Muslim Ghettoisation tahmed,

""what is so great of being a hindu?"

Simple, it's not a religion!

World has banned slavery, it's high time it bans religion!

Yes to Dharma but big NOO to religion!

Muslim Ghettoisation "
Re: # 233
Aslam...

"bloody horrible hindus are behind a lot of this to malign muslims..."...
Indians have not maligned moslem or Islam. Rather, it has hidden the stink of Islam for long period....If you know the meaning of "bloody" and "horrible", then you should know whom it suits better...

1) Indians never highlighted islamic barbarism to others. Rather tried to hide it for long time. If Indian history of mediaval period is taught with evidences, Western World would have kicked out moslems long back (Europe). Cong led Govt. tries to paint Brits in different color, but circumstancial and material evidence says how islamic barbarism destroyed India. Will Durant's "History of Civilisation" will provides nice insight of Islamic destruction of Northern India....It is the Indians like Romila Thapar, who spreads false history to hide Islamic barbarism in 13th century to 17th century. Destruction of Nalanda University, Somnath Temple, Kashi Viswanath Temple, Mathura Temple, Hampi, Mysore... list is very big. If you retain little bit of human sense (and loose bit of islamic value), you should be ashamed about these activities...

2) Post British period India should have taught Islamic barbarism to world about Direct Action day (great killings in Noahkhali and Calcutta), Khilafat Movement in Kerala (Moplah killings)...Gandhi tried to hide it and so his assiatants post 1951...

3) Jihadi activities in Kashmir and resultant displacement of Kashmiri Pundits....Indians never used this to kill and displace moslems from rest of India...Post partition, the way non-moslems migrated from Sindh and BD to India, the reverse migration is less than 1% of that...

When this problem spread to european heartland and far east (Balkan problem, Chechenya, Thailand, Mynmar, Philipines...Islamic/terrorist activtities by moslems in Germany, France, UK, Australia, Spain) India can not hide it.

Till last year, India was at least providing some good image of Islam...But then you can not suppress stink for long time...Two scoundrels from the beautiful city of Bangalore involved in airport bombing in UK and all falsehood shattered....

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Nkg,

Very concise and fluent! You held the Islamic mirror with no shaking. Now no one can say the image is blurry.


Most of the Indians think our converted brothers and sisters must not allow their Islamic identity override their Indic civilizational identity. Get rid of Arabic imperialism and Indianize Islam. Kar Do Good Bye Chumma to Islamic Umma!

Own this land, its Hindu or Dharmic culture, its languages, its saints (spiritual and social leaders) and celeberate its diversity. You can be Shri. Mandar Multankar, and still be five time Namazi Mulla. Only request is don't go to distant land for Haj. If your neighborhood is not Macca and Madina for you, then you will not find Macca and Madina in some desert land.

Muslim Ghettoisation Pakistan has more or less reversed in practice all that the new government was talking about the way of tackling Islamic militancy: at election time they were emphasising that a purely military approach to fighting Taliban and extremists, such as the Americans insist upon, is unwise. The problem must be addressed by political means, though use of force has to be kept in reserve for sparing use.

The Army chief was entrusted with the task of fighting Islamic extremism as best as he can the other day. That apparently has gladdened the hearts of the Americans who, according to Samuel Hersh of the New Yorker, have three top US secret agencies, along with the US Special Forces and Pakistani intelligence agencies targeting the Taliban leadership inside Waziristan.

Richard Boucher arrived once again in Pakistan for three days on June 30. He will go round meeting all the bigwigs of the state and party leaders. This is apparently the start of what the Americans have wanted: a coordinated military effort by Americans, NATO and Pakistanis. In NWFP’s tribal areas the US National Security Agency, the CIA and Defence Intelligence Agency along with Special Forces and Pakistani intelligence are said to be already active.

The second was the demonstrative military action in Khyber Agency, just outside Peshawar by paramilitary forces.
There was talk of possibly losing even Peshawar because the warlord Haji Mangal Bagh of Khyber Agency had started extorting money and throwing his weight about in Peshawar.

There are now two categories of Pakistani observers: Those who think that Talibanisation of Pakistan is underway and is irreversible and the others say the state has to be firm and act as the Americans advise to contain the Taliban.

The fact is that much of Frontier’s tribal areas are already slipping out of Pakistani control. Prime Minister Gilani frequently asserts that the government will re-establish the writ of the state. Please mark this will.

Names of each warlord-cum-Taliban commanders of an agency are known; it is also known that they are the real governments that are realising taxes through extortion, administering rough justice and providing what security there is.

Look at the typical Taliban commander or warlord. All he has to do is to find a rich patron, probably a narcotics producer with money to help raise a Lashkar even of 70-80 armed people.

He proclaims himself a Taliban commander and, hay presto, he rules. All he has to do is to be ruthless in imposing taxes, administering simple, inexpensive and quick justice to follow the example of Arabian Peninsula’s Middle Ages’ customs. This elicits admiration from simple, gullible Frontier Muslims – indeed the Sunni Muslims of all the subcontinent.

This is now a cottage industry. Once a commander raises a Lashkar, he can extort more money and he becomes the locality’s ruler. What is not prohibited by Taliban Islam is murdering opponents or kidnapping them for ransom.

Recently, Pakistan’s ambassador to Afghanistan was abducted from near Torkhum. He was recovered after several months on payment of a (huge) ransom. Money otherwise is floating around in the Frontier largely because of the flourishing heroin and cannabis trade.

The beneficiaries are probably no more than 500 or so rich individuals. The spread of such Islam is paradoxical for a place where civilisation goes back 6,000 years. Pakistan areas were the first where vedic culture flourished, followed by Buddhist era and later by Islam.

The real vulnerability of Pakistan lies in the proneness of gullible Muslims to admire everything associated with medieval mores of Arabian Peninsula, particularly of Mecca and Medina. What Prophet Muhammad and his companions said and did in accordance with their local traditions elicits now unlimited admiration. The notion is that everyone received just treatment then.

Taliban too impart supposedly honest and ruthless justice quickly and inexpensively. These qualities are greatly admired by the subcontinent’s Muslims who yearn for establishing such an Islamic state, though scholars differ what can it possibly be.

There are local reasons in Pakistan too. For 60 long years Pakistan state has flourished on a hollow and often dishonest rhetoric of Islam. Pakistanis have to pay the wages of 60 years of shallow and deceptive Islamic rhetoric and manipulations by Pakistan’s intelligence outfits: for over 21 years Pakistan has organised a Jihad in which hundreds of thousands of Pushtoon and Frontier people have participated: first in Afghanistan, then in Indian-controlled Kashmir and later again in Afghanistan’s civil war that erupted 1993 onwards.

Taliban conquered Afghanistan for Islam — maybe for Pakistan also. Taliban established an Islamic state that all Deobandi Muslims regarded as authentic Islamic State that must be supported by all. Today in Pakistan’s tribal areas any number of warlords or Taliban commanders are establishing just such Islamic statelets. These are the wages of the 60-year long bogus rhetoric.

Pakistan’s real vulnerability is its people’s admiration for ruthless medieval mores adopted by charlatans today seeking power and pelf. Their game has to be exposed as a first real step to contain them. Otherwise Talibanisation will continue and the more the armies of Pakistan and others kill the ordinary Pushtoons the more militants and radicals will be produced.

Muslim Ghettoisation Most of the Indians think our converted brothers and sisters must not allow their Islamic identity override their Indic civilizational identity. Get rid of Arabic imperialism and Indianize Islam. Kar Do Good Bye Chumma to Islamic Umma!

Own this land, its Hindu or Dharmic culture, its languages, its saints (spiritual and social leaders) and celeberate its diversity. You can be Shri. Mandar Multankar, and still be five time Namazi Mulla. Only request is don't go to distant land for Haj. If your neighborhood is not Macca and Madina for you, then you will not find Macca and Madina in some desert land.

Muslim Ghettoisation Nkg,

Very concise and fluent! You held the Islamic mirror with no shaking. Now no one can say the image is blurry.

Most of the Indians think our converted brothers and sisters do not allow their Islamic identity override all their indic civilizational identities. Get rid of Arabic imperialism and Indianize Islam. Kahe Do Good Bye Chumma to Islamic Umma!

Own this land, its Hindu or Dharmic culture, its languages, its saints (spiritual and social leaders) and celebrate its diversity. You can be Shri. Mandar Multankar and still be five time Namazi Mulla, only request is don't go to distant land for Haj. If your neighborhood is not Macca and madina then you will not find it in some desert land.

Amen!

Muslim Ghettoisation Islam is peace, but for the world peace, let Islam parmanently rest in peace!

Muslim Ghettoisation http://in.rediff.com/news/2008/jul/04bsp.htm

He says he came just a year ago. His family was close to Nawaz Sharif's people, he claims, and due to that factor alone, business had suffered quite a lot in Lahore. "So, how did you manage to get entry into America?" I ask. "Bahut mushkil se mila," he replies and tells me the story of his getting political asylum.

He had first come under a tourist visa, having paid a hefty amount to an agent for the visa facilitation. Having arrived in America he had the good fortune to get the right Jewish lawyer with a specialisation on asylum cases from Pakistan.

The lawyer arranged a medical examination to show the bruises that Rafiq had received from the treatment in the police station; he then got a testimony from a famous Pakistani political analyst at an American university -- and here Khan mentions a name that I recognise -- who charged $3,000 to testify how Nawaz Sharif loyalists had suffered under the previous regime in Punjab, and finally Rafiq himself had satisfied the judges about his knowledge and credentials.

The judge had cross-examined him to test whether he was a political activist or a fake and Rafiq was certainly more knowledgeable than the judge about the intricacies of South Asian politics. He was lucky, he says, mainly in finding the right lawyer. But after all this, now, his party has won. Will he be sent back? He is deeply worried. "Democracy to accha hi hai, phir bhi apna sochna padta hai," he says as I pay him and leave.

Muslim Ghettoisation There are other laws as well:

Law of Identity

Law of Fanaticism of Recent Converts

Law of Abdulization of poor and Ahmedification of Rich who will sell their mothers to whites

It's not that simple. Some one here was saying Islam is simple. Islam may be simple but Islamification is weird and complex. It slowly takes away all your identities and implants Arab identity stronger than the native Arabs themselves.

A good sample is Mulla Mandar multankar with red hot lipstick and pink maskara.

Muslim Ghettoisation Mulla Mandarji,

If you want to fight west and US in particular why dont you move to Macca and Madina and have your fight there. Leave poor paki Abdul alone. He is much wiser than you fool with pink maskara.

Muslim Ghettoisation Re: # 224 Mulla Mandar Multankar with red hot lipstick,

"I didn't chop of history, you did regarding the colonial partition of India and the perpetrators of the Bangali Killing"

What about colonial partition, Mullaji with pink maskara? Mullaji isn't the fact that the only action Islamist like you ever did was the Day of Action in Naukhali and Kolkata, against innocent Hindus, and that you guys never raised even your little finger against colonists?

3 million might be underestimate because the media reporting was Time and newsweek which were siding you guys. Hindus interefered only when 10M refugees came to India, some of the women with stories of horrendous brutality such as gang rape, cutting of breasts and mutiliation of sexual organs.

Face it Mulla Red Lipstick, it is Islam stupid! If its followers are so brutal and barbaric then ther must be something in the Koran to make them that way.

Muslim Ghettoisation Re: # 213 Mulla Mandarji,

"Thus far over a million have been butchered in Iraq, 2 million or more in Vietnam, all the so called religo-ethnic violence you cite in Iraq was caused by the US invasion, not before, most of it is contrived."

How about Pakistani butchering 3 Million in Bangladesh? Why do you "chop off" history? Sewctarian violence in Pakistan is also caused by US, Mullaji with pink Maskara?

Muslims in America Tahir, Murad and Mulla Mandarji

Would you guess who sung the song under, and in what century? We do not need to learn morality from those whose actions have been exactly opposite. We love you as brothers and sisters, but when you make our survival difficult, and you try to enslave us robbing our identity, culture and pride, let God give us strength in killing you. This is also a prayer and a meditation. Indians have come to this point. We do not want to fight your fight against west on our lands. You can fight them in the land of Macca and Madina.

Now, may the Lord of the Universe be pleased by this sacrificial speech, and thus pleased bestow this blessing.

May the crookedness of the wicked end, and may they grow a liking for virtue.
May the creatures be cordial friends among themselves.

May the darkness of evil vanish, and may the sun of truthful conduct dawn.
May the creatures receive what they wish for.

May the creatures constantly meet communities of the Lord's worshippers, who are ever showering bliss.

Like gardens of wandering wish-fulfilling trees,or like villages of wish-fulfilling gems, or like oceans of nectarine speech,

Akin to blemishless moons, or suns without the burning heat, may these worshippers of truth be liked by all forever.

What more need be said? May all the three worlds become filled completely with bliss, and worship the Primal Lord uninterruptedly.

And O Lord! especially on this earth, may those who cherish this scripture as their very life force, be victorious over the seen and the unseen fruits of action.

Then, the Lord of the Universe, in the form of my Guru, said 'your offering shall be blessed'. By this blessing this bhakta attained beatitude.

Anti-Americanism in Pakistan and the Taliban Menace Re: # 95 tahir,
http://books.google.com/books?id=gVwBAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA238&lpg=PA2 38&dq=ramushi+caste&source=web&ots=8XDpZIVz4q&sig=H5agfPzUr7y0Ls Us4zrebZ5d4y8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result

Muslim Ghettoisation Pakistanis,

Beirutization or more accrately Kabulization of Islamabad has started. Mulla Mandar Multankar does not know that he will be the first one to be hanged from the lamp post because of his pink maskara. Plans for evacuation of ambessies

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=15823
By Ikram Hoti

ISLAMABAD: Important diplomatic missions in Islamabad, especially the US and the British missions, are discussing with Pakistani authorities new security plans which, according to sources, could include logistics of emergency evacuation, if at all needed.

Muslim Ghettoisation Re: # 180

Boys are raised by the society and daughters by the family.

Muslim Ghettoisation Re: # 165 Mike,

Ghetoization suppsedly happens for preserving the identity. For Marathi or Pune muslim which identity is the most important? Muslim? That is also fine. You can make it the most important by doing five times Namaz, reading and contempalting on Koran. Why do you have to crush all other identities? Real understanding of Koran and meditation of Namaz will make you understand that Islamic identity is like a game, not eternal but temporal. You play it as per its rules but the rules need to be for the internal being and mind organs. Why do you have to change your name to Arabic names? Why Mullah Mandar Multankar needs to become Mohammed Asadi? Why western Hare Krishna folks need to have a choti and dhoti? If it is easy to dance, then they should wear only Langoti.