Muslim Ghettoisation Reply to # 84 Hamidm2

Hamid mian,

I can understand your pain and your sense of loss.

People in the Muslim world also build bridges , and have fridges in their kitchens but it doesn't mean that corporations should be allowed to sell bikinis in High schools and priests distribute free condoms among 13 years old girls.

Muslim Ghettoisation Reply to # 83 tahmed32

You are right , I went to boys only school and almost 98 percent of my class fellow including myself were programmed to not have sexual experience before marriage.

I was playing with my neighbours daughter in an innocent way , and I was almost 14 and she was 13 , when my father came and said that I was not allowed to play with girls any more..

I asked why ..and his simple answer was that her dad would never like it.

99 percent children in a muslim world have dads.

Our society conditioned us and told us clearly that fooling around with the institution of marriage could leed to serious consequences.

Their philosophy is that if kids eat candies outside of home , then they don't feel hungry for a healthy complete meal on family's table.

Muslim Ghettoisation Reply to # 77 of Iron mask

Before desert storm of 1991 , Iraqi dinar was among the strongest currencies of the world and Iraq had excellent public schools but no churches were distributing free condoms among bikini clad " students ".

BTW , Ali's father was a Civil Engineer and he got a good job when he went back and his mother arranged his second marriage among her relatives.

I heard from other Iraqis that he indeed got two more beautiful sons from his new wife in Iraq , and they were going to a public school but there were no free condoms or co-sex-education in those schools.

Don't ask me what our westernized Ahmadi girls or Indian girls do in such co education western schools.

It is all about priorities , if money or wealth is the first priority then parents shut their eyes.

Muslim Ghettoisation Real Life story :

Ali parents come from Iraq to an ultra rich Western country as refugees.

Ali father observes that in co-education schools , churches and government were distributing free condoms to bikini clad students.

He wanted to take Ali and his newly born sister back to a Muslim society.

In the mean time Ali's mother gets westernized and divorces Ali's father so he goes back to a Muslim country alone.


Western economy needed Children like Ali and his sister.

Ali's mother get free apartment and a monthly check of 1500 dollars from the government.

Ali's mother gets a boy friend and Ali is admitted in a co-ed public school system.

Sex music, sex classes and countless sexual activities are running the economy of that ultra rich country.

Ali's white teacher keeps her special eyes on Ali and she asks him one day if he had a girl friend.

When Ali denies in a shyful manner, then she introduces him to his class mate Nancy and then she encourages Nancy to kiss Ali in a fun way .

Both Nancy and Ali and innocent lovers and both of them carve halloween pumpkins together in that on the surface secular country.

Both Nancy and Ali celebrate Christmas together.

They sang christmas songs together with students in an innocent manner.

Now Ali likes to be known as Al , and he hates fundamantalist and backward Muslim countries.

In the mean time Ali's sister also enters public school system and she also gets a black boy friend, and they are just innocent lovers.

Their identity is that new country , and they don't like Muslim food, backward muslim culture or even their muslim father.

By the time they reach to their twenties , they experienced so many boy friends and girl friends , and so many styles that they don't want to get married.

They simply hate their father and the institution of marriage.

They have their jobs , they spend all their money on clothing, fashion and restaurants and they decide that they will never marry any body.

In the mean time Al's siter got pregnant by a " boy friend ", but as she couldn't handle the burden of that child hence that child ultimately goes in the custody of ministry of children.

Future is bright.

Muslims in America Reply to # 69 by Yasser Latif Hamdani

Dear Yasser , now you are denouncing your faith and it is such a shame for an Ahmadi like me that Ahmadies always lie about their faith and their commitment to Pakistan.

I am witness to this fact that most of the Ahmadies who take part in internet discussions pretend that they are no more Ahmadies.

Most of the Ahmadies have fake hindu IDs and they are dreaming that Pakistan and India will destroy each other one day.

As fifth columnists Ahmadies are trying their best to provoke West about threats of Mullahization,where as our Jamaat has opened huge new factories ( Jamia Ahmadiyyas ) of Ahmadi Mullahs in Rabwah and Europe.

There are reports that some Ahmadi agent women entered Jamia Hafsa and some Ahmadies entered circles of crazy Musharraf.

They provoked both parties in such a way , which ended up in that never ending vicious cycle of blood shed and which polarized Pakistani society.

I am also witness to such techniques of Jamaat Ahmadiyya when they were sending highly trained spies to the Jalsas of Khatme nubuwat in Chiniot ( River Chenab ).

Those Ahmadi spies were pretending to be pious Sunni mullahs , they were praying and eating with Sunnis and they were causing drifts, divisions and fears among Sunni Mullahs.

We never know which Sunni mullah is a hidden Ahmadi and we never know who is on the payroll of Jammat Ahmadiyya.

Ahmadi agents are every where and Ahmadiyya money is working every where.

Muslims in America Simple people of Pakistan are deceived in so many ways..Like

Yasser Latif is " Pakistani " also and " Hamdani " also ..

Yasser Latif is Muslim also and Westernized Ahmadi also..

Syed Yousaf Raza is Gillani also and Pakistani also..

Yousaf Raza is a Muslim also and Westernized Pir also

Dawn is a Muslim newspaper also and publish anti muslim crap of Cowasjee also..

Dawn staff pretend to be Muslim also but instigate and provoke Westerners against Muslims also

Musharraf is a zani womanizer, Sharabi alcoholic , a dog lover also and a Muslim head of a Muslim country also

Can we say that People of Pakistan are deceivers also and deceived also .. ??

Freud and Jung and Their Secret Affairs Reply to # 51 0f Dr Sohail,

Dr Sohail,

I would not recognize Freud as a Jew , as orthodox Jews and Eastern Christians don't agree with his approach and they also don't agree with " un-paid prostitution " kind of things, which so called greedy European settler Jews brought to Israel.

Maximum, we can call Freud as a " Munafiq " Jew .

Like most of the European thinkers, Freud was probably not aware of the Eastern concept of " Haya " , modesty and his writings and activities revolved around his own culture.

In English we don't have proper word for " Haya ", the closest word probably , is modesty.

I hope as you grew up in the lap of an Eastern mother , hence you may know about concepts of " Sharam , Parda and Haya " .

After reading your articles , I believe you can be a Freud of Pakistan and you can incorporate Eastern concepts of " haya " , " Sharam " and " Parda " in the modern science of Psychology and Psycho- analysis.

Freud and Jung and Their Secret Affairs Thank you Dr Sohail for sharing this wonderful Knowledge with us.

Our Khalifa 2 ( Founder of Nizam e Jamaat Ahmadiyya ) studied Freud and Psychology and he, his sons and his Nizaam became the strongest Pirs of Pakistan.

Now after reading your article , I can do my psycho analysis and I can a bit better understand Pakistani Pirs and their tactics .

You cannot imagine about the psycholgical tricks of our Jamaat e Ahmadiyya.

They are habitual liars , dramatists , actors,black mailers, whiners, 5th columnists , worst torturers ,money worshipers and brutal murderers .

You cannot imagine about the grip and control they have over my life and how much damage, pain and suffering they have caused to Mureeds and followers like me.

When it comes to oppression, blood sucking and cold blooded murders then Pirs of Jhang , Pirs of Multan , Pirs of Rabwah and Pirs of Islamabad become one.

" ibn e Mariam huwa karay koi
meray dard ki dawa karay koi "

The Cruel Expulsions Paradox,

It is way more than pantax cameras of Khalifa 4 .

When he died he left expensive moveable and immovable properties in London and all over the world for his daughters and family.

When he was a young student in London then he bought a car , and he had residence in UK and he travelled across Europe and had parties and socialized with lot of people and left London without passing any Exam etc.

London is an extremely expensive city, how could he afford to live like that.

Even today Mirza family's children study in Aitchison college of Lahore , Oxford and Cambridge etc,..and Khalifa is paying their expenses from Chanda money ..

Even it is their family money still , in the beginning they took huge amounts of chanda money as interest free loans " Qarz e Hasna " and invested it in real estate and stock market etc.

Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis Elite and filthy rich leadership of our jamaat e Ahmadiyya want preferential treatment all over the world.

Actually they are the one who attack , blackmail and ridicule simple muslims of this world for not accepting their version of Islam and for not paying 10 percent to them.

Our Jamaat e Ahmadiyya has lot of land and resources in Africa, why don't they go there and create an Ahmadiyya welfare state.

Why is our jamaat Ahmadiyya dying and doing all this propaganda to get settled in ultra rich but alien cultures of Europe and North America. .??

Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis Following is one wonderful and intelligent response, which knowledgable izuber wrote in " Twenty three students expelled "

Being an insider born Ahmadi I agree with the point of view of izuber

izuber wrote ,


"Adopt a dont ask dont tell policy, no one asks you if you are a Qadiani or not until YOU provoke.
Qadianis brought this upon themselves when they stopped the train filled with students and demonstrated their terrorist acts at a time when Pakistan was much more safer and better.
You Qadianis brought upon yourself.
If you live like people then you would be treated like people but once you began to demonstrate your Qadianiat on the streets and in public you will be curbed.
Take it or leave it but this is what Qadianis have qualified themselves for since the attack on students traveling by train and passing through Rabwa.
As long as you are able to maintain yourselves within prescribed limits you have no problems so mind yourself instead of blaming others for the problems you created yourself. If you were to live in Vatican and started a new congregation of Catholic Christians you will face the same.
Continue crying bloody murder and keep seeking asylum to UK, USA & Canada. "

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad Abuabdullah

You stink .

Your superficial arrogance is basically hinting towards your deep underlying inferiority complex.

You always use cheap Punjabi style personal attacks that people are jealous of your ugly face which is showing cheapness and meanness of a charity / chanda eating , sadqa eating creature.

When you say that people are jealous with you then you are projecting your own hatred and jealousy on them.

People even don't know a little mortal creature like you and no body cares in which hole you breath , but in your delusional fantasy world you are some Royal chap of UK, and whole of the world of 6 billion people are jealous with you.

Twenty Three Students Expelled From Punjab Medical College, Faisalabad # 677 izuber

Very Intelligent reply sir.

I sincerely believe that if government of Pakistan do honest audit of this gang of thugs then half of the Ahmadies will leave them in one day.

I am bringing this in your kind notice that I am pasting your this reply in " Restoring the civil Rights of Ahmadies " also.

Regards,

Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis Majumdar Sahib,

It is all ego war and " masti " of Ahmadi Pirs and Non Ahmadi Pirs of Pakistan

Owners of Ahmadiyya Charity and Ahmadi land lords are not giving respect, rights or basic human dignity to ordinary Ahmadi Mureeds like me .

Bigger Land lords or bigger Pirs of Pakistan are not giving due share or rights to ordinary Ahmadi or Sunni Mureeds of God gifted territory known as Pakistan..

Rich Ahmadies can either fly to Europe or socialize and drink among elite of Islamabad , Lahore and Karachi..or London ,,as money and wealth has no religion and no frontiers

When it comes to oppression and blood sucking then Ahmadi Pirs and Sunni Pirs of Pakistan become one.

Restoring the Civil Rights of Ahmadis If we go to Sind, then we observe extremely vicious treatment ,which " harees " , Peasants or tenants receive at the " Jagirs ", God gifted Lands and territories of Muslim Pirs etc.

Same 2 dollar daily wage slave kind of treatment we observe at the lands of Mirzas and chosen Clergymen of Ahmadiyya Jamaat.

Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat is registered as a non profit charity and first requirment of law is that Charity will not take part in politics.

2nd important requirment is that the Chief executive , The Khalifa will be elected by board of governors instead of Allah.

3rd and the most important requirment is that all financial activities will have to be audited and all members of the Charity and all tax paying citizens of that country will receive detailed information about money received and expenditures of that charity.

Such audit should take place every year and it is legal responsibility of such charity to publish audit report and distribute among tax payers of that country.

The Cruel Expulsions We totally condemn one sided expulsion decisions, however it looks like that management of PMC saved lives of bully Ahmadi students by expelling them for the time being.

Government did a god job , and vacated hostels from bullies of Jamaat e Islami and appeased anger of law less mob mentality of that black mailing society, of which Ahmadies are also an integral part.

Let us not talk too much about puppets here, let us focus on the master minds behind all these games and dramas.

Pirs and owners of Pakistan are like snakes

Owners of Ahmadiyya charity are among big fat land owning and chanda collecting cobras of Pak Land

Don't go for the smooth skin of snakes

Ask us , ask the bitten Ahmadies who are ruined by them,

They will gather confidential information about their subjects , their mureeds, their daughters , our sisters , our wives and any body who has access to their offices will have access to that information,

Gossips in offices are favourite pastime and ordinary Ahmadies are rediculed by the chosen ones..

If you protest , they will injur you with the most injurious words, and then they will slap you or spit on your face and ask you to go away from the holy city of Rabwah..

If you don't, then Ahmadi " Volunteers " , the street thugs , future aspirants of London " Rishtas " or Germany Visas will deal with you with their fists and with their sticks..

They will put arsenic of bitter words and real arsenic in the veins of any awakened dissenting Ahmadi..

If those wretched souls will go to the police station, then the reply they get is that Pakistani jurisprudence doesn't apply on Ahmadies and police station staff will use the derogatory term " Mirzai " for the oppressed Mureed and instruct the staff to contact benevolent Mirza Sahib and tell him about such Mureed..??

During 1974 assembly session , after long debates it was established from Ahmadiyya literature that Ahmadiyya leadership consider all other Muslims as infidel Kafirs.

There was no option left for the parliament to either accept Ahmadies as owners of Muslim Pakistan or declare them non Muslims.

That decision was just a cosmetic decision to appease bully Mullahs and we Ahmadies could still consider ourselves as Muslims ,..

Even today, we observe Army colonels coming to Ahmadiyya mosques for Juma Prayers in their uniforms and in their Military Jeeps.

People of Pakistan are simple and vulnerable, hence big bullies like Tablighi Jamaat , Jamaat Islami and Jamaat Ahmadiyya try to get new converts and new recruits..

In Pakistani Campuses, Ahmadies live like gangs and they always try to have separate special residences and special treatments.

Otherwise they blackmail that government of Pakistan will be humiliated , defamed and blamed through atheist or liberal well wishers and global friends of Ahmadiyya community.

Such people support Jamaat e Ahmadiyya just because of the hate of " Muslim Mullah " , as Muslim Mullah always objected to their liberal free trade plans for the vulnerable communities of this world.

If we go to Sind, then we observe extremely vicious treatment ,which " harees " , Peasants or tenants receive at the " Jagirs ", God gifted Lands and territories of Muslim Pirs etc.

Same 2 dollar daily wage slave kind of treatment we observe at the lands of Mirzas and chosen Clergymen of Ahmadiyya Jamaat.

Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat is registered as a non profit charity and first requirment of law is that Charity will not take part in politics.

2nd important requirment is that the Chief executive , The Khalifa will be elected by board of governors instead of Allah.

3rd and the most important requirment is that all financial activities will have to be audited and all memebers of the Charity and all tax paying citizens of that country will receive detailed information about money received and expenditures of that charity.