History and Origins of MQM Part II Back to square one, people of Pakistan are never going to straighten out and never understand their purpose of being in "this world".

History and Origins of MQM Part II This is only Part-II as such comments are better held off until a conclusion is released by Mr. Chishti.
Looking forward to read more from you Mr. Chishti

Muhammad Aslam Khan Khattak: A Man for All Seasons Re: # 38
Applicable vice versa, "Hey, power is very addictive. Once you have tasted it, you never want to let it go."

Too bad your dreams did not come true.

Muhammad Aslam Khan Khattak: A Man for All Seasons inna lillahi wainna ilayhi rajiAAoon.
May Allah bless his soul and place him in the best levels of Janatul Firdous, ameen.
Such were the hardworking people who did not fear from the hardships of their given times and continued to progress with sincerity and being steadfast, mashaAllah.
As family your pride in his achievements is most certainly appreciable.

‘Dustbin of history’ or ‘history of sorts’

“Independent Kashmir will be surrounded by three South Asian nuclear powers, India, Pakistan and China; and then it won’t be possible for Kashmir to survive on the economic front as well as from the strategic point of view,”


That is so naive, don't they want to become a nuclear power themselves too? they wont, until they give up sitting on the railway tracks counting the trains go by, they got to get on the train and move from point A to point B or else they must be representing Delhi in Kashmir.

MQM - History and Origins Re: # 49 Meiraj08
A lot of those who synonymously and alternatively consider Urdu & MQM to be one and the same are no where close to being literate.
Punjab/Lahore in the pre-partition era has always been considered one of the three centers or cradle of Urdu among Lucknow and Hyderabad Deccan.
A great deal of work on the development and progress of Urdu was also carried out by the Punjabi intellects then.
Among the many intellects of that and later era were some highly educated Sindhis as well, one of them was (Late) Abdul Wahid Sindhi who was responsible for producing tons of Urdu Text Book material for various boards of education of Pakistan, I have personally known him and know that he never carried any type of bias based on the language and even being a Sindhi he loved Urdu, likewise Allama Sir Mohammed Iqbal who was of Punjabi origin and nothing has crossed my eyes which reflects that he held a bias based on language.
Those who spew such poison can only be considered less than literate.
Don't let this hurt you in any manner since there have always been people of such nature with a negative approach in any given period.

MQM - History and Origins Re: # 56 thinkingStorm
It is sad to note that this forum is being operated by biased ones who chose to restrain you from your right to freedom of speech although you said nothing that was below the belt or reflects any level of prejudice.
It does remind me of the early 70's ZAB era though when the then home secretary of Sindh was asked by ZAB to block the public meeting of another political rival, and M.K.Junejo ordered the PIA flight to be diverted from its intended destination since it was carrying the leaders and speakers of the opponent party the flight was held at another airport till the meeting time has passed and the passengers were then brought to their destination in Hyderabad-Sind.
I was an eyewitness account for these orders by ZAB to Junejo and him carrying out the orders.
Quite a similar situation it appears on this cross roads too where at the intersection the message of unity and solidarity was considered inapporpriate; which side does this place the blockaders on ? Are they with us? or They are against us?

MQM - History and Origins Re: # 51 PakiTurk

Sad to learn that conspiracies take place even in such an appearing to open forum to undermine things discussed that may not interest them or their mission so to speak, however, keep up the good work and don't let this let your spirits down since it may have been an editor who does not understand the language.

The time now is to look forward since scratching the wounds will do no more than bleeding them over and feel the hurt all over again.
Let us all move forward and work in harmony with honesty and sincerity and surely the Almighty SWT has promised to help those who do not create fassad in the earth.
May Allah SWT bring us closer to each other in the true spirits to overcome the past and to live together with one another in peace and harmony, ameen.

MQM - History and Origins Re: # 26 Salim_Chauhan
Your comments are absolutely true about Hurricane, I find him to be a kind and brotherly presence here as well as yourself.
Regards.

MQM - History and Origins Re: # 28 Hurricane
Ditto on the following:
"MY wish is that Karachi once again becomes safe and stable and becomes the shining light of Pakistan it once was, and inshallah will be again soon."

I do miss those days.

Whose Dog? Abundant dog talk here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He82NBjJqf8
check it out.

We Have Met the Enemy and the Enemy is Us! Re: # 350
Janab
Anyone in their right mind cant oppose what you recommend, provided they understand, the message is important and absolute need of the time.

Muslim Psyche After September 11, 2001 September 11 suspect calls U.S. trial "inquisition"
Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:32pm EDT

By Randall Mikkelsen

GUANTANAMO BAY U.S. NAVAL BASE, Cuba (Reuters) - The suspected planner of the September 11 attacks denounced the Guantanamo war crimes court as an "inquisition" and failed to persuade the U.S. military judge on Wednesday to disqualify himself as biased against Muslims.

"We are your enemy," Khalid Sheikh Mohammed told the judge, Marine Col. Ralph Kohlmann. "You are an officer in the United States armed forces ... Myself and my brothers will be judged by the same armed forces that are killing our people."

Mohammed spoke in English as he outlined objections at a pretrial hearing to Kohlmann on behalf of himself and four accused September 11 co-conspirators, who face a potential death sentence if convicted.

Mohammed accused Kohlmann of disrespecting Islam. He said the judge lacked capital-case experience and that his service from 1995 to 1997 under the officer who is now the chief prosecutor at Guantanamo means he could not give the suspects an unbiased hearing.

Mohammed also said Kohlmann's plans to retire on April 1 could lead him to unfairly rush the case.

"I would never believe that you are capable of presiding over this case," said Mohammed, who was acting as his own attorney. "In your eyes I am Islamic extremist."

"We are part of an inquisition rather than a civil or military case," he said.

Kohlmann denied the disqualification request on all grounds and said four times the defense accusations were "completely wrong."

Summing it up, he said, "I find that I am qualified to serve as the military judge in this military commission."

The challenge to Kohlmann came after a round of defense questioning on Tuesday that is a unique feature of military courts and the tribunals established to try terrorism suspects at the Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base in Cuba.

Mohammed and four other defendants -- Ramzi Binalshibh, Mustafa Ahmed al Hawsawi, Walid bin Attash and Ali Abdul Aziz Ali -- are charged with conspiring with al Qaeda to kill civilians in the September 11 attacks, which triggered U.S. President George W. Bush's war on terrorism.

The men face 2,973 counts of murder, one for each person killed when hijacked airliners crashed into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field.

Mohammed has claimed responsibility for 31 attacks and plots, including the September 11 attacks and the beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

Mohammed's speaking for his fellow defendants, from his table in the front of the courtroom, reflected the informal leadership position he has assumed in the case.

He was assigned to speak third on Wednesday, but his fellow defendants deferred to him.

Mohammed on Monday offered to meet with Binalshibh to persuade him to end his refusal to appear in court and avert a forced removal from his cell. Kohlmann said no, but allowed him and the other defendants to write letters, and Binalshibh showed up voluntarily the next day.

Mohammed also asked Kohlmann to break early on Tuesday to allow for Islamic practices during the holy month of Ramadan and to impose a stricter dress code on women court participants, which the judge denied. Mohammed's complaint was believed to be directed at a prosecution paralegal whose shoulders were bare.

Those denials formed more grist for Mohammed's objections. "I do not believe that your government respects Muslims," he said.

(Editing by Jane Sutton and David Wiessler)

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion Zardari Says U.S. Raids Harm Pakistan's Anti-Extremist Campaign

By Michael Heath
Sept. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said unilateral U.S. air strikes and ground assaults inside his country are undermining efforts to control extremists in tribal regions bordering Afghanistan.

``Such actions weaken our position to win the hearts and minds of the people,'' Zardari told a news conference in New York yesterday, according to the official Associated Press of Pakistan. ``That is the moral of this story.''

The Pentagon has presidential permission to unilaterally strike Taliban and al-Qaeda targets in Pakistan, Defense Secretary Robert Gates told the Senate Armed Services Committee in Washington two days ago.

Pakistan has demanded that its sovereignty be respected and vowed to defend its territory from external attacks. Zardari said, in order to curb the appeal of extremist groups, Pakistan needs international support to improve the economy and living conditions in the tribal areas.

``We need to revisit the situation with regard to the war on terror'' and reduce the suffering of people in areas where the battle is being waged, he said.

U.S. government officials are trying to organize international talks in New York this week to debate common strategies to help Pakistan defeat Islamic militants, Agence France-Presse reported.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice plans to meet tomorrow with her counterparts from Pakistan and European, Asian and Persian Gulf countries, AFP cited an unidentified U.S. official as saying. The official declined to name the countries involved.

Militants Killed

Pakistan says it's doing enough militarily to combat pro- Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters on its territory. Security forces killed six militants in the Bajaur tribal area bordering Afghanistan yesterday, the military said.

Pakistani troops, backed by fighter jets and helicopters, attacked hideouts in districts including Loisam, Shakia, Khazana and Tang Khata, APP reported, citing unidentified military officials. Twenty-five militants were killed in fighting in Rasakai and Loisam the evening before, it said.

Security forces have killed more than 700 militants since starting the offensive in Bajaur about six weeks ago, according to the military.

Anger at the U.S. in Pakistan has increased following reports that civilians were killed in American missile attacks against militants.

Spy Plane

Pakistan's military said a U.S. spy plane malfunctioned and crashed in the tribal region two days ago while flying over the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. The wreckage was recovered in South Waziristan, it said.

Pakistani media earlier reported that the country's security forces and local tribesmen shot down the drone.

The U.S. yesterday denied an unmanned aircraft went down in Pakistan. Defense Department spokesman Geoff Morrell said a surveillance aircraft, or Predator, had crashed in Afghanistan in the past week due to mechanical failure.

``We lose Predators more often than you might realize,'' he told reporters. ``They fly an awful lot. A lot is being asked of them. And occasionally they go down, but none, thus far, to enemy fire in Pakistan.''

Gates told the Senate Armed Services Committee it was ``certainly'' his view that the United Nations charter allows a nation the right of self-defense when a foreign government is either unable or unwilling to take care of international terrorist activity inside its borders.


Last Updated: September 24, 2008 22:28 EDT

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion Re: # 241
3:28 LET NOT the believers take those who deny the truth for their allies in preference to the believers- since he who does this cuts himself off from God in everything - unless it be to protect yourselves against them in this way. But God warns you to beware of Him: for with God is all journeys' end.
[CONTEXT:do not take non-believers for friends or helpers]

40:28 At that, a believing man of Pharaoh’s family, who [until then] had concealed his faith, exclaimed: “Would you slay a man because he says, ‘God is my Sustainer’ - seeing, withal, that he has brought you all evidence of this truth from your Sustainer? Now if he be a liar, his lie will fall back on him; but if he is a man of truth, something [of the punishment] whereof he warns you is bound to befall you: for, verily, God would not grace with His guidance one who has wasted his own self by lying [about Him].
[CONTEXT: Pharaoh:and the Egyptian Believer]

Hotel Babylon: The Marriot Hotel Explosion Re: # 136
HuJI behind Islamabad blast, says report

PTI | September 22, 2008 | 18:01 IST

Harkat-ul-Jihad-al Islami, a Pakistani terrorist outfit with close links to the Al-Qaeda, is now suspected to have carried out Saturday's devastating bombing of the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad which killed 53 people, including four foreigners, a media report said.

So far, the needle of suspicion for the suicide bombing--the deadliest in Pakistan--was on the Pakistani Taliban.
Quoting intelligence officials probing the attack on the Marriott, The News daily reported that the pattern of the attack on the Marriott pointed to the possible involvement of HuJI and its leader Qari Saifullah Akhtar and not the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, which has been blamed for most recent suicide bombings in the country.

HuJI is known to maintain close links with Al-Qaeda, at whom a finger of suspicion has been pointed by Pakistani experts for the Marriott bombing.

In the massive manhunt launched aftermath of the suicide bombing, investigators said that they believe that the bombers constructed the massive 600-kg truck bomb in the capital, since all lorries entering Islamabad are searched at checkpoints. So the main thrust of the investigators is to locate the 'safe houses' and HuJI and al-Qaeda cells in the capital.

Media reports said that in all probability the bombers could have smuggled explosives into Islamabad in smaller consignments and then constructed the deadly truck bomb. A suicide bomber rammed a truck packed with high intensity explosives, including RDX and TNT, into the main gate of the Marriott on Saturday and detonated the payload.

Asked about the motive of targeting the Marriott, the investigators said the hotel, a favourite with Westerners, is seen as an�American symbol and the attack could have been carried out as a retaliation to recent strikes by US-led forces in the border areas of Pakistan.

They also said over a dozen US Marines were staying in the hotel when it was attacked. The intelligence officials said the method of the attack on the five-star hotel and the type of explosives used were similar to four previous suicide car bomb attacks carried out by HuJI operatives in Lahore, Islamabad and Rawalpindi. These were the attacks on the Naval War College in Lahore on March 4, the suicide bombing of the headquarters of the Federal Investigation Agency in Lahore on March 11, the suicide attack on the Danish embassy in Islamabad on June 3 and the twin suicide attacks targeting former President Pervez Musharraf's motorcade in Rawalpindi in 2003.

In all these attacks, the bombers used vehicles packed with high-intensity explosives. A mix of RDX and TNT, both military grade explosives, was used in the attack on the Marriott. Investigators said a similar mix of RDX and TNT was used in the four earlier attacks by HuJI.

The March 11 bombing of the headquarters of the Federal Investigation Agency in Lahore was following by a near-simultaneous suicide attack on an advertising agency's office in the Model Town area that was confused by the bomber for an undercover office of the Special Investigation Authority. Six suspects of the HuJI, who were arrested after the attack on the Naval War College, were held at the FIA headquarters in Lahore for interrogation by the intelligence agencies.

Agencies investigating these attacks had concluded that they were carried out by HuJi as retaliation for the arrest of its chief Qari Saifullah Akhtar near Lahore on February 26.
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Akhtar was arrested in connection with the October 18, 2007 suicide attack on the homecoming procession of Pakistan Peoples Party chairperson Benazir Bhutto in Karachi that killed over 140 people.
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On March 15, four days after the suicide attack on the FIA headquarters, terrorists targeted an Islamabad restaurant - a popular hang out of foreign nationals.
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A Turkish woman was killed and several Americans, including three FBI agents who had come to Pakistan to investigate the FIA attack, were injured.
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Subsequent investigations showed the involvement of HUJI operatives in the attack on the restaurant. On March 26, Akhtar was released on bail after the investigating officer in his case reported to a court that no evidence had been found that the jihadi leader was linked to any terrorist activity.
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The judge ordered Akhtar's release on bail but he was rearrested under the Maintenance of Public Order and taken to a Karachi safe house.
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Five days after the suicide car bombing at the Danish embassy in Islamabad, Akhtar was released by the Sindh home department, which said the term for his detention had expired.
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The report said there were many among official circles who believed that the release was "actually facilitated by intelligence agencies in an apparent bid to stop the deadly wave of suicide bombings which had been let loose by the followers of Qari Saifullah".
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Akhtar was one of the few Pakistani jihadi leaders who escaped with Taliban leader Mullah Omar after US-led forces invaded Afghanistan in October 2001.
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Akhtar took shelter in South Waziristan before moving to Peshawar. Akhtar then fled to Saudi Arabia, from where he decided to move to the United Arab Emirates.
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On August 6, 2004, Akhtar was arrested by the UAE authorities and handed over to Pakistan.
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He was arrested following certain revelations during the investigation of the December 25, 2003 suicide attacks on former President Musharraf, when two suicide bombers tried to ram their explosive-laden cars into his motorcade.
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Investigations revealed that one of the suicide bombers, Khalique Ahmed alias Hazir Sultan, belonged to the HuJI and was hired by Akhtar's right-hand man Amjad Hussain Farooqui to target Musharraf.

http://www.rediff.com///news/2008/sep/22pak5.htm