor mansion and estate worth over £4 million in Surrey, England, UK. The Pakistani investigations have tied other overseas properties to Zardari's family. These include a $2.5 million manor in Normandy owned by Zardari's parents, who had modest assets at the time of his marriage.[4] Bhutto denied holding substantive overseas assets.
In the largest single payment investigators have uncovered, a gold bullion dealer in Western Asia was alleged to have deposited at least $10 million into one of Zardari's accounts after the Bhutto government gave him a monopoly on gold imports that sustained Pakistan's jewellery industry. The money was allegedly deposited into Zardari's Citibank account in Dubai. Pakistan's Arabian Sea coast, stretching from Karachi to the border with Iran, has long been a gold smugglers' haven. Until the beginning of Bhutto's second term, the trade, running into hundreds of millions of dollars a year, was unregulated, with slivers of gold called biscuits, and larger weights in bullion, carried on planes and boats that travel between the Persian Gulf and the largely unguarded Pakistani coast.
Shortly after Bhutto returned as Prime Minister in 1993, a Pakistani bullion trader in Dubai, Abdul Razzak Yaqub(Owner of ARY TV), proposed a deal: in return for the exclusive right to import gold, Razzak would help the government regularize the trade. In November 1994, Pakistan's Commerce Ministry wrote to Razzak informing him that he had been granted a license that made him, for at least the next two years, Pakistan's sole authorized gold importer. In an interview in his office in Dubai, Razzak acknowledged that he had used the license to import more than $500 million in gold into Pakistan, and that he had travelled to Islamabad several times to meet with Bhutto and Zardari. But he denied that there had been any corruption or secret deals. "I have not paid a single cent to Zardari," he said. Razzak claims that someone in Pakistan who wished to destroy his reputation had contrived to have his company wrongly identified as the depositor. "Somebody in the bank has cooperated with my enemies to make false documents," he said.

BB's niece and others have publicly accused Bhutto of complicity in the killing of her brother Murtaza Bhutto in 1996 by uniformed police officers while she was Prime Minister.

How real is your politik? Pakistan presidential candidate Asif Ali Zardari 'suffering from severe mental problems'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/2622123/Pakistan-pre sidential-candidate-Asif-Ali-Zardari-suffering-from-severe-mental-problems.html

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 288
Criticism for mere criticism is all such people do Ijaz saheb such people cant contribute anything constructive or positive and are no better than termite for the nation of Pakistan.

This habit of criticizing is just another kind of addiction and unless they go through this routine their toilets remain deprived of a daily flush.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 281 Typical Not-So-Sharif follower.

As long as opportunists such as # 281 are around, no matter who rules Pakistan they will make sure that they drown with him regardless of how much damage the nation faces.

So rant, rant and rant all you care too, but rhetoric stands out as rhetoric.

Its the selfish politicians and those supporters who care to be the beneficiaries of their culmination that are going to drown the nation more than once.

Bonga aka Chumbo cannot progress anywhere beyond the limits of it's vision meanwhile an army of Chumboes continues to grow bigger.

As far your dumb claim to the ownership of Pakistan is concerned Pakistan is Pakistan and does not belong to the impure of your stature.

Perhaps your tahmed was wrapped on your head when you distributed mithaee in 1999 clapped, beat drums and break danced.

A hypocrite identifies his cronies based on his firsthand knowledge.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond All those who licked the opportunity to re-enter politics were administering the hypocrite that is embedded within each of these politicians and "every one" attempted to get on the record as if they were really conveying condolences at BB's demise.
This list includes every aspiring so-called politician of the current era whether they represent PPP, PPPP, Jamat-e-Islami, JUI, ANP,MQM Tehreek-e-Insaaf & many others while this extended to include the EX-CJP and many others who wanted to cash in on this opportunity to gain exposure in the media and validate their existence.
They knew that the unfortunate demise of BB has triggered a fury of sympathizers all over and this uncalled for event within the design of Pakistani Style democracy imminently guaranteed a major success for the Pakistan People's Party, this produced a serious shock among the so-called politicians because they knew no matter what they promised to the people of Pakistan if not everyone a great majority was going to honor BB by voting for her political party.
If it was not for the demise of BB things would have been somewhat different on the day of general elections although PPP may still have counted a large number of votes in their favor but not quite as overwhelming.
This was the best opportunity for AZ to re-enter or the arena knowing that since he is BB's husband all eyes were looking in his direction, the arena that BB has forbidden for him while alive knowing his level and intellect when it comes to piggy-backing to every transaction carried out in Pakistan even if he anticipated the slightest financial gain, this is all AZ is about.
He has done it before with limited powers and unlimited chaperoning & protection by BB and he is guaranteed to do it again.
Imagine his creation of BB's will and production of the same nominating him the Chairman or Co-chair of the party, a party that preaches democracy yet selects instead of electing their chairperson! the hyphenating of the name of lesser Zardari appending -Bhutto to it at 18-19 years of no Pakistani experience, over-riding several other balanced political intellects within PPP who all now bow to AZ & BZ-B.
What a joke of the nation of Pakistan is being made and how long these jugglers will continue to juggle with Pakistan, as it is there is every type of problem existing for the people of Pakistan yet these jugglers are so busy with their own innuendos.
What happened to the people of Pakistan who are being tampered with on a non-stop basis for all these decades? and yet they are fooled over and again by these jugglers who have robbed the nation in past and will continue like habitual dacoits.
All those cases that were established against Az took place during the era of NS yet they shook hand with a wicked smile on their faces when BB was killed. AZ wants UNO to investigate this tragic event although a great number of Pakistanis and outsiders place as a suspect in the removal of BB as well as her brother Murtaza Bhutto.
Against all ethics the EX-CJP also visited AZ in person while there were still active issues on the table in courts of Pakistan against AZ, the same EX-CJP when released from house arrest accurately declined with jurisprudence to see the ladies of "Laal Masjid" who came to congratulate and greet him on his release based on the same grounds but went to meet AZ?
Long Live Pakistan

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 222
Zia Ul Haq marhoom will have to revisit to teach him.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 205
How a demon can be demonized further?
AZ is a well known demon in as long as he has been on the horizon of Pakistan's politics, while to a select few he is known to be in this state even before being married to BB which is a known fact that this marriage was imposed too.
Jub geedar key maut atee haye tou woh shehr key taraf bhagta haye haye likewise Zardari is also running towards the slaughter house he is destined for.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond Re: # 211
There is no doubt that AZ will face it like he made many face it before. It's now his turn.
Bakray key maan kab tak khair manaye gee, ek na ek din tou churri kay neechay aye gee.

Musharraf\'s Resignation and Beyond And then he did what no leader in Pakistan has ever done: publically
Ayub Khan also publically announced his resignation on 25 March 1969.

School Days Re: # 5
tahmed sahib to add on Zardari also went to St. Pats don't think he ever graduated though.

Thinking of an Obama presidency, what ‘change’ may we really see? Thinking of an Obama presidency, what ‘change’ may we really see?
Do we really need to be concerned about this?
If elected to office he will preside over USA not the entire world.
It is normally expected that anyone taking the leading position of a nation would be sincere and loyal to their cause and "national interest", it should be left to those nations to find and chose the one who is best for their nation, rather than for "us" sub-continentals to worry as to who will bend over to accommodate us.
It is also time for the people of Pakistan to use their wisdom and knowledge to find those who are sincere, loyal and honest to the cause of Paksitanis to place them as their first line leaders. Its important that we stop eyeing others for possible connections and monetary contributions, as long as we dont change our mentality and continue to seek as to who will be good for us, while we are not good to ourselves there is no way that we will ever get out of this quagmire where the systems of our govt and country will run according to the wishes of those who contribute to our welfare.
Every individual will need to work hard towards gaining the goals of Pakistan and "will have to forget about seeking avenues to acquire khairat from other so called supreme powers".
Take pride in what Allah has blessed us with and treasure those blessings with an open heart and mind sharing it with others in the nation and if there is some available that exceeds our needs have a big heart and pass it along to others on this earth.

Toward a Pakistani Media Strategy Re: # 5 by Salim
This is what I call more than a million dollar question!

Can the two co-exist behind a common message?

What Talibanization? Re: # 45
Walaikum Assalam WRWB
Beautiful dissection of the article that goes beyond limits to seek de-hijabization.
JazakAllah khair

And then there was The Impeachment Issue… You are what you speak, so you show your reality to the world at this chowk, at least you removed your cover and came out.
Good ridding.
Who cares to communicate with the one who is diseased with fitnah and shows his class which is as low as one can go.
Its shameful that such characters consider themselves Pakistani, inshaAllah God will get us rid of such characters one day by either straightening them out or removing them.
Even Dr. Jummah would not have been able to fix such heads that are hollow and brainless.

And then there was The Impeachment Issue… You must be kidding. It was difficult to find a single Sindhi professional (Doctor etc) in Karachi as well as in the provincial services although Karachi is Sindh. Same thing in Federal Services.


Either you are not familiar with the ground realities or you wish to start a new session while this could be substantiated that your innuendos are culmination of none other but pure hatred at it's best.
Find out about

1) Dr. Naseer Shaikh a Sindhi and was well known as a pioneer physician/surgeon in Karachi and also reknowned internationally.

2) Dr. Memon also a Sindhi, the head of Opthalmology at JPGMC also a reknowned physician/surgeon who cured hundreds of thousands of people without distinction for ethnicity while he happens to be a close acquaintance of mine and also performed cataract surgery for my mother in the early 70's.

Other than Physicians/Surgeons, there were other intellect before and during the 70's that you bring up based upon your unknown innendos, to name a few:

1)Pir Ali Mohammed Rashidi
2)Abdul Wahid Sindhi

while no one can cancel their contributions to Pakistan in general and Karachi-Sindh in particular.

You are encouraged to research before you open your big mouth and attempt to spread the hatred that you are engaged in, this is what some like to do as they are the creation of the mindset which believes in "divide and rule", however some try but did not do their homework before striking their pen.

Also look up and find out who was the appointed as the first Authority of Port Qasim while it was envisioned, planned and then constructed, a very dedicated, well educated Sindhi individual who also happens to be a close acquaintance and since he does not allow publicity of his name based on his humility I will not name him here, but he came from a modest Sindi family and disliked fame which keeps me from mentioning his name.

Your writing in this regard happens to be quite venomous however you should remember that no matter how much people try to inflame Sindhis and Mohajirs against each other due to the existence of enough people with wisdom and tolerance such attempts will not come true not at least as long as people who have seen history being written are still around with an intact memory of it. Those who try to create fitnah thinking that they will remain on the sidelines as innocent bystanders shall have their day either in this life and if not definitely in the hereafter.

Throwing in the "chotti yey" creation of yours once again brings your true picture to surface which cannot be considered any less than a fitnah creator while the performance is not one that reflects any loyalty to the cause of having an independent nation for Muslims of Sub-continent and finds you busy trying to undermine this cause at it's best which places such characters under the label of Traitors.

Either you were not around when Pakistan became an independent nation or you did not even make an effort to learn about it with sincerity being from a later generation and you find it amusing to become part of those who are too busy creating fitnah and dividing the people of Pakistan creating stories to place two ethnicities against other, which is shameful.

When you start a business you look for people who are able and available to hit the ground running, you dont wait to start the business till graduates of a given class are out of school so once they are available you will start your business unless you are too keen to only engage in a business when the given class has graduated while such business owners are non-existent in the world.

Yes I have quoted the book, "but" not you to derive support of "your innuendos" from it, nor am I the author of the book, but you certainly appear to be one that wishes to promote hatred among Sindis & Mohajirs so that "you" of the unknown ethnic origin to me and certainly from a third ethnic background can gain while, the two become engage in against each other, quite a conspirator you come out to be, but you will find some who will tell you so on your face.

Stop this fitnah creation of yours Zeemax mian as you happen to be the pioneer fasadi of this decade acting in the manner you are.

Who can deny the fact that in the early days of Pakistan and even up until the famous 70's those who worked hard to acquire education and sat in parks at night under the light of lamp posts or sat at home studying the long hot nights under a hurricane-lamp, the lantern or a candle did not work hard to build their educational foundation, nearly every ambitious ethnic who did not quit under the given hardships of those days achieved and all those who worked hard achieved and those were the loyalists of Pakistan who strived hard to work for the nation in many ways, most of those generations did not go away to Europe or USA to seek better lives but were committed to do something to enhance their very own country Pakistan.

I recall numerous occasions when a child was asked what they want to be when they grow up, those who wanted to go for teaching and asked why always said because they want to educate the future nation of Pakistan, those who went for medicine always said they would like to serve their Pakistani bretheren.

The book you chose to taunt me is one I have read before offering to you and know all what it discusses and still offered, it was not meant for you to seek fortification of your innuendos to see Mohajirs as some dacoits who took over the wealth you or yours were sitting with over there when they arrived. Whatever little they had when they migrated either they lost it or brought it to Pakistan, you should at least bring yourself to Pakistan with some good intentions and get over this rat race of ahieving superiority by the blame game and allow for the Mohajirs to let them surface their grievances in a democratic manner rather than attempting to supress their voice by desigining your own democracy which has no legs to stand on.

It is a well known fact that there are good bad and ugly in all ethnicities I encourage you to grow up and be accounted in the earliest one rather than acting alike the others, but you as an individual make this difference as to what you come out as, every individual counts and adds up to represent the voice of a nation, so its your choice if you make your life useful and help yourself while helping others or stand alone at some corner screaming your theories that spread no more than hatred. I would wish to see "you" at a better place doing better than you are, specially since you appear to demonstrate the ability to do so and conclude this discussion where you chose to "prove points" and I don't since the main point is the love among those who chose to build a nation of brotherhood and not merely proving right or wrong against each other neck and neck.

As a proud Mohajir+Urdu Speaking I am very satisfied that I never in my life committed an act against anyone based on ethnic origins or belief and shall seek my way to my grave being content to this extent.

May the one you believe in bless you with more wisdom, ameen.

And then there was The Impeachment Issue… Re: # 427 tahmed

Ridiculous posts don't deserve a response better than what you got.

I stand by what I told you, while you not being aware of the facts of the very first stand-off that MQM faces and became involved with armed violence can continue to blabber and its your pen and ink that goes to waste, but I promise to counter your imagination on every post where you consider what you call to be measly excuse since it is not an excuse to began with.

No they did not start it and I know for a fact that they were not armed up until attacked by the ghetto people who identify themselves to be Pakhtoons and are not; it was then, when Altaf challenged all the Urdu speaking/Mohajirs to stop wasting their money in luxuries of life, videos and movies and concentrate on their existence by preparing to defend themselves.

By the way the discussion is about "your" who stared; which brings the million dollar question to the table, WHY? we are discussing about specifics of Karachi, MQM, Sohrab Goth, the so-called Pakhtoons of Sohrab Goth, your assertion that "even if it is true it is still an absurd excuse" EXCUSE ME, come on now start making some sense if you want others to accept your theories of absurdity.

Always remember what may be absurd to you may be entirely relevant to another, and it is possible that you are unaware of the ground facts for which I will grant you the benefit of doubt.

This is when, where and how all the involvement of MQM with firearms began and progressed to a stage that I am not appreciative of nor do I condone such acts beyond self-defense.

It is a standard practice throughout the world to ask why? if something appears wrong, and when there is a why there will be a response to that WHY, either people should stop asking why or be prepared to receive a response accordingly, civilized people don't assume that they can conclude a conversation by calling the other absurd; in between your lines there lies a big WHY which you attempt to carefully reserve as a rain-check.

I hope I have made myself as clear as it gets and it is your prerogative to conclude for your understanding the way you understand, which I have no authority over and you can continue to add absurdity to your understanding. However I am not seeking a certification from your highness of what I am about.

If asking the administration to take action against anti-social elements amounts to starting it then that tells about your understanding of where it all began.
Not being a big time supporter of violence and armed clashes I still insist that MQM's reaction to the so-called Pakhtoons of Sohrab Goth ghetto was absolutely appropriate and should have been even more powerful.
Truth cannot be classified as absurd therefore I must conclude that the understanding of the person who loves to redundantly use the term must be absurd.

What makes you think that if someone is attacked with firearms they should take it silently? I cant imagine if you are attacked you will take it sitting quietly, you cant even digest the reason and call it absurd as well as a standard excuse!!

With regards to your name, God forbid I don't even know your name, I believe you have opted for this nick considering it to be represent what it comes out to be when read, however, if you are offended by my attempt to joke about Tehmed & Langoat I submit my deepest apologies as I cannot carry the burden of having offended another person with me to my grave and hope that you will overlook and forgive me for having joked about the difference of Tehmed & Langoat. I shall wait to hear from you that you did forgive me for having caused the feeling of being humiliated which was not my intention but since you did.