Pakistan’s Prevailing Political And Economic Mess #9 Posted by tahir on July 17, 2008 5:12:25 am

yeah pal...poor muslims are victims...

it was the jews..the 4000 jews that I'm sure you believe were missing from the WTC on 9/11...


Can't you see the rise of the East and the emeinent fall of the decadent West?


yup...another islamofascist with America Is Doomed Syndrome...AIDS for short...

Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance New Report Shows Saudi Ministry Textbooks Still Teach Extreme Intolerance

Today the Center for Religious Freedom of the Hudson Institute released a 90-page report ( http://www.hudson.org/files/pdf_upload/textbooks_final_for_pdf.pdf), 2008 Update: Saudi Arabia's Curriculum of Intolerance, with a foreword by R. James Woolsey. It was prepared in consultation with the Washington-based Institute for Gulf Affairs.
This report compares the 2007-2008 textbooks that are currently posted on the website of the Saudi Ministry of Education with those analyzed in our 2006 study, and shows that the same violent and intolerant teachings against other religious believers noted in 2006 remain in the current texts.
They assert that unbelievers, such as Christians, Jews, and Muslims who do not share Wahhabi beliefs and practices, are hated "enemies." Global jihad as an "effort to wage war against the unbelievers" is also promoted in the Ministry's textbooks: "In its general usage, 'jihad' is divided into the following categories: ...Wrestling with the infidels by calling them to the faith and battling against them." No argument is made here that such references to jihad mean only spiritual and defensive struggles.
Lessons remain that Jews and Christians are apes and swine, Jews conspire to "gain sole control over the world," the Christian Crusades never ended, the American universities of Cairo and Beirut are part of the continuing Crusades, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are historical fact, and on Judgment Day "the rocks or the trees" will call out to Muslims to kill the Jews.
They teach that it is permissible for a Muslim to kill an "apostate," an "adulterer," and those practicing "major polytheism." Shiites are among those identified as "polytheists." One lesson states that "it is not permissible to violate the blood, property, or honor of the unbeliever who makes a compact with the Muslims," but is pointedly silent on whether security guarantees are extended to non-Muslims without such a compact. Other lessons demonize members of the Baha'i and Ahmadiyya groups.

Pakistan’s Prevailing Political And Economic Mess #4 Posted by mkamd on July 16, 2008 4:07:36 pm


that when in early 1990 Indian Prime Minister was building IIT


The IITs were created in the 1950s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Technology#History

You can't create institutions like that in a short time...

A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations NATO forces attack targets inside Pakistan

* Attack launched in co-ordination with Pakistan military, claims ISAF * NATO is not planning incursions into Pakistan but reserves right to self-defence, says spokesman

KABUL: NATO-led troops in Afghanistan used attack helicopters and artillery to fire into Pakistan after coming under rocket attacks from the Pakistani side of the border, the alliance force said on Wednesday.

The counter-attack on Tuesday was launched from Afghanistan’s Paktika province, which adjoins Pakistan’s North Waziristan Agency.

An International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) base had “received multiple rocket attacks from militants inside Pakistan”, ISAF said in a statement. “The troops identified a qalat (mound) as the point of origin of the attacks and responded in self-defence with a combination of firing from attack helicopters and shooting artillery into Pakistan,” it said.

Nine Afghan soldiers were wounded by the rocket attacks and ISAF responded immediately, an ISAF spokesman said.

Co-ordination: ISAF and the Pakistani army “co-ordinated their operation closely from the outset. The Pakistani military agreed to assist and search the area if the border firing continued,” the statement said.

Claims by Pakistani elders of a troop build-up on the border on Tuesday inflamed tensions, with locals vowing to take up arms to resist any incursion.

Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance #34 Posted by dost_mittar on July 16, 2008 2:44:54 pm

They can call themselves muslim in america...they have adpoted a freeway somewhere in the bay area and have a sign saying adpoted by the ahmadiyya muslim community.

A Journey Interrupted: Being Indian in Pakistan by Farzana Versey Vast majority of Muslim MPs to vote for N-deal

NEW DELHI: Despite Opposition hopes that Muslim MPs might find it difficult to vote for the nuclear deal with an 'anti-Islamic' Bush administration, it is becoming clear that the vast majority of them will be backing the government in the confidence vote.

Of the 37 Muslims who are currently Lok Sabha MPs, 26 are in parties that are part of the UPA or have declared their support for the government in the vote, while 11 are with anti-deal parties like the CPM, BSP, BJP or JD(U).

TOI spoke to most of them on Wednesday and found hardly any who see the issue as having anything to do with the community.

Most, on both sides of the divide, affirm that they will abide by their party's stand, those against the government dubbing the deal harmful to the country's interests and those in favour asserting that it would serve India's objectives.

Interestingly, an avowedly Muslim party like the Muslim League in Kerala is firmly in the pro-government camp and even Asaduddin Owaisi of the All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (AIMIM) seems likely to stick by the UPA, though he said, "MIM will take a decision...on July 19 after consultations with party president Sultan Salahuddin Owaisi."

Also, of the two Kashmir parties, Mehbooba Mufti from the PDP has committed her support to the government, while Omar Abdullah's National Conference too appears to be veering around to throwing its weight behind the deal.

There are some exceptions though. UP has the largest contingent of Muslim MPs with seven in the SP and four in the BSP. SP MP Munnawar Hasan has made it clear that he will vote against the government.

SP MP Munnawar Hasan said: "I will defy the party whip...By extending support to the deal, Mulayam has played with the sentiments of Muslims and his true face has now come to the fore." However, it's no secret that Hasan's differences with the party high command pre-date its hobnobbing with the Congress.

Pakistan’s Prevailing Political And Economic Mess #1 Posted by Leadenwinter on July 16, 2008 6:55:31 am


Religious fundamentalism and thus terrorism are symptoms of poverty and poverty itself being a lack of access to resources


Umm...no they're not..they're the result of fundamentalist indoctrination...saudis involved in 9/11...the brit-pakis who blew up the london subways...nuff said..

Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance
I consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani to
be an imposter nabi and also consider his followers, whether belonging to the Lahori or Qadiani group to be non Muslims.


From the paki passport...

A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations
eventhough they hinted that the Indians were not experienced enough to take over etc.


The paki army uses the same line when it takes over pakiland...but, unlike india, the paki people just lap it up..

A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations it's on...

Plane's violating in Pakistan's airspace will be downed
Wednesday, 16 July 2008 00:00 www.daily.pk
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Pakistan has made it clear to the allied forces in Afghanistan that any plane violating the country’s airspace will be downed.

"Responsible departments of national security have made it clear to the ISAF that they will give a befitting response to any border and air violation in future," a military official said.

He said that it has been made clear to the US military leadership and the Nato commander in Afghanistan that Pakistan will never allow foreign interference on its territory.

"Despite being a key ally our borders are being bombed and our sovereignty being challenged and such incidents would not be tolerated. Such incidents are not only infuriating the security forces but also the Pakistani people," he said. "We have told them that a wave of fright and fear has gripped the people and it is responsibility of all the allies to control terrorism on the Pak-Afghan border," he added. He said that during a recent high level meeting of national security departments a few days back the Nato and Afghan forces commander were told that looming threat of terrorism is not a responsibility of Pakistan, however, joint efforts are required and in the future if Pakistani posts are attacked and bombed, then the Nato forces would be given a "befitting response".

He said that when allied forces fired at Pakistani post in Angor Adda, the Pakistani forces responded promptly as a result of which more than four troops of the allied forces died or were injured.

Meanwhile, condemning border violation and recent attacks by Nato forces in Pakistan, Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (Fazal) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman has underlined that the Nato forces should not interfere in Pakistan’s tribal areas.

Also, the allied troops on Tuesday geared up movement on the Pak-Afghan borders in North and South Waziristan, creating panic among the nearby villages.

Hundreds of allied troops armed with their copters, tanks, mortars and high-tech weapons arrived at the Pak-Afghan borders, while the tribesmen viewing the threatening situation have started shifting from the bordering areas, sources said. "The movement along the bordering areas, including Ghulam Khan, Shawal, Amir Chapsar and Alwara, has been significant. Allied forces warplanes have also been seen hovering over these areas," a security official said.

Following the arrival of the allied troops and hovering aircraft, the tribesmen, fearing a war, started evacuating these bordering areas.

On the other hand, Utmanzai tribe leader, Haji Mohammad Afzal announced in a jirga (tribal assembly) that the attack of the allied forces will be countered.

The deployment of Western coalition forces will add to a mounting sense of foreboding in Pakistan that US ground troops could be ordered into Pakistan on covert missions or hot pursuit to eliminate militants fuelling an insurgency in Afghanistan that appears stronger than ever.

A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations oooh..pakis talking smack..

Pakistan to give befitting response to invaders
Wednesday, 16 July 2008 00:00 www.daily.pk
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Jamaat-e-Islami Secretary General Syed Munawar Hasan has warned that the US is anxiously waiting to attack Pakistan to pursue its nefarious designs.

Addressing a meeting of the office-bearers and Shoora members of the party's Faisalabad chapter here on Monday, he said the rumours aired by the Zionist-controlled media that the Al-Qaeda and Taliban were reorganising in the tribal areas of the country were part of the conspiracy to justify the US attacks in the region. He expressed concerns over the irresponsible attitude of the PPP-led government, especially over the leaders' unnecessary foreign visits while ignoring the situation back in the country. He demanded of the rulers to convene an emergency session of parliament to evolve a strategy for countering serious dangers being faced by the nation.

"Though the US forces stationed in Afghanistan have been making unannounced attacks inside Pakistani border and violating our airspace for quite sometime, killing hundreds of Pakistanis, but during the past few weeks, President Bush and other US officials have increased naked threats of attacking Pakistan," he said, adding that the baseless allegations were being used to justify the possible US attack as they were used before Afghanistan and Iraq attacks.

Munawar said that the Taliban did not attack the World Trade Centre on 9-11 and there was no threat of any attack on the US soil by them because they had no capability to attack the super power of the world.

A Fatal Act-Bad News for India Pakistan Relations Nato build-up gives tribesmen the jitters

Wednesday, July 16, 2008
ISPR says movement not unusual

By Mushtaq Yusufzai

PESHAWAR: After deployment along the Pak-Afghan border across the Kurram Agency, hundreds of Nato troops also took positions across the North Waziristan Agency (NWA) on Tuesday, creating panic among the already terrified tribesmen.

Official and tribal sources told this correspondent from NWA that the Nato troops started arriving near the border areas on Monday night. “Some of them had been brought in choppers and others by armoured personnel carriers. The troops had also shifted heavy arms and ammunition including tanks, heavy machineguns and artillery to the border,” said Haji Yaqub, a resident of border town Ghulam Khan.

The troops had been deployed near the border towns of Ghulam Khan, Saidgai, Shawal and Mir Safar. “They started setting up bunkers very close to the border while gunship helicopters are continuously hovering over the border,” said one Roohullah, a resident of the border town of Saidgai.

He said they had never before seen movement of foreign troops in such large numbers near the border. “For us, it’s just unusual as they are on the zero point,” said Roohullah, adding that so far the troops had not crossed the border.

The sources said the Nato troops dug trenches at Mughalgai near Zhawar camp, a famous training camp of Afghan Mujahideen commander, Maulvi Jalaluddin Haqqani, in Khost near Pakistan’s Saidgai town.

Another bunker was set up at Gurbaz near Tarkhobi area of Khost, close to Pakistan’s Ghulam Khan town. Similarly, the sources said, another trench was set up close to Mir Safar and Shawal towns of NWA.

According to sources, the Nato forces had planned setting up four new military camps along the border in the Taliban-dominated provinces of Afghanistan - Khost and Paktika. “They planned establishing four new military camps along the border and this latest deployment of the foreign troops was first step of their future planning,” said the sources.

Senior government officials said the Nato forces were also misinformed about al-Qaeda training camps at Deegan, Mirali and Miramshah in North Waziristan. The sources said the Nato troops were also informed about the presence of senior Afghan Taliban commanders at the residence of Maulvi Jalaluddin Haqqani at Danday Darpakhel, to condole with him the death of his son, Mohammad Omar Haqqani.

The 18-year-old son of veteran Taliban leader Maulvi Jalaluddin Haqqani was killed in a firefight with the US-led coalition forces in Afghanistan’s Paktia province on Thursday. It merits a mention here that Nato had already deployed a large number of troops close to the border between Afghanistan’s Khost province and Pakistan’s Kurram tribal region.

On the other hand, Pakistani Taliban spokesman Maulvi Omar said Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani’s statement provided an opportunity to the US to deploy its troops near the tribal areas. “When a responsible person like the prime minister has himself said that foreign militants were hiding in Pakistani tribal areas and could cause another 9/11 like disaster then who will stop American forces from invading the country,” Omar asked.

He said the Taliban would welcome the Nato forces if they entered into the tribal areas. (According to Reuters, the Taliban spokesman in Bajaur welcomed the build-up on the border as a chance to kill more Americans. “It’s a gift that they’re coming here on our land and making it easy for us to kill our enemies, the enemies of Muslims,” Maulvi Omar said.

Meanwhile, the US-led Nato forces Tuesday night fired 30 mortar rounds from Afghanistan’s Paktika province on Pakistan’s Angoor Adda. A senior government official based in Wana, regional headquarters of South Waziristan Agency, confirmed the latest shelling on Pakistani territory, but said he had no further details about any loss. He said fearing airstrikers and shelling by the Nato forces on their villages, the residents started leaving their homes for safe and distant towns.

Agencies add: The Army spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said it was probably a routine movement and the media had created “unnecessary hype”. Abbas told a private TV channel that there was no build up of Nato forces close to the Pak-Afghan border.

It was within their side and this was a routine movement for exercise or some operation there, he added. “We closely monitor all such moves so there is none of such thing very close to the border. Certainly we have coordination and communication with each other,” he added.

Abbas said such things were well coordinated and informed before so that no misunderstanding could take place. A spokesman for the Nato-led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan said there was no question of troops entering Pakistan. “Our mandate stops at the border,” spokesman Captain Mike Finney said. There was some “extra activity” on the border with troops searching for surviving insurgents after Sunday’s attack that killed nine US troops, he said.