Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth Pakistanis form NWFP, FATA FUT change your allegiance. You are soon to be part of Talibani Afghanistan
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008�6\28\story_28-6-20 08 _pg3_6

"Now, it is perhaps time to take the bull by the horns and rekindle that taboo whisper — the unthinkable — to strengthen the Pakistani government’s bargaining position!

During negotiations with these insurgent tribes, the Pakistani government could suggest something like this: ‘since you (the tribes) feel compelled to support your Afghan brethren in their struggle for freedom from the invaders and, in doing so, not only provide a safe haven to foreigners but cross the border to fight American forces, the Pakistan government, despite its sympathy for you, cannot protect you against foreign aggression which is obviously undertaken in retaliation to your actions.

‘Therefore, if you feel compelled to fight in Afghanistan, we offer to liberate you from your allegiance to Pakistan and permit you to become citizens of Afghanistan; Pakistani security forces will be pulled out of your area and will be located at the beginning of your tribal belt. We can however, promise that if, on the other hand, you cease to provide a safe haven to foreigners and desist from your cross border incursions, Pakistani forces will protect you against any foreign aggression, including American forces, and assure you equal citizenship’.

It will take great political determination to make such an offer and mean it. But if made, the vast and silent majority of these tribes is more than likely to find its voice, contest the militants, and reach an amicable decision to retain all the perks that the Pakistani government provides to its tribal citizens."

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth Mutloobi,

Some on ehear mentioned that after NWFP, Taliban will conquer whole of Pakistan and then attack India to rule over it from Delhi. That is why Indians need to peek into Pakistani so no more Punga happens in Punjab or Kashmir.

Pakistan and political Islam as a religion is a threat to the survival of human race.

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth Mad-ani,

Pakistan Ka Mutlab Kya? How can you ban Muslim organizations when Pakistan is created for Muslim by sacrificing 1 million innocents and half a million rapes of women. Do you hink some thing wrong with Islam, the idealogy? It divides people. It makes people racist (look at your posts on white skin) and be subservient to the foreign powers such as Saudi Arabia and America.

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth Matloobi,

That is the point. The esteemed profesor writer forgot to tell that UP PAC was in "secular" congress hand at that time in 80s whe Meerut riot happened. He does not tell who were the instigators of that riot, and why PAC picked up those Muslim youths or goondas. Instead of that he goes on his diatribe on RSS, Nathuram and some fictious pariwar. Author tries to shed some crocodile's tears on Gandhi murder.

All above is being done when 22 Christians are picked up in Peshawar by Taliban recently, Shia clerics and followers are murdered daily all over Pakistan and innocent Hindu girls are being kidnapped for conversion and forced marriages. Truely incredible! Keep your self busy in looking over the compound to find some shit when your place is on fire and has no place even to squat to relieve yourself.

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth Look at what Pakistanis are writing, talking and reading. Incredible! They are publishing 15 year old article of some one of no consequence or influence about India, when their own home is on fire.

http://dawn.com/2008/06/28/op.htm

May be Pakistanis are not worried since common Abdul is already a Talib.

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008�6\28\story_28-6-2008_pg1_15

fo r your eyes

Forgotten President & Shape of Things to Come? Taliban is not a tiger. To bully a weak is Muslim trait. Taliban will conquer Pakistan because there is not going to be a fight. If India whacks Pakistani butt hard, it does not matter who is ruling Pakistani hayenas will return to its cave. What Pakistan needs is merciless pounding. What do you think Mr. Mad-ani?

The Brain Food Mad-ani,

"Big animal eating creatures go big like above two and small like shasty and mukharji feeding on fish and rice."

Elephant and rhinoes eat grass but pakistanis and hayenas eat carcasses. Stinking carcasses are thrown at Pakistanis by the drug cartels, China and USA. What do you think?

Moreover is size that important? Remember Gurkhas and other tiny Indians making your 97000 biggies do day long PT on Dacca ground.

"Generally meat eaters are white colored compared grass eaters and plant eaters. India people and pakistani people are stark reminder in this matter."

Hayenas and most of the Pakis are not. How about Africans, you racist pig? Dara Singh, Chandgi Ram and Carl Lewis are vegetarian.

Forgotten President & Shape of Things to Come? ahmedmadani,

Why do you think Taliban is different from Pakistan's army? The uniform might be different, but sipahi Abdul has Khaki in the day time and whatever Taliban wearin the night? Indians might be rejoicing looming hanging on the lamp-post of strategic depth and thousand cut walas, who are the cause of thousands of murders of innocent Indian civilians and martyrdoms of Indian soldiers.

Taliban and Al Quida once in power in Pakistan will make it a pariah state. It will be denuked by security council resolution. Nuisance value of Pakistan is more when it is not pariah.

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth Changing priorities
By Geeta Pandey
BBC News, Srinagar

At a hip cafeteria in central Srinagar groups of young men and women sit around sipping cappuccinos and cafe lattes.

Background music is the Bee Gees and Bryan Adams, the dress code is jeans and T-shirts for men and traditional but elegant salwar kameez for women. There are very few headscarves.

It's a scene which would have been unthinkable in Indian-administered Kashmir a few years ago.

For almost two decades, the region has been in the grip of a violent insurgency by militants opposed to Indian rule and chants of "azaadi", or freedom, were the first words one heard on arrival.

Today, the word "azaadi" is still part of some people's lexicon, but with many young Kashmiris it comes out only after some probing.

"In our college, the most discussed issue is personal life. Students talk about their boyfriends and girlfriends, their love trouble," says Ibrahim Wani, a biochemistry student at Sri Pratap College.

"The number two topic of discussion is education, career, employment opportunities. Then we share our concern for the environment. The fight for Kashmir's freedom or where the separatist movement is headed is last on the list," he says.

A stroll through Srinagar University's walkways, shaded by centuries-old chinar (plane) trees, shows the shift in the priorities of the young in Kashmir.

The clamour here is for well-paying jobs, better infrastructure, women's rights and peace.

"India is doing very well economically. In the past few years, the country has progressed well. Since we are part of India, we too have a bright future," says commerce student Mudassar Hussain, who is 21.

A job fair was held on the campus recently and Hussain was among the 400 students who were offered places by various firms.

"The situation is much better in Kashmir now. The killings and blasts which characterised the 1990s and the first few years of this decade have reduced considerably," says Salfia, 22, who is studying to become a lawyer.

"In the far-flung rural areas, there are still large numbers of troops and the situation is sometimes grim, but in Srinagar we feel happy now," she says.

"We are fed up of the India-Pakistan stories. The youth is not interested in the movement any more."

Hussain says the days when young people answered the call to arms are over.

"People are more sensible now. Today no one can drag us away and convince us to be a militant. We have to think for ourselves, not follow [separatist leader Syed Ali Shah] Geelani or some other leader."

Ibrahim, Hussain and Salfia all belong to that generation which was just taking baby steps when militancy blew up in Kashmir. Violence, strikes and protests have been part of their growing daily life.

But today when Kashmir is enjoying relative calm, the young think they can hope for a better future.

"We're not interested in going back down that route [of militancy] again. We need to move ahead, we want a normal life. We want peace," says Saima Farhad, an assistant professor at Kashmir University.

"When we go out of Kashmir, to other parts of India and to other countries, we wonder what we have done with ourselves? We realise we're destroying ourselves," she says.

Five years ago, after the state assembly elections, the regional People's Democratic Party (PDP) and the Congress party formed a coalition government. Since then, the situation in the troubled valley has been gradually, but steadily, improving.

And the withdrawal of despised counter-insurgency personnel has definitely helped ease the situation.

Also, with the Taleban (who provided support to the separatist movement) under pressure in Pakistan and Afghanistan and improved relations between India and Pakistan, there has been a dramatic improvement in the security situation.

"In the first five months of 2007, there were 27 incidents of violence in which several people were killed. This year, in the same period, there have been only three incidents and none were major," says inspector general of Kashmir police, SM Sahai.

Today, the streets of Srinagar are buzzing - shops are open until late at night, tourists who shunned the picturesque valley for many years are now back in their hundreds of thousands, and morale is high.

But, says senior separatist leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani the changes are "superficial".

Syed Ali Shah Geelani says the fight goes on

"If all is well here, then how come we still have the Disturbed Areas' Act in place? Why does the army still enjoy special powers? The army says there are only 2,000 militants left, then why do they need 800,000 soldiers to fight them?"

He admits that a large number of youth have moved away from the separatist movement.

"Our youth are being led astray by India, our students are being taken out of Kashmir on education tours and they are being mislead. We are being subjected to cultural aggression."

But, Mr Geelani says he is confident that the movement for Kashmir's independence will survive.

"People's priorities may change from time to time, but there's no change in our basic stand which is the fight for freedom," he says.

Another separatist leader, Shabir Shah, says the present situation can perhaps best be described as a lull before the storm.

"To say that militancy and the Kashmiri's desire for independence is over is a mistake," he says.

"If the government of India makes one mistake, the people of India will have to pay for it."

In recent days, Kashmir has erupted again with angry protests against plans to build facilities for Hindu pilgrims in the mainly Muslim state.

This, say some, shows how fragile the peace is. It needs just a spark to set the place on fire again.

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth Learned and Highly Paid Consultants,

Seriously, answer these questions:
f NWFP falls to Taliban, which state would be next?

Punjab or Pakistan Occupied Kashmir?

Which state has more Shia population in %?

Will Shias and Ahmedi be driven out? Where will they go?

Is Karach and Sindh a safe heaven for them?

What is the mother tongue and their ethnicity of most of the Shias? Are Ahmedis more Punjabis?

Does Umma have a role to play?

Will Saudi Arabia accept Shias and Ahmedis as a humanitarian good will gesture or put $s to settle them in Michigan or London?

These are the questions you need to brain storm. I am sure smart Pakistanis will come up with right solution and will support financially Saudis in implementing their solution.

Please do not consider solution of throwing these folks over eastern border, procur gas chambers for them or conquering India.

As any other momeen they all would like to be more Arab than Arabs and more white than the whites.

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth Ajeya,

"People who are used to "submitting" can never truly be mentally free."

Do you mean people who are "booked" are not free? It's obvious.

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth hamidm2,

I fergot to tell you that option is not there for you. There is UN security council resolution to that effect.

Is your brain storming or is it stormed out? You are a smart fellow. Dont give up so soon. Is settling te folks in Michigan good idea? You might get few maids to tend your kids. Call your senator and Congressmen. You should start working on the solution on war footing before the shit hits the ceiling.

The Brain Food Senna,

It appears you are brain dead. Now tell me does your mind exist?

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth hamidm2,

Why not Taliban Zindabad? Because are the rising sun or son of the gun. All others are not resident of Pakistan. They just spend few days in Pakistan. Pakistan is truly a globalized state. The rulers come from Dubai, DC, London and New York. They are like Mackenzie consultants. Where from does this Kayani dude come from?

Nawaz Sharif’s Moment of Truth If NWFP falls to Taliban, which state would be next?

Punjab or Pakistan Occupied Kashmir?

Which state has more Shia population in %?

Will Shias and Ahmedi be driven out? Where will they go?

Is Karach and Sindh a safe heaven for them?

What is the mother tongue and their ethnicity of most of the Shias? Are Ahmedis more Punjabis?

Does Umma have a role to play?

Will Saudi Arabia accept Shias and Ahmedis as a humanitarian good will gesture or put $s to settle them in Michigan or London?

These are the questions you need to brain storm. I am sure smart Pakistanis will come up with right solution and will support financially Saudis in implementing their solution.

Please do not consider solution of throwing these folks over eastern border or procur gas chambers for them.

As any other momeen they all would like to be more Arab than Arabs and more white than the whites.