What Talibanization?
For your next assignment try to find out what "taking something with a grain of salt" means.
After that we'll come around to how the paragraphs and/or sentences are meant to be read and taken as a whole.
For a poet you're pretty hazy on a lot of things that should be second nature to you, unless of course you're a fake, cos then all is explained.
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UroojJanjua
Aug 14, 2008 11:42 am
Re: # 17For your next assignment try to find out what "taking something with a grain of salt" means.
After that we'll come around to how the paragraphs and/or sentences are meant to be read and taken as a whole.
For a poet you're pretty hazy on a lot of things that should be second nature to you, unless of course you're a fake, cos then all is explained.
What Talibanization?
And why, may I ask, is it not sane? Am I missing something here? Or is your command on English too weak to get at the meaning behind the sentence, or ONCE AGAIN, it's the whole "I am woman, hear me roar" tripe?
To break it down for you, here's how it goes, When a man (and here the reference is to a heterosexual man) is approached by a virgin (reference being a very attractive female) and is offered a beer (reference being any kind of sin) normally he is not able to resist it (meaning, he falls for it), however, there is a certain commendable breed, that does not fall into such things no matter what or who the temptation is.
For someone who claims to be a poet, you're pretty thick when it comes to symbolism.
And next time you address my post, have the guts to say so, cos after all , you are woman and we all should hear you roar; I would be the one, standing in the middle of the room, guffawing loudly at your roar.
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UroojJanjua
Aug 14, 2008 11:35 am
Re: # 17And why, may I ask, is it not sane? Am I missing something here? Or is your command on English too weak to get at the meaning behind the sentence, or ONCE AGAIN, it's the whole "I am woman, hear me roar" tripe?
To break it down for you, here's how it goes, When a man (and here the reference is to a heterosexual man) is approached by a virgin (reference being a very attractive female) and is offered a beer (reference being any kind of sin) normally he is not able to resist it (meaning, he falls for it), however, there is a certain commendable breed, that does not fall into such things no matter what or who the temptation is.
For someone who claims to be a poet, you're pretty thick when it comes to symbolism.
And next time you address my post, have the guts to say so, cos after all , you are woman and we all should hear you roar; I would be the one, standing in the middle of the room, guffawing loudly at your roar.
What Talibanization?
I don't see why you have to jump each time you hear the word "woman" and scream bloody murder. The point made by kaptain was quite sane, until you decided to shed some feminist light on it, now it's lost in all the "I am woman, hear me roar" crap..!!
Anyway, coming back to the point, I would say good going kaptain, point taken, albeit with a grain of salt, just like the article written by NFP should be taken.
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UroojJanjua
Aug 14, 2008 09:20 am
Re: # 14I don't see why you have to jump each time you hear the word "woman" and scream bloody murder. The point made by kaptain was quite sane, until you decided to shed some feminist light on it, now it's lost in all the "I am woman, hear me roar" crap..!!
Anyway, coming back to the point, I would say good going kaptain, point taken, albeit with a grain of salt, just like the article written by NFP should be taken.
And then there was The Impeachment Issue…
They will continue to be marginalized if they refuse to admit that they did migrate once, but are here to stay..!! Last I heard, nobody referred to India as their "homeland" from amongst these people.
Everyone who is an immigrant ceases to pass this as a legacy to his child.
I've never heard of those migrating to India from Pakistan referring to themselves as "Mohajir". If it is their homeland, which it IS, then they didn't migrate here, they RETURNED here. But I suppose you're too full of emotional tripe to see where I'm coming from, and will see this as "yet another attempt to marginalise the Mohajirs" (your words not mine).
I would rather see them integrated in the society.
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UroojJanjua
Aug 14, 2008 09:08 am
Re: # 409They will continue to be marginalized if they refuse to admit that they did migrate once, but are here to stay..!! Last I heard, nobody referred to India as their "homeland" from amongst these people.
Everyone who is an immigrant ceases to pass this as a legacy to his child.
I've never heard of those migrating to India from Pakistan referring to themselves as "Mohajir". If it is their homeland, which it IS, then they didn't migrate here, they RETURNED here. But I suppose you're too full of emotional tripe to see where I'm coming from, and will see this as "yet another attempt to marginalise the Mohajirs" (your words not mine).
I would rather see them integrated in the society.
And then there was The Impeachment Issue…
That's where you're wrong, Sindhi, Punjabi, Pukhtoon and Baluchi are NOT redundant terms because they are named after the province they EVEN NOW come from. The term Urdu Speaking, I think is more apt, rather BETTER, than mohajir.
The quota system has got nothing to do with calling these people muhajir, because they aren't that anymore. Those who migrated from East Punjab do NOT call themselves mohajir anymore so what's so special about the migration of the Urdu speaking lot? Or is it, for them, a hereditary title? A title, which, if anything, alienates everyone else around them for reasons self evident.
Call yourself an outsider and demand the same rights as the insiders and I'm afraid you'll get yourself in a pickle..!!
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UroojJanjua
Aug 14, 2008 05:44 am
Re: # 407That's where you're wrong, Sindhi, Punjabi, Pukhtoon and Baluchi are NOT redundant terms because they are named after the province they EVEN NOW come from. The term Urdu Speaking, I think is more apt, rather BETTER, than mohajir.
The quota system has got nothing to do with calling these people muhajir, because they aren't that anymore. Those who migrated from East Punjab do NOT call themselves mohajir anymore so what's so special about the migration of the Urdu speaking lot? Or is it, for them, a hereditary title? A title, which, if anything, alienates everyone else around them for reasons self evident.
Call yourself an outsider and demand the same rights as the insiders and I'm afraid you'll get yourself in a pickle..!!
And then there was The Impeachment Issue…
Isn't the term "Mohajir" a bit old now? I mean now that the people who did "Hijrat" or migrated from India have mostly died, and those who claim to be "Mohajir" have been born, raised, educated and working in Pakistan, this term has become quite redundant and should be thrown out.
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UroojJanjua
Aug 14, 2008 04:11 am
Re: # 398Isn't the term "Mohajir" a bit old now? I mean now that the people who did "Hijrat" or migrated from India have mostly died, and those who claim to be "Mohajir" have been born, raised, educated and working in Pakistan, this term has become quite redundant and should be thrown out.
The Tribal and I
Posted by
UroojJanjua
Aug 14, 2008 03:56 am
Your article is something I would say I totally relate to..!!
And then there was The Impeachment Issue…
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UroojJanjua
Aug 12, 2008 12:46 pm
And why am I not surprised that what you want me to "educate" myself by reading is your own post? It never ceases to amuse me how people can be so unbelievably full of themselves. Anyway, I'm running out of my daily quota of answering presumptuous fools who blow their own trumpet, so toodles..!!
And then there was The Impeachment Issue…
HUH? Seriously? You want me to take you seriously? You have NO idea what my beliefs are, who I follow (or loathe for that matter), what I'm struggling for, and you label me as whatever you deem fit, and then you have the audacity to tell ME to educate myself.
Again... lost irony isn't something new, never has been, never will be.
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UroojJanjua
Aug 12, 2008 12:39 pm
Re: # 295HUH? Seriously? You want me to take you seriously? You have NO idea what my beliefs are, who I follow (or loathe for that matter), what I'm struggling for, and you label me as whatever you deem fit, and then you have the audacity to tell ME to educate myself.
Again... lost irony isn't something new, never has been, never will be.
And then there was The Impeachment Issue…
Who, me? You seriously think that just because I think people starving is more important an issue for us than impeaching Musharraf, I support him. Jumping to conclusions, are we?
The irony of your statement is clearly lost on you, as is much that is said around you. Kudos to you for that.
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UroojJanjua
Aug 12, 2008 11:55 am
Re: # 124Who, me? You seriously think that just because I think people starving is more important an issue for us than impeaching Musharraf, I support him. Jumping to conclusions, are we?
The irony of your statement is clearly lost on you, as is much that is said around you. Kudos to you for that.
And then there was The Impeachment Issue…
Posted by
UroojJanjua
Aug 9, 2008 07:57 pm
Your Article is like a breath of fresh air; finally someone willing to accept that all the "lawyers' movement" has done has distract the nation. The whole "Restoration of the judges will solve all problems" IS BS, and I appreciate the fact that you said it out loud too..!! Kudos to you Shiraz.
Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance
Posted by
UroojJanjua
Aug 9, 2008 07:31 pm
Quite a hornets nest you've put your hand into eh furkan?
Of Medical Students, Passports and Religous Tolerance
hahaha..!! Can't say I disagree..!!
Posted by
UroojJanjua
Aug 9, 2008 07:29 pm
Re: # 421hahaha..!! Can't say I disagree..!!
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