Forgotten President & Shape of Things to Come? bulleya,

Between the line subtext of #166 is fear of IEDs and RDXs in cities of Punjab and Karachi. The war is already lost in mind because of fear. Pakistan does not have will for the fight. In 71 punjab and Karachi were insulated from the Mukti Wahini and Indian forces.

Putin's Russia and the PRC have despite the ummah, managed to crush the islamists in Chechnya and Xinjiang.

Another big factor - Pakistani taliban is irregualar non-khaki Pakistani army. India needs to make sure that Indian Muslims do not get talibanized.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation There is no point in discussion. Against plate pissers what works is Danda. Putin's Russia and the PRC have despite the ummah, managed to crush the islamists in Chechnya and Xinjiang

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Muradbhai,

Islamist come in many shades. The deadly one is the one who is non-precticing, eg Draculla, Qayde Azam. Islam stands for Imperialim.

Until you tell us more about how you raised / are raising your kids, your essays are merely talk of what flavour of ice cream you like, what decor you like in Janana and which restaurant's buryani you like. All those things are nice to know but not useful to humanity.

Your words on Bramhinism or Sanatan Dharma is only rhetoric played to the gallery of bullshitters like you.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Middle finger to God/Truth,

Truth is god for me. When you do not face and accept, I feel you are not golden finger but showing middle finger to the truth/god.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation PM,

"Pappu bhai, surely the value of a 1,400 year old system and culture must be judged on more than "its" performance in a mere decade??"

The decade is easy to tackle in terms of physical evidences and we dont have to rely on some king's Nama. Abrahmic religions are merely legions for exploitation, slavery and imperialism. Instead of some relying on history written by paid writers, I would rather backtrack for present reality. Is there a Muslim democracy? It's even dificult to have democracy where there is staunch Catholicism.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Muradbhai,

Your post 915 is like 8/11/47 speech of the draculla. Lot of nice sounding empty words! Draculla sucked the blood of millons and because of him common Pakistani poor Abdul is still suffering and rich Ahmed is selling his mother.

Instead of this std X essay, would you please answer the questions I asked, so that we would know you are not yet another plate pissser Islamist. Tell us more about how you raised your kids so that they turn out into the rootless/cultureless draculla or Pandher of Noida. Tomorrow even Pandher from Stephen College can come and give us lecture on beef/port eating, architecure, human anatomy and secularism. Tell us more about progressive actions you have taken to treat your wife equally, to reach out to the majority of the land and contributed to enlihtenment of te majority or your wife's community. Did you conduct science fair at your wife's native village on the day of Dassahara or Ganesh Chaturthi?

"All the professional priests also dissuaded their followers from music and art and in enjoying themselves instead of spending time at their places of worship. Even Coffee houses were banned in Europe."

Make a small correction "proiests" to "priests of Abrahmic religions". Indian music, dance, painting, sculpture and drama is originated in temple. http://www.nadsadhna.com/originofindianmusic.html
http://www.hss.iitb.ac.in/cou rses/HS450/notes2.htm

Tell us more about your "worship", hope it's not war-ship against the native culture and plain old plate pissing.

Rest of your post is full pf too many "I" wale sentences. Are you some shehenshah?

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Middle finger to God,

An individual did a crime and getting punishment for it. What does it have to with their ethnicity? Answer this question:

Followers of which religion/dharma/ism/faith have have killed/harmed innocent people of other faith at the place of their worship, in last decade?

Do you see Islam in the mirror?

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Muradbhai, Have not heard from you! Take your sweet time. Do not forget to do the readings which Ladduji asked.

Ladduji, I feel one needs to practice an ism for considerable amount of time and talk from personal experience. Dharma is something to be lived and not talked about. There are not Ek Dukka but many who indulge in meaningless circular arguments. It's shear intellectual diarrihea. What do you think? It's the One God Abrahmic religion stupid! Real bane to this beautiful world!

==========Muradbhai==================
"But please note that though I have a Muslim name I am a non practicing Muslim who does not believe in any religion."

We can not see what you practice in your mind or not. What you practice will show up in your action. I googled for your articles on this CMS, DostMitra told that you are married to a Hindu lady practicing or nonpracticing. We would know a lot about you if you answer following:

1. Did you or your wife decide to change her name to a Islamic one? Does she carry your last name? We know you are not carrying her last name.

2. What are the names of your kids? Which schools do they attend to. Do they attend Hindi medium schools where Indian culture is taught? Indian culture means Hindustani Music, Dances such as Bharat Natyam etc. Are they learning Sanskrit? Taken some effort to learn Vedic Maths? Do they regualrly visit Indian temples and historical places, even pilgrimage places suchas Prayag, Nasik (Trayambekeshwar), Rameshwar etc.? Do they participate in local Ganesh Puja, Durga Puja and ShivJayanti? Are they passionate about stopping pollution of Ganga? Can they sing Kabirs dohes?

Answers to these questons will give us an idea about where you come from. We do not want yet another foreigner tell us who we are when his own community is way below us in most of the indices of human development.

No malice intended!



"The same goes for ISLAM. I try to never speak of Islamic architcture, art, scripts, culture or atrocities because these were not the creations of the religion but the good and bad activities of numerous people like the Arabs, Persians, Mongols, Afghans Turks, etc."

Since you claim to be historian, do you know who were the architect of TajMahal (TejoMahal), so called Qutub Minar? Is it realistically possible for taliaban if it ever conquered midwest of USA to build Sears Towers. You will have to find how it was funded by Sears and Roebock company and the chief structural engineer of the architectural firm was a Bengali Muslim. You should also study how these monuments for deads made living peasants and workers poor. Vain Rajputs and Mughals did not see what was happening in europe at that time. May be Mughals still thought that they were foreigners in this land, and had no intention of being protector of culture of this land and well being of all citizens.
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"The same can be said for Divali, Holi, Naoroz, Passover, etc. Many were honest celebrtations of spring and autumn harvests and the religious fairy tales are unnecessary."

On the first day of Diwali Narkasur was killed. When kids get up early at 4 AM and before taking bath (given by the parents) they crush with their feet symbolic Naraksur, once ego, jealosy and other mental traits which can make a family disfunctional. What is harm in such a ritual? It's not stepping on someone else rights and freedom. If you complain about pollution of all kinds due to fire crackers then you have a point. Have you done something about it?
There are similar events (may be mythical to you) with Holy, Dassahara and Muharram.
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"But raking the old ashes in the present time to forment more sectarian strife is deplorable. "

But not raking the old ashes in the present time so that equal-eaual can be done between religions and dharmas to make people rootless and cultureless is a crime against humanity. It is Mao style destruction of culture. Keep it in mind that India is democracy not because of JN or JNU but because of Dharmic mooring of the Indian culture.
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"I also hate the mythification of all the prophets, apostles, saints, sages, sacred dreams, etc., that have distorted the words of the founders in all religions."

What you call myths is Itihaas for us. It wets our hearts so that we can be rooted in culture. Culture is fluid. Dry intellectualization can create monsters such as effery dahmer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer and culture destroyers and brain eaters such as Romilla. In your own neck of the woods, a Bishop Cotton school graduate, Pandher, turns into a serial murderer because of rootless-ness and cultureless-ness. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moninder_Singh_Pandher

The real meaning of the word will get freshly revealed to you when you become wordless.
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#841 Posted by pappu on June 30, 2008 5:45:02 am
Muradbhai,

"The practitioners of all religions did many violent and evil things in the holy name of their gods. "

All or some! Violent and evil things were done by Abrahmic religions except Judaism. You are right, Dharmas are not religions! Sanatan Dharma, Bouddha Dharma, Jaina Dharma and Sikh Dharma have not done violent and evil things in the holy name of their gods. Except in recent past Bhindranwale gave bad name to Sikh Dharma by his karnames.

Whom you might be calling ugly duckling among the ducklings of religions is actually a Dharma of a swan type.
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#840 Posted by pappu on June 30, 2008 5:34:47 am
Muradbhai,

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Thanks Ladduji! Quite a bit of reading and digesting to do!

Would it be a good idea to ahve a glossary of Sanskrit and Sanatan Dharma terms for newbie?

I think you can also develop a quiz to test ones understanding.

Our brother Muradbhai need to score more than 95% to be eligible to write an article on mythical manufactured at JNU Bramhinism and Sanatan Dharma.

Otherwise, any Tom, Dilwar and Hari will write because of his connections of old Doon boys network. We also need to have a way to reject guys like Pandher who might come here to write and post.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Ladduji,

Would you please tell what one has to do to develop those 4.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Thanks Ladduji!

How can we help our brother Muradbhai and Uncle Tahirji? Muradbhai thinks God speaks only in Doon Convent English and Uncleji thinks he speaks in Bedouin Arabic. Are there good trnsaltions of Shankara's work for them?

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation 1. Viveka : The capacity to discriminate between the permanent and the impermanant.
2. Vairagya : Dispassion to the enjoyments of the fruits of one's actions, here or hereafter.
3. Six qualities like Sama etc.
4. Yearning for liberation.

These are little more practical and easier. I got scard by the earlier ones.

Ladduji & Muradbhai,

Muradbhai you might be much better qualified compared to me in satisfying these requirements. So dont get disheartened!

I have a strong weakness. I fall in love with every woman I encounter. Nothing Lustful like Clinton but still serious for my financial health. My friends, wife and employees try to protect me from financial harm by screening the new females I might encounter and watching moves of the female around me. I just like the smell of their palloos, music in their voice. The spark in the eyes is really very captivating. I become a lamb in front of them. Ladduji, am I hopeless? I fall in love with any one from new born to hundred year old. They all look like bhagwati.

Hey Tahir Uncleji, your Allah can approach me in female form. I will be servant of her for life. Is that idalotory?

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation tahir uncle, u are converting a converted one. Why do u think i am not muslim? Would be please give Islam a Indic/Sanskrit name? Please give me a Koran in Hindi. I am a slow reader and hates to read. I like Namaz though because it's action oriented. I am little fast sporty one, multitasker and intense person.

I like to be a girl in the nest life looking at easy life of my wife and other female friends. They reach to my purse very easily with motherly caressing of my head. trust me on the day of Kayamat I waont be farther from you ... it might hurt you ... but search for me ahead of you in the queue for Jannat.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Gabdhi was great and had masses with him because he walked the talk. Muradbhai are you walking the talk?

I bet given an opportunity even the Bishop Cotton school graduate, Pandher, will write a piece deriding bramhinism in flawless fluent English. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moninder_Singh_Pandher

The biggest difference between the leadership of Pakistan, and the leaders of India is that there was none on Pakistan side who walked the talk, including Jinnah. India was fortunate to have few Gandhians, Patelians and Malviyajians.

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation Muradbhai,

How we behave when no one is watching creates the credibility. Tell us wheter your wife has Arabic/Persian name. Do your kids carry Arabic/Persian names? Do they celebrate Diwali, Dassara and Holi with same gusto as Muharram? Do they attend temples, reach out to Swamis and Gurus? Did they learn Sanskrit?

The \'One God\' Religions of Revelation "Frankly I am impressed with your experiments with other religions. "

They were not experiments with other religions, just went along with nice folks. Our whole family has done Vipassana Buddhist meditation 10 day course at least 3 times each.

Muradbahi, I am telling this to find some commonality and so you do not feel ...